At last I got my own back on those blasted pigeons that eat my veg.
Spent a few days away at a "posh" hotel, one of the starters was pigeon
breast, I could not refuse. :-)

"Broadback" <wen [at] towill.plus.com> wrote in message
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> At last I got my own back on those blasted pigeons that eat my veg. Spent
> a few days away at a "posh" hotel, one of the starters was pigeon breast,
> I could not refuse. :-)

We eat a lot of pigeon (it's very cheap meat) - but not (as yet) the ones in
our garden.

When Spouse has his air rifle ...

Mary

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"The Invalid" <the_invalid [at] hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 20:15:37 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
> <mary.fisher [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Broadback" <wen [at] towill.plus.com> wrote in message
>>news:4hi6diF1rh43dU3 [at] individual.net...
>>> At last I got my own back on those blasted pigeons that eat my veg.
>>> Spent
>>> a few days away at a "posh" hotel, one of the starters was pigeon
>>> breast,
>>> I could not refuse. :-)
>>
>>We eat a lot of pigeon (it's very cheap meat) - but not (as yet) the ones
>>in
>>our garden.
>>
>>When Spouse has his air rifle ...
>>
>>Mary
>>
> I bought a Chinese Cheapie for 30 quid, it certainly drops pigeons
> well

I don't know where to buy one.

We don't shop much so don't know what's where ;-)

Mary
>

Mary Fisher wrote:
> "The Invalid" <the_invalid [at] hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:mk79b29nsrts67uqdt49f082mtlkr5v9t2 [at] 4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 20:15:37 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
> > <mary.fisher [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
[...]
> >>When Spouse has his air rifle ...
> >>
> >>Mary
> >>
> > I bought a Chinese Cheapie for 30 quid, it certainly drops pigeons
> > well
>
> I don't know where to buy one.
>
> We don't shop much so don't know what's where ;-)

I know it's a long shot, but you could maybe try a gun shop.

--
Mike.

"Mike Lyle" <mike_lyle_uk [at] yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> Mary Fisher wrote:
>> "The Invalid" <the_invalid [at] hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:mk79b29nsrts67uqdt49f082mtlkr5v9t2 [at] 4ax.com...
>> > On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 20:15:37 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
>> > <mary.fisher [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
> [...]
>> >>When Spouse has his air rifle ...
>> >>
>> >>Mary
>> >>
>> > I bought a Chinese Cheapie for 30 quid, it certainly drops pigeons
>> > well
>>
>> I don't know where to buy one.
>>
>> We don't shop much so don't know what's where ;-)
>
> I know it's a long shot, but you could maybe try a gun shop.

I'm sure you're right. I don't think I've seen one of those in thirty years
though.

I obviously don't get out enough ;-)

Mary
>
> --
> Mike.
>

"Mary Fisher" <mary.fisher [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike Lyle" <mike_lyle_uk [at] yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1152704065.011668.134740 [at] h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Mary Fisher wrote:
>>> "The Invalid" <the_invalid [at] hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:mk79b29nsrts67uqdt49f082mtlkr5v9t2 [at] 4ax.com...
>>> > On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 20:15:37 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
>>> > <mary.fisher [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>> [...]
>>> >>When Spouse has his air rifle ...
>>> >>
>>> >>Mary
>>> >>
>>> > I bought a Chinese Cheapie for 30 quid, it certainly drops pigeons
>>> > well
>>>
>>> I don't know where to buy one.
>>>
>>> We don't shop much so don't know what's where ;-)
>>
>> I know it's a long shot, but you could maybe try a gun shop.
>
> I'm sure you're right. I don't think I've seen one of those in thirty
> years though.
>
> I obviously don't get out enough ;-)

Trouble is, they are not that obvious in the average High Street!

I don't thnk there are any close to me either.

Alan

>
> Mary
>>
>> --
>> Mike.
>>
>
>

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"Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.john [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> The message <Qq7tg.19217$IU2.11587 [at] newsfe2-win.ntli.net>
> from "Alan Holmes" <alan.holmes [at] virgin.net> contains these words:
>
>
>> "Mary Fisher" <mary.fisher [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:44b4e03f$0$909$4c56ba96 [at] master.news.zetnet.net...
>> >
>> > "Mike Lyle" <mike_lyle_uk [at] yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> > news:1152704065.011668.134740 [at] h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> >>
>> >> Mary Fisher wrote:
>
>> >>> I don't know where to buy one.
>> >>>
>> >>> We don't shop much so don't know what's where ;-)
>> >>
>> >> I know it's a long shot, but you could maybe try a gun shop.
>> >
>> > I'm sure you're right. I don't think I've seen one of those in thirty
>> > years though.
>> >
>> > I obviously don't get out enough ;-)
>
>> Trouble is, they are not that obvious in the average High Street!
>
>> I don't thnk there are any close to me either.
>
> Yes there are.
>
> I know it's a long shot, but since both you and Mary have a computer
> you could maybe try a google search on "gun dealers in Windsor/Leeds".
>
> Janet.
>
> --
> Isle of Arran Open Gardens weekend 21,22,23 July 2006
> 5 UKP three-day adult ticket (funds go to island charities) buys entry
> to 26 private gardens

missed the post ---- what was it you were trying to find

"Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.john [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> The message <Qq7tg.19217$IU2.11587 [at] newsfe2-win.ntli.net>
> from "Alan Holmes" <alan.holmes [at] virgin.net> contains these words:
>
>
>> "Mary Fisher" <mary.fisher [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:44b4e03f$0$909$4c56ba96 [at] master.news.zetnet.net...
>> >
>> > "Mike Lyle" <mike_lyle_uk [at] yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> > news:1152704065.011668.134740 [at] h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> >>
>> >> Mary Fisher wrote:
>
>> >>> I don't know where to buy one.
>> >>>
>> >>> We don't shop much so don't know what's where ;-)
>> >>
>> >> I know it's a long shot, but you could maybe try a gun shop.
>> >
>> > I'm sure you're right. I don't think I've seen one of those in thirty
>> > years though.
>> >
>> > I obviously don't get out enough ;-)
>
>> Trouble is, they are not that obvious in the average High Street!
>
>> I don't thnk there are any close to me either.
>
> Yes there are.
>
> I know it's a long shot, but since both you and Mary have a computer
> you could maybe try a google search on "gun dealers in Windsor/Leeds".

Done that, got nowhere.

Well, I didn't include Windsor ...

Mary
>
> Janet.
>
> --
> Isle of Arran Open Gardens weekend 21,22,23 July 2006
> 5 UKP three-day adult ticket (funds go to island charities) buys entry
> to 26 private gardens

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Are the pigeons in urban gardens just as edible as those in the
butchers or could there be a problem with the amount of lice etc on
them, and their diet of waste?

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"Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.john [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> The message <44b55962$0$908$4c56ba96 [at] master.news.zetnet.net>
> from "Mary Fisher" <mary.fisher [at] zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
>
>
>> "Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.john [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:313030303930323944B54BC617 [at] zetnet.co.uk...
>
>> > I know it's a long shot, but since both you and Mary have a computer
>> > you could maybe try a google search on "gun dealers in Windsor/Leeds".
>
>> Done that, got nowhere.
>
> That's funny, on my screen google produced four gun dealers for Leeds.

They're not really Leeds though, just in the general area. The one which
used to be in Leeds closed some time ago.

Mary

"John" <john.hancock5 [at] blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> Are the pigeons in urban gardens just as edible as those in the
> butchers or could there be a problem with the amount of lice etc on
> them, and their diet of waste?

The pigeons in my garden are wood pigeons, the same as the ones I buy from
the game dealer. They don't feed on 'waste', they feed on my vegetables and
chicken grain. As for lice, I imagine that all untreated birds have them,
including those sold for meat. The lice aren't on the meat after all :-)

Mary
>

"Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.john [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> The message <1152779917.205668.204550 [at] h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
> from "John" <john.hancock5 [at] blueyonder.co.uk> contains these words:
>
>
>> Are the pigeons in urban gardens just as edible as those in the
>> butchers or could there be a problem with the amount of lice etc on
>> them, and their diet of waste?
>
> Don't be such a wuss.
>
> If you eat salmon, beef, poultry, game or lamb, you are already
> eating creatures that have had lice, gut parasites etc, and you haven't
> died yet; though the chemical treatments UK produce got for those
> parasites might not do you much good. If you are lucky enough to eat
> home-grown free-range poultry or their eggs, that wonderful flavour
> comes partly from the scraps, or household waste, they eat, and the
> animal manures they pick through. If you eat wild sea fish like
> inshore mackerel you'd better not ask what they feed on that makes them
> so tasty...
>
> If you eat cheap supermarket "bargain price" poultry or pork raised
> butchered and imported from barely-regulated farms in east Europe or the
> far east then you could be risking far more than anything that afflicts
> an urban UK pigeon

Hurrah!

Mary

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"Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.john [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> The message <44b61c5f$0$910$4c56ba96 [at] master.news.zetnet.net>
> from "Mary Fisher" <mary.fisher [at] zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
>
>
>> "Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.john [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:313030303930323944B58B3297 [at] zetnet.co.uk...
>> > The message <44b55962$0$908$4c56ba96 [at] master.news.zetnet.net>
>> > from "Mary Fisher" <mary.fisher [at] zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
>> >
>> >
>> >> "Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.john [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
>> >> news:313030303930323944B54BC617 [at] zetnet.co.uk...
>> >
>> >> > I know it's a long shot, but since both you and Mary have a computer
>> >> > you could maybe try a google search on "gun dealers in
>> >> > Windsor/Leeds".
>> >
>> >> Done that, got nowhere.
>> >
>> > That's funny, on my screen google produced four gun dealers for Leeds.
>
>> They're not really Leeds though, just in the general area. The one which
>> used to be in Leeds closed some time ago.
>
> I don't know if you live in Leeds, or just the general area. Even
> squirrels can travel those distances on foot though :-)
>
> Janet.
>
> --
> Isle of Arran Open Gardens weekend 21,22,23 July 2006
> 5 UKP three-day adult ticket (funds go to island charities) buys entry
> to 26 private gardens

what exactly do you require from a gunsmith's shop, i go to france every
month and you would be amazed what their gunsmith's sell without batting an
eyelid, but here the same items would either not be legal or locked away and
only sold if you had a permit of some sort.

"Alan" <alan.luker [at] virgin.net> wrote in message
news:B3vtg.1346$sz1.1215 [at] newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>
>
> what exactly do you require from a gunsmith's shop, i go to france every
> month and you would be amazed what their gunsmith's sell without batting
> an eyelid, but here the same items would either not be legal or locked
> away and only sold if you had a permit of some sort.

We don't want that kind of weapon, we don't break laws.

He's going to ask people he knows.

Mary


>
>

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"Mary Fisher" <mary.fisher [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.john [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:313030303930323944B54BC617 [at] zetnet.co.uk...
>> The message <Qq7tg.19217$IU2.11587 [at] newsfe2-win.ntli.net>
>> from "Alan Holmes" <alan.holmes [at] virgin.net> contains these words:
>>
>>
>>> "Mary Fisher" <mary.fisher [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:44b4e03f$0$909$4c56ba96 [at] master.news.zetnet.net...
>>> >
>>> > "Mike Lyle" <mike_lyle_uk [at] yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> > news:1152704065.011668.134740 [at] h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>>> >>
>>> >> Mary Fisher wrote:
>>
>>> >>> I don't know where to buy one.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> We don't shop much so don't know what's where ;-)
>>> >>
>>> >> I know it's a long shot, but you could maybe try a gun shop.
>>> >
>>> > I'm sure you're right. I don't think I've seen one of those in thirty
>>> > years though.
>>> >
>>> > I obviously don't get out enough ;-)
>>
>>> Trouble is, they are not that obvious in the average High Street!
>>
>>> I don't thnk there are any close to me either.
>>
>> Yes there are.
>>
>> I know it's a long shot, but since both you and Mary have a computer
>> you could maybe try a google search on "gun dealers in Windsor/Leeds".
>
> Done that, got nowhere.
>
> Well, I didn't include Windsor ...

We all make mistakes!

Alan

>
> Mary
>>
>> Janet.
>>
>> --
>> Isle of Arran Open Gardens weekend 21,22,23 July 2006
>> 5 UKP three-day adult ticket (funds go to island charities) buys entry
>> to 26 private gardens
>
>

Yes - but you've got to pluck the pigeons and cut them up yourself.

Janet Baraclough wrote:
> The message <1152779917.205668.204550 [at] h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
> from "John" <john.hancock5 [at] blueyonder.co.uk> contains these words:
>
>
> > Are the pigeons in urban gardens just as edible as those in the
> > butchers or could there be a problem with the amount of lice etc on
> > them, and their diet of waste?
>
> Don't be such a wuss.
>
> If you eat salmon, beef, poultry, game or lamb, you are already
> eating creatures that have had lice, gut parasites etc, and you haven't
> died yet; though the chemical treatments UK produce got for those
> parasites might not do you much good. If you are lucky enough to eat
> home-grown free-range poultry or their eggs, that wonderful flavour
> comes partly from the scraps, or household waste, they eat, and the
> animal manures they pick through. If you eat wild sea fish like
> inshore mackerel you'd better not ask what they feed on that makes them
> so tasty...
>
> If you eat cheap supermarket "bargain price" poultry or pork raised
> butchered and imported from barely-regulated farms in east Europe or the
> far east then you could be risking far more than anything that afflicts
> an urban UK pigeon
>
> Janet.
>
> --
> Isle of Arran Open Gardens weekend 21,22,23 July 2006
> 5 UKP three-day adult ticket (funds go to island charities) buys entry
> to 26 private gardens

"John" <john.hancock5 [at] blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1152967575.948729.108790 [at] 75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Yes - but you've got to pluck the pigeons and cut them up yourself.

It's far easier and only takes a couple of minutes to skin them. Plucking's
for the birds.

I've skinned and gutted very many pigeons and never had lice or any other
problems from doing so.

Mary


>
> Janet Baraclough wrote:
>> The message <1152779917.205668.204550 [at] h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
>> from "John" <john.hancock5 [at] blueyonder.co.uk> contains these words:
>>
>>
>> > Are the pigeons in urban gardens just as edible as those in the
>> > butchers or could there be a problem with the amount of lice etc on
>> > them, and their diet of waste?
>>
>> Don't be such a wuss.
>>
>> If you eat salmon, beef, poultry, game or lamb, you are already
>> eating creatures that have had lice, gut parasites etc, and you haven't
>> died yet; though the chemical treatments UK produce got for those
>> parasites might not do you much good. If you are lucky enough to eat
>> home-grown free-range poultry or their eggs, that wonderful flavour
>> comes partly from the scraps, or household waste, they eat, and the
>> animal manures they pick through. If you eat wild sea fish like
>> inshore mackerel you'd better not ask what they feed on that makes them
>> so tasty...
>>
>> If you eat cheap supermarket "bargain price" poultry or pork raised
>> butchered and imported from barely-regulated farms in east Europe or the
>> far east then you could be risking far more than anything that afflicts
>> an urban UK pigeon
>>
>> Janet.
>>
>> --
>> Isle of Arran Open Gardens weekend 21,22,23 July 2006
>> 5 UKP three-day adult ticket (funds go to island charities) buys entry
>> to 26 private gardens
>