I know there's one or two good field botanists moving among us. Wonder
if anybody knows this plant. Found in this afternoon in Cwm Idwal under
a rock close to a small waterfall, so it's a fairly wet site. The links
are to the same picture but 02 is better quality(much bigger file)

A delightful afternoon away from the garden that I was supposed to be
working in. Well it rained at home but NOT in Cwm Idwal - that's my
excuse anyway ;~}}

Thanks

Rod

Rod wrote:
> I know there's one or two good field botanists moving among us. Wonder
> if anybody knows this plant. Found in this afternoon in Cwm Idwal under
> a rock close to a small waterfall, so it's a fairly wet site. The links
> are to the same picture but 02 is better quality(much bigger file)
>
> A delightful afternoon away from the garden that I was supposed to be
> working in. Well it rained at home but NOT in Cwm Idwal - that's my
> excuse anyway ;~}}
>
> Thanks
>
> Rod
Oops, forgot to paste the links

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/rodsgarden/worrisit01.jpg
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/rodsgarden/worrisit02.jpg

"Rod" <rodcraddock [at] lineone.net> wrote in message
news:1150235175.209096.5990 [at] g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>I know there's one or two good field botanists moving among us. Wonder
> if anybody knows this plant. Found in this afternoon in Cwm Idwal under
> a rock close to a small waterfall, so it's a fairly wet site. The links
> are to the same picture but 02 is better quality(much bigger file)
>
> A delightful afternoon away from the garden that I was supposed to be
> working in. Well it rained at home but NOT in Cwm Idwal - that's my
> excuse anyway ;~}}
>
> Thanks
>
> Rod
>
You swine-I got excited by a potential plant quiz but there is no link. I
suppose the sun in Cwm Idwall had a bad effect on you:-)

Rod <rodcraddock [at] lineone.net> writes
>I know there's one or two good field botanists moving among us. Wonder
>if anybody knows this plant. Found in this afternoon in Cwm Idwal under
>a rock close to a small waterfall, so it's a fairly wet site. The links
>are to the same picture but 02 is better quality(much bigger file)
>
But where's the link???
--
Kay

Rod wrote:
> I know there's one or two good field botanists moving among us. Wonder
> if anybody knows this plant. Found in this afternoon in Cwm Idwal under
> a rock close to a small waterfall, so it's a fairly wet site. The links
> are to the same picture but 02 is better quality(much bigger file)
>
> A delightful afternoon away from the garden that I was supposed to be
> working in. Well it rained at home but NOT in Cwm Idwal - that's my
> excuse anyway ;~}}
>
> Thanks
>
> Rod

It's Mountain Sorrel (and is edible, apparently - acidy-tasting
leaves). Roger Philips' Wild Flowers of Britain has a photo on p 117,
and says:

'A native perennial found in damp, rocky places and streamsides on
mountains. Fairly common in NW Scotland; rare elsewhere though found in
the Lake District, N Wales and W Ireland.'

(Just in case it's helpful, I usually use the key in David Sutton's
Field Guide to the Wild Flowers of Britain and Northern Europe
alongside the index in Roger Philips, which doesn't have a key. I'd
heartily recommend both books.)

--
www.gastronomydomine.com

Squeezeweasel <liz.upton [at] gmail.com> writes
>
>Rod wrote:
>> I know there's one or two good field botanists moving among us. Wonder
>> if anybody knows this plant. Found in this afternoon in Cwm Idwal under
>> a rock close to a small waterfall, so it's a fairly wet site. The links
>> are to the same picture but 02 is better quality(much bigger file)
>>
>> A delightful afternoon away from the garden that I was supposed to be
>> working in. Well it rained at home but NOT in Cwm Idwal - that's my
>> excuse anyway ;~}}
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Rod
>
>It's Mountain Sorrel (and is edible, apparently - acidy-tasting
>leaves). Roger Philips' Wild Flowers of Britain has a photo on p 117,
>and says:
>
>'A native perennial found in damp, rocky places and streamsides on
>mountains. Fairly common in NW Scotland; rare elsewhere though found in
>the Lake District, N Wales and W Ireland.'
>
>(Just in case it's helpful, I usually use the key in David Sutton's
>Field Guide to the Wild Flowers of Britain and Northern Europe
>alongside the index in Roger Philips, which doesn't have a key. I'd
>heartily recommend both books.)
>
I didn't know it under that name!
Wall pennywort, aka navelwort, Umbilicus rupestris, Crassulaceae
http://www.anniesannuals.com/signs/t%20-%20u/umbilicus_rupes tris.htm
--
Kay

"K" <k [at] scarboro.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:xaRLWzX46zjEFwFv [at] scarboro.demon.co.uk...
> Squeezeweasel <liz.upton [at] gmail.com> writes
>>
>>Rod wrote:
>>> I know there's one or two good field botanists moving among us. Wonder
>>> if anybody knows this plant. Found in this afternoon in Cwm Idwal under
>>> a rock close to a small waterfall, so it's a fairly wet site. The links
>>> are to the same picture but 02 is better quality(much bigger file)
>>>
>>> A delightful afternoon away from the garden that I was supposed to be
>>> working in. Well it rained at home but NOT in Cwm Idwal - that's my
>>> excuse anyway ;~}}
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Rod
>>
>>It's Mountain Sorrel (and is edible, apparently - acidy-tasting
>>leaves). Roger Philips' Wild Flowers of Britain has a photo on p 117,
>>and says:
>>
>>'A native perennial found in damp, rocky places and streamsides on
>>mountains. Fairly common in NW Scotland; rare elsewhere though found in
>>the Lake District, N Wales and W Ireland.'
>>
>>(Just in case it's helpful, I usually use the key in David Sutton's
>>Field Guide to the Wild Flowers of Britain and Northern Europe
>>alongside the index in Roger Philips, which doesn't have a key. I'd
>>heartily recommend both books.)
>>
> I didn't know it under that name!
> Wall pennywort, aka navelwort, Umbilicus rupestris, Crassulaceae
> http://www.anniesannuals.com/signs/t%20-%20u/umbilicus_rupes tris.htm
> --
> Kay

You've done better than me -I thought it was some form of Heuchera but the
stems are too thick. The stems also look too thick to be pennywort?

K wrote:
> Squeezeweasel <liz.upton [at] gmail.com> writes
> >
> >Rod wrote:
> >> I know there's one or two good field botanists moving among us. Wonder
> >> if anybody knows this plant. Found in this afternoon in Cwm Idwal under
> >> a rock close to a small waterfall, so it's a fairly wet site. The links
> >> are to the same picture but 02 is better quality(much bigger file)
> >>
> >> A delightful afternoon away from the garden that I was supposed to be
> >> working in. Well it rained at home but NOT in Cwm Idwal - that's my
> >> excuse anyway ;~}}
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Rod
> >
> >It's Mountain Sorrel (and is edible, apparently - acidy-tasting
> >leaves). Roger Philips' Wild Flowers of Britain has a photo on p 117,
> >and says:
> >
> >'A native perennial found in damp, rocky places and streamsides on
> >mountains. Fairly common in NW Scotland; rare elsewhere though found in
> >the Lake District, N Wales and W Ireland.'
> >
> >(Just in case it's helpful, I usually use the key in David Sutton's
> >Field Guide to the Wild Flowers of Britain and Northern Europe
> >alongside the index in Roger Philips, which doesn't have a key. I'd
> >heartily recommend both books.)
> >
> I didn't know it under that name!
> Wall pennywort, aka navelwort, Umbilicus rupestris, Crassulaceae
> http://www.anniesannuals.com/signs/t%20-%20u/umbilicus_rupes tris.htm
> --
> Kay

Don't think it's pennywort - the edges of the leaves aren't crinkled,
the stems are thinner, and the leaves themselves look less thick and
glossy. I suppose a taste-test might help...

--
www.gastronomydomine.com

>
> Don't think it's pennywort - the edges of the leaves aren't crinkled,
> the stems are thinner, and the leaves themselves look less thick and
> glossy. I suppose a taste-test might help...
>
> --
> www.gastronomydomine.com

http://www.coopext.colostate.edu/TRA/PLANTS/index.html#http: //www.colostate.edu/Depts/CoopExt/TRA/PLANTS/demogardens/gra ndmesa/mesaplants.html

There's a picture of mountain sorrel about halfway down this page.

--
www.gastronomydomine

>
> Don't think it's pennywort - the edges of the leaves aren't crinkled,
> the stems are thinner, and the leaves themselves look less thick and
> glossy. I suppose a taste-test might help...
>
> --
> www.gastronomydomine.com

http://www.coopext.colostate.edu/TRA/PLANTS/index.html#http: //www.colostate.edu/Depts/CoopExt/TRA/PLANTS/demogardens/gra ndmesa/mesaplants.html

There's a picture of mountain sorrel about halfway down this page.

--
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Squeezeweasel <liz.upton [at] gmail.com> writes
>
>K wrote:
>> Squeezeweasel <liz.upton [at] gmail.com> writes
>> >
>
>Don't think it's pennywort - the edges of the leaves aren't crinkled,
>the stems are thinner, and the leaves themselves look less thick and
>glossy. I suppose a taste-test might help...
>
OK, I'm convinced! Oxyria digyna (Mountain sorrel) it is!

I've never seen this in the wild - not surprising as it seems to be
confined to Scottish Highlands with a scattering in Lake District,
Snowdonia and bits of W Ireland

Thanks! - you've introduced me to a new flower
--
Kay

On 13 Jun 2006 15:05:34 -0700, "Squeezeweasel" <liz.upton [at] gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>Rod wrote:
>> I know there's one or two good field botanists moving among us. Wonder
>> if anybody knows this plant. Found in this afternoon in Cwm Idwal under
>> a rock close to a small waterfall, so it's a fairly wet site. The links
>> are to the same picture but 02 is better quality(much bigger file)
>>
>> A delightful afternoon away from the garden that I was supposed to be
>> working in. Well it rained at home but NOT in Cwm Idwal - that's my
>> excuse anyway ;~}}
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Rod
>
>It's Mountain Sorrel (and is edible, apparently - acidy-tasting
>leaves). Roger Philips' Wild Flowers of Britain has a photo on p 117,
>and says:
>
>'A native perennial found in damp, rocky places and streamsides on
>mountains. Fairly common in NW Scotland; rare elsewhere though found in
>the Lake District, N Wales and W Ireland.'
>
>(Just in case it's helpful, I usually use the key in David Sutton's
>Field Guide to the Wild Flowers of Britain and Northern Europe
>alongside the index in Roger Philips, which doesn't have a key. I'd
>heartily recommend both books.)

Thanks Liz and Kay,

Yes it's Mountain Sorrel - I allowed myself to be misled by the
leaves, unlike any other Sorrel I know. Should know by now to look at
the flowers ;~) It is a really nice plant but I didn't see any others
nearby. This was the first time I've spent time in Cwm Idwal just
looking at plants etc. Usually passing through nackered at the end of
a long day on the tops.

Rod
Rod

To reply use rodtheweedygardeneratmyweedyisp - just remove the weedy bits and plant the sqiggly thing at.

http://website.lineone.net/~rodcraddock/index.html

Rod wrote:
> On 13 Jun 2006 15:05:34 -0700, "Squeezeweasel" <liz.upton [at] gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Rod wrote:
> >> I know there's one or two good field botanists moving among us. Wonder
> >> if anybody knows this plant. Found in this afternoon in Cwm Idwal under
> >> a rock close to a small waterfall, so it's a fairly wet site. The links
> >> are to the same picture but 02 is better quality(much bigger file)
> >>
> >> A delightful afternoon away from the garden that I was supposed to be
> >> working in. Well it rained at home but NOT in Cwm Idwal - that's my
> >> excuse anyway ;~}}
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Rod
> >
> >It's Mountain Sorrel (and is edible, apparently - acidy-tasting
> >leaves). Roger Philips' Wild Flowers of Britain has a photo on p 117,
> >and says:
> >
> >'A native perennial found in damp, rocky places and streamsides on
> >mountains. Fairly common in NW Scotland; rare elsewhere though found in
> >the Lake District, N Wales and W Ireland.'
> >
> >(Just in case it's helpful, I usually use the key in David Sutton's
> >Field Guide to the Wild Flowers of Britain and Northern Europe
> >alongside the index in Roger Philips, which doesn't have a key. I'd
> >heartily recommend both books.)
>
> Thanks Liz and Kay,
>
> Yes it's Mountain Sorrel - I allowed myself to be misled by the
> leaves, unlike any other Sorrel I know. Should know by now to look at


There are several things that commonly get called sorrel in these here
parts.
You get things with clover like leaves and white or yellow or pink
flowers from Oxalis
that you see wild or as invasive weeds sometimes. Then there are some
docks (Rumex) that have neat acidic tasting leaves a little bit like
the ones on your plant. They have giveaway dock flower heads, again
like your Mountain sorrel. There is also a herb/salad sorrel that
might be different again?

Des


> the flowers ;~) It is a really nice plant but I didn't see any others
> nearby. This was the first time I've spent time in Cwm Idwal just
> looking at plants etc. Usually passing through nackered at the end of
> a long day on the tops.
>
> Rod
> Rod
>
> To reply use rodtheweedygardeneratmyweedyisp - just remove the weedy bits and plant the sqiggly thing at.
>
> http://website.lineone.net/~rodcraddock/index.html

Rupert (W.Yorkshire) wrote:
> You've done better than me

Again!! ;o)