I am currently shopping around for a zero turn mower with approx. a 44
inch deck size...and I'm getting more confused/overwhelmed as I go
along. I started looking at the low end toro and cub cadets but was
really impressed with the build quality of a Hustler fastrack I saw at
an area dealer. Through web research I've noticed some of the
"commercial" z-turn manufactures also have units designed more for
residential use (ie. mini-fastrack, exmark lazer/ct, gravely [at] home
ZT's).

I'm really leaning towards these "commercial" dealers but I was curious
if anyone can offer any advice as to how their residential products
stack up in comparision to the pro equipment or against each other. I
wish the dealer I saw stocked the mini-fastrack just to be able to make
a comparison myself.

Thanks in advance for what ever information you can provide.

Randy

Dixie Chopper came out with a residential model this year that is great.
It is using the same drive unit as the commercial but a smaller deck
which is made out of stainless steel. no mo rust


From Mel & Donnie in Bluebird Valley

the scag,dixiechopper,grasshopper and woods are what is used by
comercial guys around here. i work on them and i think they are heavier
built and last longer than the homeowner class by cub and toro and
others.the gravely are made by areins and are a real pain. for a
homeowner with less than 5 acres they should last 15-20 years.and then
can be repaired.. kohler and kawasaki are the best engine to get.i would
also reccomend getting the most comfy seat available. lucas

yotaman wrote:

> I am currently shopping around for a zero turn mower with approx. a 44
> inch deck size...and I'm getting more confused/overwhelmed as I go
> along. I started looking at the low end toro and cub cadets but was
> really impressed with the build quality of a Hustler fastrack I saw at
> an area dealer. Through web research I've noticed some of the
> "commercial" z-turn manufactures also have units designed more for
> residential use (ie. mini-fastrack, exmark lazer/ct, gravely [at] home
> ZT's).
>
> I'm really leaning towards these "commercial" dealers but I was curious
> if anyone can offer any advice as to how their residential products
> stack up in comparision to the pro equipment or against each other. I
> wish the dealer I saw stocked the mini-fastrack just to be able to make
> a comparison myself.
>
> Thanks in advance for what ever information you can provide.
>
> Randy
>
I've got an 04 Snapper 50 inch. It is great. This years models are
manufactured by someone else and suck. Briggs owns Snapper, Simplicity
and a bucnh of others. Under any one brand name you will now find mowers
made by any number of other manufacturers to meet the brand's price
point for that nich in the market especially for Residental rated
mowers. Residental rated mowers just ain't up to snuff.
You'll have to get a 50 inch deck to get the commercial John Deere
manufactured by Deere to get the quality you want.
Expect to pay about 6,400.00 to 7,200.00 unless thing have changed.
Things to look for are grease fittings for the spindles on top forof
deck fore easier servicing, a handle on the deck to unload the deck
drive belt for easy replacement, wide and big tires to help prevent turf
damage on tight turns( these things weight a ton),the heavier the deck
the better for long life, and a flush attachment on the deck for
attaching a hose to clean out build up which breads rust, a really great
sitting and suspended seat ( which you will appreciate if you have a
large area to mow), good ground speed of at least 10 mph at full tilt,
and responsive but not finiky levers, and pto gas and other controls up
high away from detris etc, and gauges for gas, or if you have the money
diesel. Dixie Chopper makes one entirely out of stainless but I haven't
been able to look at one up close or find a dealer. It may be the best
thing since slice bread.

Tightwad Wrote:
> yotaman wrote:
> -
> I am currently shopping around for a zero turn mower with approx. a
> 44
> inch deck size...and I'm getting more confused/overwhelmed as I go
> along. I started looking at the low end toro and cub cadets but was
> really impressed with the build quality of a Hustler fastrack I saw
> at
> an area dealer. Through web research I've noticed some of the
> "commercial" z-turn manufactures also have units designed more for
> residential use (ie. mini-fastrack, exmark lazer/ct, gravely [at] home
> ZT's).
>
> I'm really leaning towards these "commercial" dealers but I was
> curious
> if anyone can offer any advice as to how their residential products
> stack up in comparision to the pro equipment or against each other.
> I
> wish the dealer I saw stocked the mini-fastrack just to be able to
> make
> a comparison myself.
>
> Thanks in advance for what ever information you can provide.
>
> Randy
> -
> I've got an 04 Snapper 50 inch. It is great. This years models are
> manufactured by someone else and suck. Briggs owns Snapper, Simplicity
> and a bucnh of others. Under any one brand name you will now find
> mowers
> made by any number of other manufacturers to meet the brand's price
> point for that nich in the market especially for Residental rated
> mowers. Residental rated mowers just ain't up to snuff.
> You'll have to get a 50 inch deck to get the commercial John Deere
> manufactured by Deere to get the quality you want.
> Expect to pay about 6,400.00 to 7,200.00 unless thing have changed.
> Things to look for are grease fittings for the spindles on top forof
> deck fore easier servicing, a handle on the deck to unload the deck
> drive belt for easy replacement, wide and big tires to help prevent
> turf
> damage on tight turns( these things weight a ton),the heavier the deck
> the better for long life, and a flush attachment on the deck for
> attaching a hose to clean out build up which breads rust, a really
> great
> sitting and suspended seat ( which you will appreciate if you have a
> large area to mow), good ground speed of at least 10 mph at full tilt,
> and responsive but not finiky levers, and pto gas and other controls
> up
> high away from detris etc, and gauges for gas, or if you have the
> money
> diesel. Dixie Chopper makes one entirely out of stainless but I
> haven't
> been able to look at one up close or find a dealer. It may be the best
> thing since slice bread.


Here is a link where you can check out the new Dixie Chopper line.
The Silver Eagle 44" starts around $ 6000.00 and has the same
Commerical grade hydro. system.
http://tinyurl.com/88xhl
Good Luck Shopping.


--
restrorob

Thanks for everyone's input. I've never even considered Dixie Chopper
but I think I may have to take a look. There is one dealer in the area
I found on their web site...I live in Canada and most of these
commercial dealers are kind of few and far between...but atleast they
are around.

I've never used any of those clean out ports on the deck for the garden
hose before. How long must you run the deck with the water on to be
effective?? I assume you must also clean it after each use before the
build up dries on...which may be a challenge... :-). To tell you the
truth my old mower, an Allis Chalmers (aka Simplicity) 919 with 19hp
Kohler which is probably near 25 years old (not really sure but I've
owned it the last 15) has still got the original deck and it seems
pretty solid despite it's infrequent cleanings. The motor just ain't
what she used to be however and it recently has developed a major oil
leak at the back under the fly wheel. (I assume the crankshaft seal
but can't be sure). Anyhow I figure her time has come ... she sure
doesn't owe me anything at this point.

Randy

yotaman wrote:

> Thanks for everyone's input. I've never even considered Dixie Chopper
> but I think I may have to take a look. There is one dealer in the area
> I found on their web site...I live in Canada and most of these
> commercial dealers are kind of few and far between...but atleast they
> are around.
>
> I've never used any of those clean out ports on the deck for the garden
> hose before. How long must you run the deck with the water on to be
> effective?? I assume you must also clean it after each use before the
> build up dries on...which may be a challenge... :-). To tell you the
> truth my old mower, an Allis Chalmers (aka Simplicity) 919 with 19hp
> Kohler which is probably near 25 years old (not really sure but I've
> owned it the last 15) has still got the original deck and it seems
> pretty solid despite it's infrequent cleanings. The motor just ain't
> what she used to be however and it recently has developed a major oil
> leak at the back under the fly wheel. (I assume the crankshaft seal
> but can't be sure). Anyhow I figure her time has come ... she sure
> doesn't owe me anything at this point.
>
> Randy
>
I don't know how long it takes to clean underneath the deck. I missed
the cue and it wasn't on my Snapper.
If all you need to do is replace the engine on old faithful do it and
save a ton of money.
If everything is a little worn get the latest and greatest. You'll never
be happy with an also ran.
I though the Dixie Chopper was the one made of stainless but looking at
the previous poster's link I couldn't determine they made one.

Tightwad Wrote:
> yotaman wrote:
> -
> Thanks for everyone's input. I've never even considered Dixie
> Chopper
> but I think I may have to take a look. There is one dealer in the
> area
> I found on their web site...I live in Canada and most of these
> commercial dealers are kind of few and far between...but atleast they
> are around.
>
> I've never used any of those clean out ports on the deck for the
> garden
> hose before. How long must you run the deck with the water on to be
> effective?? I assume you must also clean it after each use before
> the
> build up dries on...which may be a challenge... :-). To tell you the
> truth my old mower, an Allis Chalmers (aka Simplicity) 919 with 19hp
> Kohler which is probably near 25 years old (not really sure but I've
> owned it the last 15) has still got the original deck and it seems
> pretty solid despite it's infrequent cleanings. The motor just ain't
> what she used to be however and it recently has developed a major oil
> leak at the back under the fly wheel. (I assume the crankshaft seal
> but can't be sure). Anyhow I figure her time has come ... she sure
> doesn't owe me anything at this point.
>
> Randy
> -
> I don't know how long it takes to clean underneath the deck. I missed
> the cue and it wasn't on my Snapper.
> If all you need to do is replace the engine on old faithful do it and
> save a ton of money.
> If everything is a little worn get the latest and greatest. You'll
> never
> be happy with an also ran.
> I though the Dixie Chopper was the one made of stainless but looking
> at
> the previous poster's link I couldn't determine they made one.

Yes in deed, All commercial and some homeowner models do have the
stainless lifetime warranty body, There are a couple homeowner units
that are just painted steel.


--
restrorob

Well that option has been considered...the engine can also likely be
repaired. Which I may do and try and sell it privately. I've been
offered $500 on a trade in for a $5800 Hustler Fastrack 44"/ 18hp
kohler. I've got to try and determine what I could realistically get
for that machine in good running order. One big reason the new mower
is being considered is my wife never really liked operating old
faithful... ;-) ... but she seems to like the ZT's. (although she may
be thinking I can get out and get the job done quicker so that she
doesn't have to even consider mowing!!!)

I haven't had a chance to check out the Dixie Chopper yet but I did
have a chance to go the International Plowing Match today and I checked
out Walker, Grasshopper, Simplicity, Husquvarna & Ferris. Most were a
lot more money for anything comparable, and if not there were things
re: controls, quality or warranty which I didn't like. There also was
another Hustler dealer there who offered better prices than the guy I
talked to as well...I could get a 52"/20hp kohler for $5700, the 44"/18
was 5500.