Does anybody happen to know what the official name is for a phal that
is described as Duki X Ho's Fancy Leopard?
Thanks
Vic

Malibu Leopard

K Barrett

<vicsage [at] yahoo.canada> wrote in message
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> Does anybody happen to know what the official name is for a phal that
> is described as Duki X Ho's Fancy Leopard?
> Thanks
> Vic

Dtps. Malibu Leopard that is, sorry I forgot the Genus, *G*

K

"K Barrett" <mormodes [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Malibu Leopard
>
> K Barrett
>
> <vicsage [at] yahoo.canada> wrote in message
> news:4324e867.7987399 [at] news.primus.ca...
> > Does anybody happen to know what the official name is for a phal that
> > is described as Duki X Ho's Fancy Leopard?
> > Thanks
> > Vic
>
>

On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:36:56 -0700, "K Barrett" <mormodes [at] hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Dtps. Malibu Leopard that is, sorry I forgot the Genus, *G*
>
>K
>
>"K Barrett" <mormodes [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:6tydnQe7tsSRdLneRVn-qQ [at] comcast.com...
>> Malibu Leopard
>>
>> K Barrett
>>
Thanks,

I know this is a beginner question, but what does the Dtps. signify?
And do you happen to have a description of the plant?
--Vic

On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 05:38:42 GMT, vicsage [at] yahoo.canada wrote:

>On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:36:56 -0700, "K Barrett" <mormodes [at] hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Dtps. Malibu Leopard that is, sorry I forgot the Genus, *G*
>>
>>K
>>
>>"K Barrett" <mormodes [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:6tydnQe7tsSRdLneRVn-qQ [at] comcast.com...
>>> Malibu Leopard
>>>
>>> K Barrett
>>>
>Thanks,
>
>I know this is a beginner question, but what does the Dtps. signify?
>And do you happen to have a description of the plant?
>--Vic

I shouldn't be so helpless. I found a photo, but the first question
stands.
http://groups.msn.com/BHGFriendlyGardeners/suesorchids.msnw? action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=4337
--Vic

> >>>
> >Thanks,
> >
> >I know this is a beginner question, but what does the Dtps. signify?
> >And do you happen to have a description of the plant?
> >--Vic
>
> I shouldn't be so helpless. I found a photo, but the first question
> stands.
> http://groups.msn.com/BHGFriendlyGardeners/suesorchids.msnw? action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=4337
> --Vic


Dtps. stands for Doritaenopsis, that is a cross between Doritis and
Phalaenopsis.

greetings from Poland
Martha

On 12 Sep 2005 00:31:05 -0700, "Martha" <cass [at] poczta.onet.pl>
wrote:

>
>> >>>
>> >Thanks,
>> >
>> >I know this is a beginner question, but what does the Dtps. signify?
>> >And do you happen to have a description of the plant?
>> >--Vic
>>
>> I shouldn't be so helpless. I found a photo, but the first question
>> stands.
>> http://groups.msn.com/BHGFriendlyGardeners/suesorchids.msnw? action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=4337
>> --Vic
Nine flowers on one inflorescence; flowers pure white centrally
peppered with medium fuchsia dots on all segments; lip white,
edged in deep gold and yellow on upper edge of midlobe and lower
edges of side lobes, callus bright yellow dotted with fuchsia;
substance firm; texture glistening.

This is the award description for the Dtps Malibu Leopard 'Zuma
Canyon' HCC/AOS. The cross was registered in 1996. The
natural spread is 9.9 with a vertical of 8.1,
SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php

"Susan Erickson" <SuE [at] evilsoft.org> wrote in message
news:5qvai156pgcnm732gri71mtei9hivokf65 [at] 4ax.com...
> On 12 Sep 2005 00:31:05 -0700, "Martha" <cass [at] poczta.onet.pl>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >> >>>
> >> >Thanks,
> >> >
> >> >I know this is a beginner question, but what does the Dtps. signify?
> >> >And do you happen to have a description of the plant?
> >> >--Vic
> >>
> >> I shouldn't be so helpless. I found a photo, but the first question
> >> stands.
> >>
http://groups.msn.com/BHGFriendlyGardeners/suesorchids.msnw? action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=4337
> >> --Vic
> Nine flowers on one inflorescence; flowers pure white centrally
> peppered with medium fuchsia dots on all segments; lip white,
> edged in deep gold and yellow on upper edge of midlobe and lower
> edges of side lobes, callus bright yellow dotted with fuchsia;
> substance firm; texture glistening.
>
> This is the award description for the Dtps Malibu Leopard 'Zuma
> Canyon' HCC/AOS. The cross was registered in 1996. The
> natural spread is 9.9 with a vertical of 8.1,
> SuE
> http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php

Makes you wonder about the veracity of the ID in the photo, since the
description says the lip is white and yellow yet the photo shows a red
lip.....

K Barrett

On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 07:58:41 -0700, "K Barrett" <mormodes [at] hotmail.com>
wrote:

>"Susan Erickson" <SuE [at] evilsoft.org> wrote in message
>news:5qvai156pgcnm732gri71mtei9hivokf65 [at] 4ax.com...
>> On 12 Sep 2005 00:31:05 -0700, "Martha" <cass [at] poczta.onet.pl>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >> >>>
>> >> >Thanks,
>> >> >
>> >> >I know this is a beginner question, but what does the Dtps. signify?
>> >> >And do you happen to have a description of the plant?
>> >> >--Vic
>> >>
>> >> I shouldn't be so helpless. I found a photo, but the first question
>> >> stands.
>> >>
> http://groups.msn.com/BHGFriendlyGardeners/suesorchids.msnw? action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=4337
>> >> --Vic
>> Nine flowers on one inflorescence; flowers pure white centrally
>> peppered with medium fuchsia dots on all segments; lip white,
>> edged in deep gold and yellow on upper edge of midlobe and lower
>> edges of side lobes, callus bright yellow dotted with fuchsia;
>> substance firm; texture glistening.
>>
>> This is the award description for the Dtps Malibu Leopard 'Zuma
>> Canyon' HCC/AOS. The cross was registered in 1996. The
>> natural spread is 9.9 with a vertical of 8.1,
>> SuE
>> http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php
>
>Makes you wonder about the veracity of the ID in the photo, since the
>description says the lip is white and yellow yet the photo shows a red
>lip.....
>
>K Barrett
>
>
I guess it's back to the drawing board for me then. I thought I had
come close to figuring out what my phal was. I saw one in the store
that looked very, very similar. I think it even came from the same
grower. The tag on the store plant just gave the parent cross and not
the name.

Mine is similar to the picture, but with more yellow in the centre and
a less fuschia spotting on the white segments. The lip is definitely
fuschia although the tips tend to fade to white as the blooms age.
--Vic

On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 07:19:14 -0600, Susan Erickson <SuE [at] evilsoft.org>
wrote:

>On 12 Sep 2005 00:31:05 -0700, "Martha" <cass [at] poczta.onet.pl>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>> >>>
>>> >Thanks,
>>> >
>>> >I know this is a beginner question, but what does the Dtps. signify?
>>> >And do you happen to have a description of the plant?
>>> >--Vic
>>>
>>> I shouldn't be so helpless. I found a photo, but the first question
>>> stands.
>>> http://groups.msn.com/BHGFriendlyGardeners/suesorchids.msnw? action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=4337
>>> --Vic
>Nine flowers on one inflorescence; flowers pure white centrally
>peppered with medium fuchsia dots on all segments; lip white,
>edged in deep gold and yellow on upper edge of midlobe and lower
>edges of side lobes, callus bright yellow dotted with fuchsia;
>substance firm; texture glistening.
>
>This is the award description for the Dtps Malibu Leopard 'Zuma
>Canyon' HCC/AOS. The cross was registered in 1996. The
>natural spread is 9.9 with a vertical of 8.1,
>SuE
>http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php


SuE

I just took a look at the Doritaenopsis pictured on your site, and I'm
more and more convinced that my phal is in fact a Doritaenopsis of
some sort.

Is it common for a Doritaenopsis to be sold as a "straight"
Phal? Am I supposed to treat it any differently than I would if it was
just a Phal? I ask the question, knowing I don't plant on changing
the care I give it. I just like to know which rules I'm breaking. <g>
--Vic

On 12 Sep 2005 00:31:05 -0700, "Martha" <cass [at] poczta.onet.pl> wrote:

>
>> >>>
>> >Thanks,
>> >
>> >I know this is a beginner question, but what does the Dtps. signify?
>> >And do you happen to have a description of the plant?
>> >--Vic
>>
>> I shouldn't be so helpless. I found a photo, but the first question
>> stands.
>> http://groups.msn.com/BHGFriendlyGardeners/suesorchids.msnw? action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=4337
>> --Vic
>
>
>Dtps. stands for Doritaenopsis, that is a cross between Doritis and
>Phalaenopsis.
>
>greetings from Poland
>Martha
>
Thanks for the answer Martha.

vicsage [at] yahoo.canada wrote:

>
> SuE
>
> I just took a look at the Doritaenopsis pictured on your site, and I'm
> more and more convinced that my phal is in fact a Doritaenopsis of
> some sort.
>
> Is it common for a Doritaenopsis to be sold as a "straight"
> Phal? Am I supposed to treat it any differently than I would if it was
> just a Phal? I ask the question, knowing I don't plant on changing
> the care I give it. I just like to know which rules I'm breaking. <g>
> --Vic

Vic,

You are very unlikely to be able to tell if it is Dtps or Phal just by
looking at it. It is possible if it is a first or (sometimes) second
generation hybrid. But, for reasons that don't always entirely make
sense, the doritis that makes a plant a Doritaenopsis could have been
its great,great,great,great...who knows how many greats, grandparent.
Once you put Doritis into the ancestry, it stays.

This leads to the vast majority of Dtps looking just like any other
phalaenopsis. They are equivalent. Frankly, they are so equivalent
that it is really a false distinction. That applies to culture, as
well. There is no meaningful distinction between the culture of the two.

Don't try to identify your no name phal from pictures. It is impossible
to ever know for sure, in almost all cases. And it doesn't matter,
anyway. Just treat it like a phal, enjoy it for its pretty flowers, and
try to keep yourself from buying too many more orchids. Addiction is
dangerous... *grin*


Rob

--
Rob's Rules: http://littlefrogfarm.com
1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a) See rule 1
3) When one has insufficient credit to obtain more
orchids, obtain more credit

On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:09:48 -0400, Rob <rob [at] littlefrogfarm.com>
wrote:

>vicsage [at] yahoo.canada wrote:
>
>>
>> SuE
>>
>> I just took a look at the Doritaenopsis pictured on your site, and I'm
>> more and more convinced that my phal is in fact a Doritaenopsis of
>> some sort.
>>
>> Is it common for a Doritaenopsis to be sold as a "straight"
>> Phal? Am I supposed to treat it any differently than I would if it was
>> just a Phal? I ask the question, knowing I don't plant on changing
>> the care I give it. I just like to know which rules I'm breaking. <g>
>> --Vic
>
>Vic,
>
>You are very unlikely to be able to tell if it is Dtps or Phal just by
>looking at it. It is possible if it is a first or (sometimes) second
>generation hybrid. But, for reasons that don't always entirely make
>sense, the doritis that makes a plant a Doritaenopsis could have been
>its great,great,great,great...who knows how many greats, grandparent.
>Once you put Doritis into the ancestry, it stays.
>
>This leads to the vast majority of Dtps looking just like any other
>phalaenopsis. They are equivalent. Frankly, they are so equivalent
>that it is really a false distinction. That applies to culture, as
>well. There is no meaningful distinction between the culture of the two.
>
>Don't try to identify your no name phal from pictures. It is impossible
>to ever know for sure, in almost all cases. And it doesn't matter,
>anyway. Just treat it like a phal, enjoy it for its pretty flowers, and
>try to keep yourself from buying too many more orchids. Addiction is
>dangerous... *grin*
>
>
>Rob
>

Rob,

Mostly I have given up trying to identify it. I just happened to be in
the store, and they just happened to have some plants for sale, and
one just happened to look very familiar...so my curiosity fired up
again.

Trust me. I am enjoying my plant, whatever it is. It's getting watered
and fed today. It really does look fabulous in full bloom. I'm very,
very satisfied with it.

As for the ones I noticed for sale, they were way over-priced, and
they wouldn't be my first choice anyway if I were to add to my
collection. Now I just need to stay away from the upcoming orchid
show. <g>
--Vic

On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:09:48 -0400 in <dg4n6c$lh2$1 [at] news.msu.edu> Rob <rob [at] littlefrogfarm.com> wrote:
>
> You are very unlikely to be able to tell if it is Dtps or Phal just by
> looking at it. It is possible if it is a first or (sometimes) second
> generation hybrid. But, for reasons that don't always entirely make
> sense, the doritis that makes a plant a Doritaenopsis could have been
> its great,great,great,great...who knows how many greats, grandparent.
> Once you put Doritis into the ancestry, it stays.

Didn't someone recently note that the Doritis that was the parent
of most registered Doritaenopsis was a Phal and writted down wrong
in the registry?

--
Chris Dukes
Suspicion breeds confidence -- Brazil

No problem, at least once in a while I can come out of my lurking
shadow :)))

greetings from Poland
Martha