Spouse is desperate to know what this plant is.

http://i5.tinypic.com/167nktv.jpg

It grew in our garden last year as a volunteer, we left it because it had
such an interesting form. this grows right at the edge of a trodden earth
path, next to a concrete block

The flower is tiny, just a few stamens. The leaf stems have a bluish bloom
which doesn't show on the picture. This specimen is about three feet high
(1m).
It seeded last year and there have been several seedlings which we've had to
pull out to plant vegetables.

It would be nice to know.

Mary

p.s. I tried sending this last night, my sent items box says it went but it
didn't appear on my ng screen. If this is a duplicate I apologise.

On 30/6/06 12:48, in article 44a50f78$0$912$4c56ba96 [at] master.news.zetnet.net,
"Mary Fisher" <mary.fisher [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Spouse is desperate to know what this plant is.
>
> http://i5.tinypic.com/167nktv.jpg
>
> It grew in our garden last year as a volunteer, we left it because it had
> such an interesting form. this grows right at the edge of a trodden earth
> path, next to a concrete block
>
> The flower is tiny, just a few stamens. The leaf stems have a bluish bloom
> which doesn't show on the picture. This specimen is about three feet high
> (1m).
> It seeded last year and there have been several seedlings which we've had to
> pull out to plant vegetables.
>
> It would be nice to know.
>
> Mary
>
> p.s. I tried sending this last night, my sent items box says it went but it
> didn't appear on my ng screen. If this is a duplicate I apologise.
>
>
>
It's a wild Euphorbia which, IME, never comes to much. It's the one they
call caper spurge, I think (Euphorbia lathyrus). But don't try pickling
those seeds!

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(email address on website)

"Sacha" <sacha [at] privacy.net> wrote in message
news:C0CAD280.32FA0%sacha [at] privacy.net...
> On 30/6/06 12:48, in article
> 44a50f78$0$912$4c56ba96 [at] master.news.zetnet.net,
> "Mary Fisher" <mary.fisher [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Spouse is desperate to know what this plant is.
>>
>> http://i5.tinypic.com/167nktv.jpg
>>
>> It grew in our garden last year as a volunteer, we left it because it had
>> such an interesting form. this grows right at the edge of a trodden earth
>> path, next to a concrete block
>>
>> The flower is tiny, just a few stamens. The leaf stems have a bluish
>> bloom
>> which doesn't show on the picture. This specimen is about three feet high
>> (1m).
>> It seeded last year and there have been several seedlings which we've had
>> to
>> pull out to plant vegetables.
>>
>> It would be nice to know.
>>
>> Mary
>>
>> p.s. I tried sending this last night, my sent items box says it went but
>> it
>> didn't appear on my ng screen. If this is a duplicate I apologise.
>>
>>
>>
> It's a wild Euphorbia which, IME, never comes to much. It's the one they
> call caper spurge, I think (Euphorbia lathyrus). But don't try pickling
> those seeds!
>
Thank you for that - but we think it's a fascinating plant, he wouldn't have
me pull it out.

I'll tell him, he'll be pleased.

Mary

Mary Fisher <mary.fisher [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:44a51408$0$911$4c56ba96 [at] master.news.zetnet.net...
>
> "Sacha" <sacha [at] privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:C0CAD280.32FA0%sacha [at] privacy.net...
> > On 30/6/06 12:48, in article
> > 44a50f78$0$912$4c56ba96 [at] master.news.zetnet.net,
> > "Mary Fisher" <mary.fisher [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> Spouse is desperate to know what this plant is.
> >>
> >> http://i5.tinypic.com/167nktv.jpg
> >>
> >> It grew in our garden last year as a volunteer, we left it because it
had
> >> such an interesting form. this grows right at the edge of a trodden
earth
> >> path, next to a concrete block
> >>
> >> The flower is tiny, just a few stamens. The leaf stems have a bluish
> >> bloom
> >> which doesn't show on the picture. This specimen is about three feet
high
> >> (1m).
> >> It seeded last year and there have been several seedlings which we've
had
> >> to
> >> pull out to plant vegetables.
> >>
> >> It would be nice to know.
> >>
> >> Mary
> >>
> >> p.s. I tried sending this last night, my sent items box says it went
but
> >> it
> >> didn't appear on my ng screen. If this is a duplicate I apologise.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > It's a wild Euphorbia which, IME, never comes to much. It's the one
they
> > call caper spurge, I think (Euphorbia lathyrus). But don't try pickling
> > those seeds!
> >
> Thank you for that - but we think it's a fascinating plant, he wouldn't
have
> me pull it out.
>
> I'll tell him, he'll be pleased.
>
> Mary
>
>
It can leave a nasty burn on the skin if you get the sap on you and don't
wash it off right away.

"fenwoman" <fenwoman [at] gotadsl.co.uk> wrote in message
news:B9ednVKXcaqZ_jjZRVnyiw [at] pipex.net...
>
>> > It's a wild Euphorbia which, IME, never comes to much. It's the one
> they
>> > call caper spurge, I think (Euphorbia lathyrus). But don't try
>> > pickling
>> > those seeds!
>> >
>> Thank you for that - but we think it's a fascinating plant, he wouldn't
> have
>> me pull it out.
>>
>> I'll tell him, he'll be pleased.
>>
>> Mary
>>
>>
> It can leave a nasty burn on the skin if you get the sap on you and don't
> wash it off right away.

So I understand from various websites - having learned the name.

To date it hasn't had any effect on either of us but we haven't cut it so
haven't been in contact with the sap. It seems pretty tough :-)

Mind you, several plants are reputed to have that effect but don't with us.
The only thing which causes irritation with me (apart from nettles of
course) are tomatoes. I deal with mine every day and have learned to wash my
hands and arms thoroughly immediately afterwards. Spouse reacts very
seriously to propolis but I don't.

We had no intention of trying to eat the seeds. The hens ignore it too.
There must be something instinctive ...

Mary
>
>

Mary Fisher Wrote:
> "Sacha" sacha [at] privacy.net wrote in message
> news:C0CAD280.32FA0%sacha [at] privacy.net...
> On 30/6/06 12:48, in article
> 44a50f78$0$912$4c56ba96 [at] master.news.zetnet.net,
> "Mary Fisher" mary.fisher [at] zetnet.co.uk wrote:
>
> Spouse is desperate to know what this plant is.
>
> http://i5.tinypic.com/167nktv.jpg
>
> It grew in our garden last year as a volunteer, we left it because it
> had
> such an interesting form. this grows right at the edge of a trodden
> earth
> path, next to a concrete block
>
> The flower is tiny, just a few stamens. The leaf stems have a bluish
> bloom
> which doesn't show on the picture. This specimen is about three feet
> high
> (1m).
> It seeded last year and there have been several seedlings which we've
> had
> to
> pull out to plant vegetables.
>
> It would be nice to know.
>
> Mary
>
> p.s. I tried sending this last night, my sent items box says it went
> but
> it
> didn't appear on my ng screen. If this is a duplicate I apologise.
>
>
>
> It's a wild Euphorbia which, IME, never comes to much. It's the one
> they
> call caper spurge, I think (Euphorbia lathyrus). But don't try
> pickling
> those seeds!
>
> Thank you for that - but we think it's a fascinating plant, he wouldn't
> have
> me pull it out.
>
> I'll tell him, he'll be pleased.
>
> Mary
My mother-in-law says if you have spurge growing you won't get moles.
Something I am unable to prove as we don't have any moles.


--
trin

"trin" <trin.2a8e7y [at] gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote in message
news:trin.2a8e7y [at] gardenbanter.co.uk...

> My mother-in-law says if you have spurge growing you won't get moles.
> Something I am unable to prove as we don't have any moles.

I think we should call it elephant spurge!

I'd love to have moles ;-(

Mary
>
>
> --
> trin

"Sacha" <sacha [at] privacy.net> wrote in message
news:C0CAD280.32FA0%sacha [at] privacy.net...
> On 30/6/06 12:48, in article
> 44a50f78$0$912$4c56ba96 [at] master.news.zetnet.net,
> "Mary Fisher" <mary.fisher [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Spouse is desperate to know what this plant is.
>>
>> http://i5.tinypic.com/167nktv.jpg
>>
>> It grew in our garden last year as a volunteer, we left it because it had
>> such an interesting form. this grows right at the edge of a trodden earth
>> path, next to a concrete block
>>
>> The flower is tiny, just a few stamens. The leaf stems have a bluish
>> bloom
>> which doesn't show on the picture. This specimen is about three feet high
>> (1m).
>> It seeded last year and there have been several seedlings which we've had
>> to
>> pull out to plant vegetables.
>>
>> It would be nice to know.
>>
>> Mary
>>
>> p.s. I tried sending this last night, my sent items box says it went but
>> it
>> didn't appear on my ng screen. If this is a duplicate I apologise.
>>
>>
>>
> It's a wild Euphorbia which, IME, never comes to much. It's the one they
> call caper spurge, I think (Euphorbia lathyrus). But don't try pickling
> those seeds!
>
> --
> Sacha
> www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
> South Devon
> (email address on website)
>

Was not this the plant that David Poole mentioned as illustrating the
North/South divide? Up here it's supposed to be biennial and in the south an
annual.
I am surprised you find the thing never comes to much. As the picture shows
it is quite an unusual and strange beast. Did you mean the flowers are
insignificant or is this the one thing we Northerners grow better you:-)

"Mary Fisher" <mary.fisher [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:44a58a38$0$911$4c56ba96 [at] master.news.zetnet.net...
>
> "trin" <trin.2a8e7y [at] gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:trin.2a8e7y [at] gardenbanter.co.uk...
>
>> My mother-in-law says if you have spurge growing you won't get moles.
>> Something I am unable to prove as we don't have any moles.
>
> I think we should call it elephant spurge!
>
> I'd love to have moles ;-(
>
> Mary
>>
>>
>> --
>> trin
>
>
Is that to go with the warts on your nose you old witch:-)
Sorry momentary lapse got you mixed up with The Life and Loves of a
She-Devil. Mary fisher (Pat Hodge) was the pretty one.

> >>
> > It can leave a nasty burn on the skin if you get the sap on you and don't
> > wash it off right away.
>
> So I understand from various websites - having learned the name.
>
> To date it hasn't had any effect on either of us but we haven't cut it so
> haven't been in contact with the sap. It seems pretty tough :-)

Every time I see this plant mentioned I tell peeps to be careful, I
have had two bad reactions to the sap and still have the scars to prove
it

kate

On 30/6/06 21:53, in article 44a58f5f [at] 212.67.96.135, "Rupert (W.Yorkshire)"
<reply [at] newsgroups.com> wrote:

>
> "Sacha" <sacha [at] privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:C0CAD280.32FA0%sacha [at] privacy.net...

<snip>>>>
>> It's a wild Euphorbia which, IME, never comes to much. It's the one they
>> call caper spurge, I think (Euphorbia lathyrus). But don't try pickling
>> those seeds!

>>
>
> Was not this the plant that David Poole mentioned as illustrating the
> North/South divide? Up here it's supposed to be biennial and in the south an
> annual.
> I am surprised you find the thing never comes to much. As the picture shows
> it is quite an unusual and strange beast. Did you mean the flowers are
> insignificant or is this the one thing we Northerners grow better you:-)
>
>
Impossible! ;-) But no, it's not a very exciting Euphorbia, given all the
others we can and do grow! I quite like its greenness but I don't like its
invasiveness. Normally, I welcome plants that seed themselves all over the
place but I did pull a lot of these out earlier this year.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(email address on website)

In message <44a50f78$0$912$4c56ba96 [at] master.news.zetnet.net>, Mary Fisher
<mary.fisher [at] zetnet.co.uk> writes
>
>p.s. I tried sending this last night, my sent items box says it went
>but it didn't appear on my ng screen. If this is a duplicate I
>apologise.
>
It is a duplicate. (I replied to the original.) If one of your messages
doesn't come back to you, one strategy is to visit groups.google.com, or
any other public web interface to UseNet - perhaps GardenBanter has its
uses :-) - and see if it has appeared there.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

Sacha wrote:

>But no, it's not a very exciting Euphorbia, given all the
> others we can and do grow! I quite like its greenness but I don't like its
> invasiveness.

I rather like it, especially in its early phases when it appears as a
40-60 cms. high stem with its leaves arranged in opposite pairs;
criss-cross fashion. In others' gardens mind you, not mine! It loses
the plot once flowering is under way and if you want a few seeding
themselves about, you have to turn a very blind eye as it declines.

When I first came here, such soil as there was consisted of a thin
scrape of dust, lumps of ancient mortar and stones overlying mudstone.
All that grew were Valerian, Caper Spurge and a few clumps of Sedum
dendroideum 'Prealtum' (a shrubby succulent from Mexico that is an
'escaped' pot plant in coastal regions of S. Devon). The spurge
disappeared immediately soil conditions were improved and made more
acidic - unable to compete with more lush and interesting stuff. It
seems to do best where the soil is dry and somewhat alkaline, but is
easily hoed out if you don't want it.

As to its alleged mole-repellant qualities, my experience is that it
simply does not work. My parent's old garden near Stourbridge was
plagued with moles and Caper Spurge was introduced as a last-ditch
attempt before adopting much sterner methods of control. It was a
complete failure and I swear that mole activity was increased close to
where the spurges were planted.

"fenwoman" <fenwoman [at] gotadsl.co.uk> wrote
> It can leave a nasty burn on the skin if you get the sap on you and don't
> wash it off right away.

I don't seem to react to it at, but found this at
http://www.the-tree.org.uk/EnchantedForest/WoodlandFlowers/c aperspurge.htm


As so often Mrs. Grieve has some interesting information for us on this
plant, including The use of Spurge Laurel by beggars to produce sores:
"Has a milky juice of an acrid nature. Its seeds yield an abundance of fine
clear oil called oil of Euphorbia; this is obtained by expression or by the
action of alcohol or ether, and is colourless, inodorous, and almost
insipid; it rapidly becomes rancid, and acquires a dangerous acrimony. The
oil is a very violent poison, producing violent purgation and having an
irritating effect upon the mucous membrane of the intestinal canal, and
especially on the larger intestines; the oil resembles croton oil. In doses
of 5 drops it is said to be less acrid and irritating than croton oil; it
must be recently extracted. The seeds to the number of twelve or fifteen
are used by country people in France as a purgative.
The root of the plant is equally purgative and emetic; the leaves are
vesicant and are used by beggars to produce ulcers by which to excite pity;
the juice is depilatory; the seeds contain aesculin in the free state."

Jenny

On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:48:32 +0000, trin
<trin.2a8e7y [at] gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote:

>My mother-in-law says if you have spurge growing you won't get moles.
>Something I am unable to prove as we don't have any moles.

This has come up before. I was told it would deter moles, and at that
time I had moles on my allotment, and the caper-spurge was self
seeding. The moles just went round it!
Then I heard on GQT that it was as a remedy for moles on the skin
which gave it it's name, "mole plant". It seems logical that it's sap
might have been used this way.
If you disagree, as someone did before, take it up with GQT!
Incidentally, I have no moles on the allotment now, but no
caper-spurge either!

Pam in Bristol

Pam Moore Wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:48:32 +0000, trin
> trin.2a8e7y [at] gardenbanter.co.uk wrote:
>
> My mother-in-law says if you have spurge growing you won't get moles.
> Something I am unable to prove as we don't have any moles.
>
> This has come up before. I was told it would deter moles, and at that
> time I had moles on my allotment, and the caper-spurge was self
> seeding. The moles just went round it!
> Then I heard on GQT that it was as a remedy for moles on the skin
> which gave it it's name, "mole plant". It seems logical that it's sap
> might have been used this way.
> If you disagree, as someone did before, take it up with GQT!
> Incidentally, I have no moles on the allotment now, but no
> caper-spurge either!
>
> Pam in Bristol
I garden in Frenchay, Hello neighbour.
Our neighbours have moles (other side of a road) and MIL offered the
spurge remedy which they tried and it failed dismally. Our new plot has
lots of the stuff growing. We bought the land from them and I think they
must have discarded the old plants there in disgust at the dismal
failure and they are sprouting like mad.
Thank you everyone who has warned about the allergy risk. I'll make
sure I'm careful when I weed them out.


--
trin

"Rupert (W.Yorkshire)" <reply [at] newsgroups.com> wrote in message
news:44a59214 [at] 212.67.96.135...
>
> "Mary Fisher" <mary.fisher [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:44a58a38$0$911$4c56ba96 [at] master.news.zetnet.net...
>>
>> "trin" <trin.2a8e7y [at] gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:trin.2a8e7y [at] gardenbanter.co.uk...
>>
>>> My mother-in-law says if you have spurge growing you won't get moles.
>>> Something I am unable to prove as we don't have any moles.
>>
>> I think we should call it elephant spurge!
>>
>> I'd love to have moles ;-(
>>
>> Mary
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> trin
>>
>>
> Is that to go with the warts on your nose you old witch:-)
> Sorry momentary lapse got you mixed up with The Life and Loves of a
> She-Devil. Mary fisher (Pat Hodge) was the pretty one.

Although we don't have a tv I do know what you're talking about, the lack of
original jokes about the programme and my name became boring after a very
short time. I wouldn't want to look like Patricia Hodge though, 'wet' always
comes to mind when I think of her.

Mary

"Pam Moore" <NOSpam.moore [at] NOSPAMvirgin.net> wrote in message
news:t09ca2dpsm1sf6ujadaauvfp88nacjlct8 [at] 4ax.com...
> On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:48:32 +0000, trin
> <trin.2a8e7y [at] gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>My mother-in-law says if you have spurge growing you won't get moles.
>>Something I am unable to prove as we don't have any moles.
>
> This has come up before. I was told it would deter moles, and at that
> time I had moles on my allotment, and the caper-spurge was self
> seeding. The moles just went round it!
> Then I heard on GQT that it was as a remedy for moles on the skin
> which gave it it's name, "mole plant". It seems logical that it's sap
> might have been used this way.
> If you disagree, as someone did before, take it up with GQT!
> Incidentally, I have no moles on the allotment now, but no
> caper-spurge either!

Perhaps warts were meant, rather than moles? Several plant saps have been
used to 'cure' warts.

Mary
>
> Pam in Bristol

"Kate Morgan" <katemorgan [at] btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1f0fafe2a753e232989737 [at] news.plus.net...
>
>> >>
>> > It can leave a nasty burn on the skin if you get the sap on you and
>> > don't
>> > wash it off right away.
>>
>> So I understand from various websites - having learned the name.
>>
>> To date it hasn't had any effect on either of us but we haven't cut it so
>> haven't been in contact with the sap. It seems pretty tough :-)
>
> Every time I see this plant mentioned I tell peeps to be careful, I
> have had two bad reactions to the sap and still have the scars to prove
> it

We spent the weekend in Scotland, during High Midge Season. I have bumps
everywhere. Scotald is a beautiful place, the people are lovely, the
standard of life is high (in my opinion0 but I couldn't live there and be
permanently scarred :-(

Mary
>
> kate

"JennyC" <Jenny.squirrel [at] chello.nl> wrote in message
news:4gmg6eF1jmctcU1 [at] individual.net...
>
> "fenwoman" <fenwoman [at] gotadsl.co.uk> wrote
>> It can leave a nasty burn on the skin if you get the sap on you and don't
>> wash it off right away.
>
> I don't seem to react to it at, but found this at
> http://www.the-tree.org.uk/EnchantedForest/WoodlandFlowers/c aperspurge.htm
>
>
> As so often Mrs. Grieve has some interesting information for us on this
> plant, including The use of Spurge Laurel by beggars to produce sores:
> "Has a milky juice of an acrid nature. Its seeds yield an abundance of
> fine clear oil called oil of Euphorbia; this is obtained by expression or
> by the action of alcohol or ether, and is colourless, inodorous, and
> almost insipid; it rapidly becomes rancid, and acquires a dangerous
> acrimony. The oil is a very violent poison, producing violent purgation
> and having an irritating effect upon the mucous membrane of the intestinal
> canal, and especially on the larger intestines; the oil resembles croton
> oil. In doses of 5 drops it is said to be less acrid and irritating than
> croton oil; it must be recently extracted. The seeds to the number of
> twelve or fifteen are used by country people in France as a purgative.
> The root of the plant is equally purgative and emetic; the leaves are
> vesicant and are used by beggars to produce ulcers by which to excite
> pity; the juice is depilatory; the seeds contain aesculin in the free
> state."

That's fascinating! Thank you,

Mary
>
> Jenny
>

"DavePoole Torquay" <daverpoole [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1151719556.508943.164780 [at] d56g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> Sacha wrote:
>

>
> I rather like it, especially in its early phases when it appears as a
> 40-60 cms. high stem with its leaves arranged in opposite pairs;
> criss-cross fashion.

Yes, it's amazing!
>
> When I first came here, such soil as there was consisted of a thin
> scrape of dust, lumps of ancient mortar and stones overlying mudstone.
> All that grew were Valerian, Caper Spurge and a few clumps of Sedum
> dendroideum 'Prealtum' (a shrubby succulent from Mexico that is an
> 'escaped' pot plant in coastal regions of S. Devon). The spurge
> disappeared immediately soil conditions were improved and made more
> acidic - unable to compete with more lush and interesting stuff. It
> seems to do best where the soil is dry and somewhat alkaline, but is
> easily hoed out if you don't want it.

Hmm. I noticed a seedling in my (new) asparagus bed, I wonder if that means
I should 'improve' the bed? My aim to live for the next four years is so
that I can eat my own asparagus!
>
Mary

Mary Fisher <mary.fisher [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
> We spent the weekend in Scotland, during High Midge Season. I have
> bumps everywhere. Scotald is a beautiful place, the people are
> lovely, the standard of life is high (in my opinion0 but I couldn't
> live there and be permanently scarred :-(
>

Too late now but Avon Skin So Soft can work miracles. Midges really don't
like it.

Either that or lots of garlic - but that can put of things other than
midges.

--
NK
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On 3/7/06 09:58, in article 4gs4ieF1ndjeaU1 [at] individual.net, "WRabbit"
<thewrabbit [at] replaceinvalidwithcomgmail.invalid> wrote:

> Mary Fisher <mary.fisher [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>> We spent the weekend in Scotland, during High Midge Season. I have
>> bumps everywhere. Scotald is a beautiful place, the people are
>> lovely, the standard of life is high (in my opinion0 but I couldn't
>> live there and be permanently scarred :-(
>>
>
> Too late now but Avon Skin So Soft can work miracles. Midges really don't
> like it.

That stuff is brilliant. But the best I've ever used was bought in Turkey
and was just called "Off"! I don't think I've ever seen it in this country
but it might be sold under another name, I suppose.
>
> Either that or lots of garlic - but that can put of things other than
> midges.
Many vampires in Scotland?
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(email address on website)

"Mary Fisher" <mary.fisher [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:44a8d8e8$0$912$4c56ba96 [at] master.news.zetnet.net...
>
> "DavePoole Torquay" <daverpoole [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1151719556.508943.164780 [at] d56g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>> Sacha wrote:
>>
>
>>
>> I rather like it, especially in its early phases when it appears as a
>> 40-60 cms. high stem with its leaves arranged in opposite pairs;
>> criss-cross fashion.
>
> Yes, it's amazing!
>>
>> When I first came here, such soil as there was consisted of a thin
>> scrape of dust, lumps of ancient mortar and stones overlying mudstone.
>> All that grew were Valerian, Caper Spurge and a few clumps of Sedum
>> dendroideum 'Prealtum' (a shrubby succulent from Mexico that is an
>> 'escaped' pot plant in coastal regions of S. Devon). The spurge
>> disappeared immediately soil conditions were improved and made more
>> acidic - unable to compete with more lush and interesting stuff. It
>> seems to do best where the soil is dry and somewhat alkaline, but is
>> easily hoed out if you don't want it.
>
> Hmm. I noticed a seedling in my (new) asparagus bed, I wonder if that
> means I should 'improve' the bed? My aim to live for the next four years
> is so that I can eat my own asparagus!
>>
> Mary
"The Weed" does not say no to a nice moist, rich well drained soil.
I have got approx 4 years to track down the exact location of the beds owned
by MF Leeds West Yorkshire. Roll on Google Earth v10:-)

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> Mary Fisher <mary.fisher [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>> We spent the weekend in Scotland, during High Midge Season. I have
>> bumps everywhere. Scotland is a beautiful place, the people are
>> lovely, the standard of life is high (in my opinion0 but I couldn't
>> live there and be permanently scarred :-(
>>
>
> Too late now but Avon Skin So Soft can work miracles. Midges really don't
> like it.

We bought some repellant but only after we'd been bitten :-)
>
> Either that or lots of garlic - but that can put of things other than
> midges.

Oh we eat masses of garlic anyway. It's necessary to ward off vampires.

Mary
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>>>
>>
>> Hmm. I noticed a seedling in my (new) asparagus bed, I wonder if that
>> means I should 'improve' the bed? My aim to live for the next four years
>> is so that I can eat my own asparagus!
>>>
>> Mary
> "The Weed" does not say no to a nice moist, rich well drained soil.
> I have got approx 4 years to track down the exact location of the beds
> owned by MF Leeds West Yorkshire. Roll on Google Earth v10:-)

There's no secret!

Mail me if you're really interested and there's only one small asparagus bed
which is overplanted.

I exaggerated anyway, it should only be three years. It was four years when
I sowed seeds in 2005. My self-discipline isn't good, I wouldn't be
surprised if I couldn't resist cutting just one stalk in 2007. Two if you're
here. Three including Spouse.

<sigh>

Mary
>
>

mary.fisher [at] zetnet.co.uk said...
> Several plant saps have been
> used to 'cure' warts.
>
Do any of them work? My husband's been advised (don't know by whom) to
put dandelion sap on his wart. Whether or not he has, I know not.

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> mary.fisher [at] zetnet.co.uk said...
>> Several plant saps have been
>> used to 'cure' warts.
>>
> Do any of them work?

Over many years all sorts of charms have been successful it seems, medics
don't know why they work but they seem to. It could be coincidence of
course, warts do often go away by themselves.

> My husband's been advised (don't know by whom) to
> put dandelion sap on his wart. Whether or not he has, I know not.

Has it gone?

:-)

I don't know why warts are a problem, unless they grow differently of course
when they need attention.

I had one once on my arm, it's not there now. A grandson had a huge one on a
finger, it's not there now.

<shrug>

Mary

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> mary.fisher [at] zetnet.co.uk said...
>> Several plant saps have been
>> used to 'cure' warts.
>>
> Do any of them work? My husband's been advised (don't know by whom) to
> put dandelion sap on his wart. Whether or not he has, I know not.
>
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Yep many do work particularly Senna pods.
I think the dandelion sap is slightly alkaline--so it will burn a bit.
Alternatively you could try oven cleaner.

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>> mary.fisher [at] zetnet.co.uk said...
>>> Several plant saps have been
>>> used to 'cure' warts.
>>>
>> Do any of them work? My husband's been advised (don't know by whom) to
>> put dandelion sap on his wart. Whether or not he has, I know not.
>>
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>
> Yep many do work particularly Senna pods.
> I think the dandelion sap is slightly alkaline--so it will burn a bit.
> Alternatively you could try oven cleaner.
>
>
My father outlaw used the rolled up, rubbed on, leaves or bark of the elder.
He was the most unlikely wart charmer you could begin to imagine. But a
groom at his grandfather's home had charmed Pa outlaw's wart when Pa was a
lad and then told him that he would always be able to do the same for
others. And indeed, he could. I don't think he ever had a failure.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(email address on website)

mary.fisher [at] zetnet.co.uk said...
>
> "Sena" <arjfatcymoeddorguk [at] privacy.net> wrote in message
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> > mary.fisher [at] zetnet.co.uk said...
> >> Several plant saps have been
> >> used to 'cure' warts.
> >>
> > Do any of them work?
>
> Over many years all sorts of charms have been successful it seems, medics
> don't know why they work but they seem to. It could be coincidence of
> course, warts do often go away by themselves.
>
> > My husband's been advised (don't know by whom) to
> > put dandelion sap on his wart. Whether or not he has, I know not.
>
> Has it gone?
>
> :-)

No, because he only very rarely remembers to pick a dandelion.

> I don't know why warts are a problem, unless they grow differently of course
> when they need attention.

This one's on the side of his thumb. He had it cut out (ouch) and it
regrew. He had it frozen (ouch again) and it thumbed its nose at the
doctor doing the freezing and said something akin to 'nyeah nyeah nah
nyear nyear'. It's not that it's a problem so much that it catches on
things and then it can start to bleed or crack - which makes it uneven
on top so it catches on things and then it can start to bleed or crack -
which makes it uneven on top so...

> I had one once on my arm, it's not there now. A grandson had a huge one on a
> finger, it's not there now.

They do seem to do their own thing, regardless, don't they.
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> mary.fisher [at] zetnet.co.uk said...
>>
>>
>> > My husband's been advised (don't know by whom) to
>> > put dandelion sap on his wart. Whether or not he has, I know not.
>>
>> Has it gone?
>>
>> :-)
>
> No, because he only very rarely remembers to pick a dandelion.

LOL!

I put a dead frog in the bin yesterday, I should have given it to him.
That's one of the charms, allegedly ...
>
>> I don't know why warts are a problem, unless they grow differently of
>> course
>> when they need attention.
>
> This one's on the side of his thumb. He had it cut out (ouch) and it
> regrew. He had it frozen (ouch again) and it thumbed its nose at the
> doctor doing the freezing and said something akin to 'nyeah nyeah nah
> nyear nyear'.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

> It's not that it's a problem so much that it catches on
> things and then it can start to bleed or crack - which makes it uneven
> on top so it catches on things and then it can start to bleed or crack -
> which makes it uneven on top so...

I get the picture :-(
>
>> I had one once on my arm, it's not there now. A grandson had a huge one
>> on a
>> finger, it's not there now.
>
> They do seem to do their own thing, regardless, don't they.

Indeed.

Thanks for replying, it's cheered up the morning. Now to the garden before
it gets twot.

Mary

mary.fisher [at] zetnet.co.uk said...
> Thanks for replying, it's cheered up the morning. Now to the garden before
> it gets twot.
>
Salready twot. And I'm beau nidle. Which is why my privet out the back
is far taller and bushier than is good for either it or me. But it
keeps the heat out of the kitchen, so it's not all bad. I hate privet,
but I want something to put in its place and I don't know what, so the
privet stays. Every year I go out and attack it with bolt shears -
except that last year I didn't and this year I haven't. It's gone from
a couple of feet high to well over 6' in places now, dammit.
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> mary.fisher [at] zetnet.co.uk said...
>> Thanks for replying, it's cheered up the morning. Now to the garden
>> before
>> it gets twot.
>>
> Salready twot. And I'm beau nidle. Which is why my privet out the back
> is far taller and bushier than is good for either it or me. But it
> keeps the heat out of the kitchen, so it's not all bad. I hate privet,
> but I want something to put in its place and I don't know what, so the
> privet stays. Every year I go out and attack it with bolt shears -
> except that last year I didn't and this year I haven't. It's gone from
> a couple of feet high to well over 6' in places now, dammit.

That'll larn yer!

I'm not keen on privet either, we just took it all out years ago. There are
some great hedging shrubs but I can't think of any which don't need
attention :-(

There's always box of course but it will take some years before it shades
your kitchen.

As for the heat, apparently we're going to have storms, some heavy, tomorrow
:-)

Mary
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I can't understand that ...