Plant ID if possible

Earlier this year I sowed a packet of wildflower seeds from Mr Fothergill's.
The seed packet was marked Ox-Eye Daisy (leucanthemum vulgare). I had
originally intended to separate out the seed tray into clumps and plant the
clumps, but when they grew I had a trayful of two obviously different plants.
I have (with difficulty) separated them into pots of a few of a kind to a
pot, but I just don't know what the two varieties are.

I have posted a picture of each here and wonder if anyone can reassure me
that Image 1 is in fact a form of ox-eye daisy, because the leaves aren't
like the ones we already have, and can tell me what the second plant is?

<http://www.sallysweb.co.uk/plants.html>

(I haven't included the groundsel and grass, which were obvious and which I
removed early on!)




--
Sally in Shropshire, UK
bed and breakfast near Ludlow: http://www.stonybrook-ludlow.co.uk
Burne-Jones/William Morris window in Shropshire church:
http://www.whitton-stmarys.org.uk
me2 [ Fr, 07 Juli 2006 21:36 ] [ ID #138236 ]

Re: Plant ID if possible

In message <0001HW.C0D4764C0054DCA7F0407530 [at] news.individual.net>, Sally
Thompson <me2 [at] privacy.net> writes
>Earlier this year I sowed a packet of wildflower seeds from Mr Fothergill's.
>The seed packet was marked Ox-Eye Daisy (leucanthemum vulgare). I had
>originally intended to separate out the seed tray into clumps and plant the
>clumps, but when they grew I had a trayful of two obviously different plants.
> I have (with difficulty) separated them into pots of a few of a kind to a
>pot, but I just don't know what the two varieties are.
>
>I have posted a picture of each here and wonder if anyone can reassure me
>that Image 1 is in fact a form of ox-eye daisy, because the leaves aren't
>like the ones we already have, and can tell me what the second plant is?

I'd guess that the second is Yarrow (Achillea millefolium), but I can't
be sure that it's not one of the Mayweeds.
>
><http://www.sallysweb.co.uk/plants.html>
>
>(I haven't included the groundsel and grass, which were obvious and which I
>removed early on!)
>

--
Stewart Robert Hinsley
Stewart Robert Hinsle [ Fr, 07 Juli 2006 22:09 ] [ ID #138241 ]

Re: Plant ID if possible

In article <ac+hfmYj9rrEFwhy [at] meden.invalid>,
Stewart Robert Hinsley <{$news$} [at] meden.demon.co.uk> writes:
|>
|> I'd guess that the second is Yarrow (Achillea millefolium), but I can't
|> be sure that it's not one of the Mayweeds.

Not to say a zillion less likely escapes. It looks dead like yarrow
to me, too, and that is a very common weed. It is apparently essential
for doing the I Ching properly, so some people grow it deliberately.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
nmm1 [ Fr, 07 Juli 2006 22:20 ] [ ID #138243 ]

Re: Plant ID if possible

Nick Maclaren <nmm1 [at] cus.cam.ac.uk> writes
>
>In article <ac+hfmYj9rrEFwhy [at] meden.invalid>,
>Stewart Robert Hinsley <{$news$} [at] meden.demon.co.uk> writes:
>|>
>|> I'd guess that the second is Yarrow (Achillea millefolium), but I can't
>|> be sure that it's not one of the Mayweeds.
>
>Not to say a zillion less likely escapes. It looks dead like yarrow
>to me, too, and that is a very common weed. It is apparently essential
>for doing the I Ching properly, so some people grow it deliberately.
>
Looks to me exactly like a thing that came up in Chiltern's 'rock
plants' mixture and which i assumed was yarrow but then produced a white
daisy flower - ie a mayweed type thingy. Leaves don't look quite as
'fluffy' as yarrow, but then yarrow doesn't look quite as fluffy when
it's that age.
--
Kay
K [ Fr, 07 Juli 2006 23:09 ] [ ID #138250 ]

Re: Plant ID if possible

On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 21:09:07 +0100, Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote
(in article <ac+hfmYj9rrEFwhy [at] meden.invalid>):

> In message <0001HW.C0D4764C0054DCA7F0407530 [at] news.individual.net>, Sally
> Thompson <me2 [at] privacy.net> writes
>> Earlier this year I sowed a packet of wildflower seeds from Mr Fothergill's.
>> The seed packet was marked Ox-Eye Daisy (leucanthemum vulgare). I had
>> originally intended to separate out the seed tray into clumps and plant the
>> clumps, but when they grew I had a trayful of two obviously different
>> plants.
>> I have (with difficulty) separated them into pots of a few of a kind to a
>> pot, but I just don't know what the two varieties are.
>>
>> I have posted a picture of each here and wonder if anyone can reassure me
>> that Image 1 is in fact a form of ox-eye daisy, because the leaves aren't
>> like the ones we already have, and can tell me what the second plant is?
>
> I'd guess that the second is Yarrow (Achillea millefolium), but I can't
> be sure that it's not one of the Mayweeds.
>>
>> <http://www.sallysweb.co.uk/plants.html>



You are right, it does look exactly like Yarrow when I look at Google Images,
but since the seeds were meant to be "native grown", I suppose it is more
likely that someone has taken seeds from a Mayweed with a daisy-like flower
than a Yarrow with a very different flower - unless of course they also sell
Yarrow seeds, and have just mixed them up. I cannot find either on their web
site (nor the ox-eye daisy for that matter).




--
Sally in Shropshire, UK
bed and breakfast near Ludlow: http://www.stonybrook-ludlow.co.uk
Burne-Jones/William Morris window in Shropshire church:
http://www.whitton-stmarys.org.uk
me2 [ Fr, 07 Juli 2006 23:34 ] [ ID #138254 ]

Re: Plant ID if possible

On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 21:20:25 +0100, Nick Maclaren wrote
(in article <e8mfm9$7kt$1 [at] gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk>):

>
> In article <ac+hfmYj9rrEFwhy [at] meden.invalid>,
> Stewart Robert Hinsley <{$news$} [at] meden.demon.co.uk> writes:
>>>
>>> I'd guess that the second is Yarrow (Achillea millefolium), but I can't
>>> be sure that it's not one of the Mayweeds.
>
> Not to say a zillion less likely escapes. It looks dead like yarrow
> to me, too, and that is a very common weed. It is apparently essential
> for doing the I Ching properly, so some people grow it deliberately.


Thanks for the reply - and see my response to Stewart Robert Hinsley. I'd
far rather have Yarrow than Mayweed (even without the I Ching <g>), but I
think we will continue to grow these two plants on separately and see what we
end up with - and I think I will tell Mr Fothergill's just so they know
(although it's only a packet of seed) because someone has been a bit
careless.




--
Sally in Shropshire, UK
bed and breakfast near Ludlow: http://www.stonybrook-ludlow.co.uk
Burne-Jones/William Morris window in Shropshire church:
http://www.whitton-stmarys.org.uk
me2 [ Fr, 07 Juli 2006 23:38 ] [ ID #138256 ]

Re: Plant ID if possible

In message <0001HW.C0D4920F0058AFA5F0407530 [at] news.individual.net>, Sally
Thompson <me2 [at] privacy.net> writes
>On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 21:09:07 +0100, Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote
>(in article <ac+hfmYj9rrEFwhy [at] meden.invalid>):
>
>> In message <0001HW.C0D4764C0054DCA7F0407530 [at] news.individual.net>, Sally
>> Thompson <me2 [at] privacy.net> writes
>>> Earlier this year I sowed a packet of wildflower seeds from Mr Fothergill's.
>>> The seed packet was marked Ox-Eye Daisy (leucanthemum vulgare). I had
>>> originally intended to separate out the seed tray into clumps and plant the
>>> clumps, but when they grew I had a trayful of two obviously different
>>> plants.
>>> I have (with difficulty) separated them into pots of a few of a kind to a
>>> pot, but I just don't know what the two varieties are.
>>>
>>> I have posted a picture of each here and wonder if anyone can reassure me
>>> that Image 1 is in fact a form of ox-eye daisy, because the leaves aren't
>>> like the ones we already have, and can tell me what the second plant is?
>>
>> I'd guess that the second is Yarrow (Achillea millefolium), but I can't
>> be sure that it's not one of the Mayweeds.
>>>
>>> <http://www.sallysweb.co.uk/plants.html>
>
>
>
>You are right, it does look exactly like Yarrow when I look at Google Images,
>but since the seeds were meant to be "native grown", I suppose it is more
>likely that someone has taken seeds from a Mayweed with a daisy-like flower
>than a Yarrow with a very different flower - unless of course they also sell
>Yarrow seeds, and have just mixed them up. I cannot find either on their web
>site (nor the ox-eye daisy for that matter).
>
Yarrow is native, and is also cultivated (typically the coloured
selections). In my experience it is commoner in the wild than the
mayweeds, but maybe I don't frequent the right habitats.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley
Stewart Robert Hinsle [ Fr, 07 Juli 2006 23:53 ] [ ID #138269 ]

Re: Plant ID if possible

Sally Thompson <me2 [at] privacy.net> writes
>On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 21:20:25 +0100, Nick Maclaren wrote
>(in article <e8mfm9$7kt$1 [at] gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk>):
>
>>
>> In article <ac+hfmYj9rrEFwhy [at] meden.invalid>,
>> Stewart Robert Hinsley <{$news$} [at] meden.demon.co.uk> writes:
>>>>
>>>> I'd guess that the second is Yarrow (Achillea millefolium), but I can't
>>>> be sure that it's not one of the Mayweeds.
>>
>> Not to say a zillion less likely escapes. It looks dead like yarrow
>> to me, too, and that is a very common weed. It is apparently essential
>> for doing the I Ching properly, so some people grow it deliberately.
>
>
>Thanks for the reply - and see my response to Stewart Robert Hinsley. I'd
>far rather have Yarrow than Mayweed (even without the I Ching <g>), but I
>think we will continue to grow these two plants on separately and see what we
>end up with - and I think I will tell Mr Fothergill's just so they know
>(although it's only a packet of seed) because someone has been a bit
>careless.
>
Both ox-eye daisy and yarrow are favourite slug fodder when young and
tender.
>
>
>

--
Kay
K [ Sa, 08 Juli 2006 10:16 ] [ ID #138310 ]

Re: Plant ID if possible

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