I wondered if any members of the group had any knowledge or experience
of this. What I mean by a homeopathic effect here is one where the
active ingredient is present in such a small dilution as to rule out
any biochemical explanation. If, as claimed, these remedies work
with people and animals, one might expect they should work with
plants.

I've not tried homeopathy for plant diseases, but I did try it for feeding.
I fed some plants with a very, very dilute solution of fertiliser (one ml.
fertlizer to 1000 gallons of water). I saved a lot of money but the plants
died. I suspect the mixture had not been diluted enough.

Good luck

KK


<kencohen [at] blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I wondered if any members of the group had any knowledge or experience
> of this. What I mean by a homeopathic effect here is one where the
> active ingredient is present in such a small dilution as to rule out
> any biochemical explanation. If, as claimed, these remedies work
> with people and animals, one might expect they should work with
> plants.
>

KK wrote:
> I've not tried homeopathy for plant diseases, but I did try it for feeding.
> I fed some plants with a very, very dilute solution of fertiliser (one ml.
> fertlizer to 1000 gallons of water). I saved a lot of money but the plants
> died. I suspect the mixture had not been diluted enough.
>
> Good luck

I heartily recommend the low-cost environmentally-friendly high-potency
homoeopathic weedkiller. If you apply it properly, it does no harm at
all to wildlife or to your treasured plants, and you can get it
straight from the tap.

--
Mike.

I haven't tried out homeopathy and assume it's bunkum, however working
on the premise that everything can be found on google:
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/24194/
I think vodka is the active ingredient here ( and i can't supress a
huge grin ); I also think if you follow his advice you'll come to a
poor end. The fungus will spread to all your crop! This guy assumes
alcohol will kill it all.

There are lots of other articles on google, but i'll try to give you a
saner one that may not do too much harm ( one i read in a paper in
India ): http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3977351.stm
I found that quite funny until Dad pointed out that the sugar might
attract ants on to the leaves and clear out worm larvae, or it is the
Phosphoric acid in the Coke..or perhaps it's the sugar boost.

I'd like to try this and see for myself, with my flowers.

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"Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.john [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> The message <t91t921jd21ba23eo8v41pp8jgfjrb7vpb [at] 4ax.com>
> from Vivek.M <vivekm1234 [at] cyberspace.org> contains these words:
>
>> I haven't tried out homeopathy and assume it's bunkum,
>
>
> I don't know anyone who HAS tried homeopathy ( prescribed by a fully
> qualified medical practioner) who would agree with you.

Homeopathy sounds great and is probably completely and utterly harmless and
very cheap so in general, why not?
In the only controlled study I have seen though,. it did no better than a
placebo but the placebo effect is very strong and powerful.
The fact that the dilutions required to be really effective mean dilution to
less than one molecule of active ingredient per swimming pool of dose make
be cynical as to how really effective it is likely to be but I am an ole
cynic.
Anyone who HAS tried homeopathy is likely to be a bit of an enthuasiast to
begin with.
Compared to most quack snake oil type cures, homeopathy is pretty sensible
but sadly, it does not look liike it works in genuinely controled
experiments. I have met people who have had miracle cures from it but there
are also people out there who have had miracle cures from seventh sons of
seventh sons and other magical nonesense.

>
> http://ghh.info/welcome.htm shows you Glasgow's NHS (state) specialist
> Homeopathic hospital
>
> Janet.

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Janet Baraclough wrote:
> The message <KzDng.10589$j7.314597 [at] news.indigo.ie>
> from "Des Higgins" <dazzhiggins [at] hotmail.com> contains these words:
>
> > Anyone who HAS tried homeopathy is likely to be a bit of an enthuasiast to
> > begin with.
>
> Not at all. IME, cynical disbelief and no expectation of success (by
> both the patient and the referring doctor) is a common way in to
> treatment. I'd never even heard of it before the first time a GP
> suggested it as a last resort; which she did in terms of utmost
> cynicism. A year of various different conventional treatments had all
> failed. So, I had no positive expectations anything else would succeed.
>
> The NHS in Scotland would not have sunk funding into moving the (NHS)
> Glasgow Homeopathic Hospital from its previous, Victorian premises to a
> brand new, purpose built centre, if the service it has provided for
> decades was ineffectual or uneconomic.
>
> http://www.adhom.com/adh_download/evid82.PDF
>
> Janet

I'm a bit divided on that one. In France, where I hail from,
homeopathy is quite well recognised, and moslty practiced by qualified
GPs. Medicines are refundable through the National Health system.
Pharmacies all sell a pretty impressive homeopathic pharmacopea, which
you would not find, as here, in "nature shops" selling brown rice and
evening primrose oil capsules.
As a kid, I too took arnica for cuts and bruises, oscilococcinum as a
flu preventer/cure, and all manner of many other homeopathic medicines.
My entire family makes common use of it. And most of us have to say
it has worked for us.
How exactly it did, I honestly cannot say, because as Des highlighted,
the whole idea is taht you treat with levels of dilution of the active
principle such that there isn't even a molecule left in the tincture
you are consuming. I don't really buy into that idea of "memory of
water", which as a common garden cartesian I find a very far fetched.
But I must agree that it works, it has been found to work for some
complaints in farm animals, and pets. So whether it is the placebo
effect or something else, I am not sure. But in some cases, it does
work. Just perhaps not the way we are led to believe it does.
And it does no harm. My sister used to say her kids could swallow the
entire contents of the family's medicine cabinet, and get away with a
little diaorrhea.

Cat(h)

"Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.john [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> The message <KzDng.10589$j7.314597 [at] news.indigo.ie>
> from "Des Higgins" <dazzhiggins [at] hotmail.com> contains these words:
>
>> Anyone who HAS tried homeopathy is likely to be a bit of an enthuasiast
>> to
>> begin with.
>
> Not at all. IME, cynical disbelief and no expectation of success (by
> both the patient and the referring doctor) is a common way in to
> treatment. I'd never even heard of it before the first time a GP
> suggested it as a last resort; which she did in terms of utmost
> cynicism. A year of various different conventional treatments had all
> failed. So, I had no positive expectations anything else would succeed.
>
> The NHS in Scotland would not have sunk funding into moving the (NHS)
> Glasgow Homeopathic Hospital from its previous, Victorian premises to a
> brand new, purpose built centre, if the service it has provided for
> decades was ineffectual or uneconomic.

All I know is that in the few cases where properly controlled double blind
experiments were carried out, there was no difference between treatment and
placebo. Everyone (including me) knows someone who knows of successful
treatments by it. Sadly though, when tested properly, these effects
disappear. All good clean harmless fun with a daft explanation underlying
it and far preferable to all manner of psychics and crystals etc. but still
usefless by the looks of it.


>
> http://www.adhom.com/adh_download/evid82.PDF
>
> Janet

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