Off Topic but maybe it maddens you too.

I need a way to afford more orchids, as per Rob's rules, *G*, so I was
researching stocks/mutual funds on MSN.com when the E*Trades advertisement
expanded, swooped over my line of sight and virtually captured my monitor
for 15-20 seconds. I couldn't close the ad. I couldn't continue what I was
doing until the ad's animation finished and reduced its self back into the
ad space, returning control of my monitor to me - something straight out of
'Outer Limits'.

Ah! These clever e-commerce mavens. They've designed a new way to tick us
off. First it was banner ads, then pop ups, now this swoop.

I assume there's some sort of setting I need to change. Turn off active-x
or something... anyone have any tips?

K Barrett
K Barrett [ Sa, 01 Oktober 2005 04:10 ] [ ID #57272 ]

Re: Off Topic but maybe it maddens you too.

"K Barrett" <mormodes [at] hotmail.com> wrote in
news:b6mdneFFO8qxbaDeRVn-gg [at] comcast.com:

> I need a way to afford more orchids, as per Rob's rules, *G*, so I was
> researching stocks/mutual funds on MSN.com when the E*Trades
> advertisement expanded, swooped over my line of sight and virtually
> captured my monitor for 15-20 seconds. I couldn't close the ad. I
> couldn't continue what I was doing until the ad's animation finished
> and reduced its self back into the ad space, returning control of my
> monitor to me - something straight out of 'Outer Limits'.
>
> Ah! These clever e-commerce mavens. They've designed a new way to
> tick us off. First it was banner ads, then pop ups, now this swoop.
>
> I assume there's some sort of setting I need to change. Turn off
> active-x or something... anyone have any tips?
>
> K Barrett
>
>
>
>
>
I has always amazed me that ad makers think they have to flash you in the
face to get a sale.

Most ad's like that are written in JavaScript you can turn it off in most
browsers but be aware that some other web page functions may not work like
drop downs and buttons.
dusty [ Sa, 01 Oktober 2005 12:13 ] [ ID #57275 ]

Re: Off Topic but maybe it maddens you too.

K Barrett wrote:
> I need a way to afford more orchids, as per Rob's rules, *G*, so I was
> researching stocks/mutual funds on MSN.com when the E*Trades advertisement
> expanded, swooped over my line of sight and virtually captured my monitor
> for 15-20 seconds. I couldn't close the ad. I couldn't continue what I was
> doing until the ad's animation finished and reduced its self back into the
> ad space, returning control of my monitor to me - something straight out of
> 'Outer Limits'.
>
> Ah! These clever e-commerce mavens. They've designed a new way to tick us
> off. First it was banner ads, then pop ups, now this swoop.
>
> I assume there's some sort of setting I need to change. Turn off active-x
> or something... anyone have any tips?
>
> K Barrett


You know what ticks me off? People who are foolish enough to respond to
things like that. I usually think about this with e-mail. What if not
one person ever bought anything advertised in a spam e-mail? Nobody
would sit there and create spam if they made no money for their efforts.
I can't imagine myself giving money to someone who just spammed me,
but millions of people must do it.
The same applies to the ads that prompted you to post this. How can
people be so stupid as to reward these people with their business?

Steve
Steve [ Sa, 01 Oktober 2005 16:13 ] [ ID #57278 ]

Re: Off Topic but maybe it maddens you too.

"dusty" <dusty [at] nospam.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96E234FFF15B9dustynospamcom [at] 207.115.17.102...
> "K Barrett" <mormodes [at] hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:b6mdneFFO8qxbaDeRVn-gg [at] comcast.com:
>
> > I need a way to afford more orchids, as per Rob's rules, *G*, so I was
> > researching stocks/mutual funds on MSN.com when the E*Trades
> > advertisement expanded, swooped over my line of sight and virtually
> > captured my monitor for 15-20 seconds. I couldn't close the ad. I
> > couldn't continue what I was doing until the ad's animation finished
> > and reduced its self back into the ad space, returning control of my
> > monitor to me - something straight out of 'Outer Limits'.
> >
> > Ah! These clever e-commerce mavens. They've designed a new way to
> > tick us off. First it was banner ads, then pop ups, now this swoop.
> >
> > I assume there's some sort of setting I need to change. Turn off
> > active-x or something... anyone have any tips?
> >
> > K Barrett
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> I has always amazed me that ad makers think they have to flash you in the
> face to get a sale.
>
> Most ad's like that are written in JavaScript you can turn it off in most
> browsers but be aware that some other web page functions may not work like
> drop downs and buttons.

OK, just to show you how truly stupid I am I assume this is a check box in
IE under Tools>Internet option> advanced settings or somesuch? Or is there
a popup blocker for these? (Heck maybe I should google this, LOL!!)

Thanks dusty!

K
K Barrett [ Sa, 01 Oktober 2005 17:40 ] [ ID #57279 ]

Re: Off Topic but maybe it maddens you too.

what would really be nice is the ability to block java or JavaScript based
on the individual website. the goggle bar on my IE offers the pop-up
blocker that does this for pop-ups but recently on the whether channel
website, which I visit regularly to check shipping conditions around the
country, one of these weird programs ads took over my computer and would not
let me do anything until it finished its sales pitch. The Weather Channel!

Yes, I play D&D role playing games on the computer. I am truly 'comic book
guy' from the Simpson. One of these websites that offers hints and tips
made me click through 8 links to various flash type ads before it would load
the page I wanted to see. I wish I could find some magical device in one of
the dungeon's ubiquitous locked treasure boxes or barrels that would allow
me to neutralize these types of attacks.

And would you buy Viagra form somebody who couldn't even spell the word?

I am going out to the greenhouse to pot orchids where it is safe.

"dusty" <dusty [at] nospam.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96E234FFF15B9dustynospamcom [at] 207.115.17.102...
> "K Barrett" <mormodes [at] hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:b6mdneFFO8qxbaDeRVn-gg [at] comcast.com:
>
>> I need a way to afford more orchids, as per Rob's rules, *G*, so I was
>> researching stocks/mutual funds on MSN.com when the E*Trades
>> advertisement expanded, swooped over my line of sight and virtually
>> captured my monitor for 15-20 seconds. I couldn't close the ad. I
>> couldn't continue what I was doing until the ad's animation finished
>> and reduced its self back into the ad space, returning control of my
>> monitor to me - something straight out of 'Outer Limits'.
>>
>> Ah! These clever e-commerce mavens. They've designed a new way to
>> tick us off. First it was banner ads, then pop ups, now this swoop.
>>
>> I assume there's some sort of setting I need to change. Turn off
>> active-x or something... anyone have any tips?
>>
>> K Barrett
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> I has always amazed me that ad makers think they have to flash you in the
> face to get a sale.
>
> Most ad's like that are written in JavaScript you can turn it off in most
> browsers but be aware that some other web page functions may not work like
> drop downs and buttons.
AL [ Sa, 01 Oktober 2005 18:29 ] [ ID #57281 ]

Re: Off Topic but maybe it maddens you too.

Well I found the area where you can turn off active-x as well as turn off
animation in web pages, so hopefully that'll work. (under tools, internet
options, then both tabs: 'security> custom settings and 'advanced')

We'll see. So far only Troy Meyers site hasn't loaded well.

K

"Al" <nospam [at] all.ever> wrote in message
news:ZdWdner5rurIJKPeRVn-hA [at] adelphia.com...
> what would really be nice is the ability to block java or JavaScript based
> on the individual website. the goggle bar on my IE offers the pop-up
> blocker that does this for pop-ups but recently on the whether channel
> website, which I visit regularly to check shipping conditions around the
> country, one of these weird programs ads took over my computer and would
not
> let me do anything until it finished its sales pitch. The Weather
Channel!
>
> Yes, I play D&D role playing games on the computer. I am truly 'comic
book
> guy' from the Simpson. One of these websites that offers hints and tips
> made me click through 8 links to various flash type ads before it would
load
> the page I wanted to see. I wish I could find some magical device in one
of
> the dungeon's ubiquitous locked treasure boxes or barrels that would allow
> me to neutralize these types of attacks.
>
> And would you buy Viagra form somebody who couldn't even spell the word?
>
> I am going out to the greenhouse to pot orchids where it is safe.
>
> "dusty" <dusty [at] nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns96E234FFF15B9dustynospamcom [at] 207.115.17.102...
> > "K Barrett" <mormodes [at] hotmail.com> wrote in
> > news:b6mdneFFO8qxbaDeRVn-gg [at] comcast.com:
> >
> >> I need a way to afford more orchids, as per Rob's rules, *G*, so I was
> >> researching stocks/mutual funds on MSN.com when the E*Trades
> >> advertisement expanded, swooped over my line of sight and virtually
> >> captured my monitor for 15-20 seconds. I couldn't close the ad. I
> >> couldn't continue what I was doing until the ad's animation finished
> >> and reduced its self back into the ad space, returning control of my
> >> monitor to me - something straight out of 'Outer Limits'.
> >>
> >> Ah! These clever e-commerce mavens. They've designed a new way to
> >> tick us off. First it was banner ads, then pop ups, now this swoop.
> >>
> >> I assume there's some sort of setting I need to change. Turn off
> >> active-x or something... anyone have any tips?
> >>
> >> K Barrett
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > I has always amazed me that ad makers think they have to flash you in
the
> > face to get a sale.
> >
> > Most ad's like that are written in JavaScript you can turn it off in
most
> > browsers but be aware that some other web page functions may not work
like
> > drop downs and buttons.
>
>
K Barrett [ Sa, 01 Oktober 2005 19:53 ] [ ID #57282 ]

Re: Off Topic but maybe it maddens you too.

Dusty, I found it, I answered my own question. maybe I'm not so helpless
after all, LOL!

K
"K Barrett" <mormodes [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:mv6dnT7q15lIMKPeRVn-gQ [at] comcast.com...
> "dusty" <dusty [at] nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns96E234FFF15B9dustynospamcom [at] 207.115.17.102...
> > "K Barrett" <mormodes [at] hotmail.com> wrote in
> > news:b6mdneFFO8qxbaDeRVn-gg [at] comcast.com:
> >
> > > I need a way to afford more orchids, as per Rob's rules, *G*, so I was
> > > researching stocks/mutual funds on MSN.com when the E*Trades
> > > advertisement expanded, swooped over my line of sight and virtually
> > > captured my monitor for 15-20 seconds. I couldn't close the ad. I
> > > couldn't continue what I was doing until the ad's animation finished
> > > and reduced its self back into the ad space, returning control of my
> > > monitor to me - something straight out of 'Outer Limits'.
> > >
> > > Ah! These clever e-commerce mavens. They've designed a new way to
> > > tick us off. First it was banner ads, then pop ups, now this swoop.
> > >
> > > I assume there's some sort of setting I need to change. Turn off
> > > active-x or something... anyone have any tips?
> > >
> > > K Barrett
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > I has always amazed me that ad makers think they have to flash you in
the
> > face to get a sale.
> >
> > Most ad's like that are written in JavaScript you can turn it off in
most
> > browsers but be aware that some other web page functions may not work
like
> > drop downs and buttons.
>
> OK, just to show you how truly stupid I am I assume this is a check box in
> IE under Tools>Internet option> advanced settings or somesuch? Or is
there
> a popup blocker for these? (Heck maybe I should google this, LOL!!)
>
> Thanks dusty!
>
> K
>
>
K Barrett [ Sa, 01 Oktober 2005 19:54 ] [ ID #57283 ]

Re: Off Topic but maybe it maddens you too.

K -- I've had this happen once or twice. Never on a site I really "couldn't
live" without. So my recourse has been to just not go there.

I'm not terribly optimistic, but I do hold out some hope that if enough
people do that, the practice will stop ...

Kenni

"K Barrett" <mormodes [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b6mdneFFO8qxbaDeRVn-gg [at] comcast.com...
>I need a way to afford more orchids, as per Rob's rules, *G*, so I was
> researching stocks/mutual funds on MSN.com when the E*Trades advertisement
> expanded, swooped over my line of sight and virtually captured my monitor
> for 15-20 seconds. I couldn't close the ad. I couldn't continue what I
> was
> doing until the ad's animation finished and reduced its self back into the
> ad space, returning control of my monitor to me - something straight out
> of
> 'Outer Limits'.
>
> Ah! These clever e-commerce mavens. They've designed a new way to tick
> us
> off. First it was banner ads, then pop ups, now this swoop.
>
> I assume there's some sort of setting I need to change. Turn off active-x
> or something... anyone have any tips?
>
> K Barrett
>
>
>
>
Kenni Judd [ So, 02 Oktober 2005 00:29 ] [ ID #57286 ]

Re: Off Topic but maybe it maddens you too.

I am not 100% sure about this, but Mozilla Firefox has the option to
block specific sites' active X or pop ups etc, leaving your favourite
sites intact.
nigel.savage [ So, 02 Oktober 2005 12:25 ] [ ID #57290 ]

Re: Off Topic but maybe it maddens you too.

"K Barrett" <mormodes [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jJWdnVKPfpr8UKPeRVn-iA [at] comcast.com...
> Dusty, I found it, I answered my own question. maybe I'm not so helpless
> after all, LOL!

Here's something interesting about these pop ups and such.

Turning off Java will stop some, shutting off active-x will shut off the
rest.

Websites are starting to require Java and scripts to be allowed for their
content to be viewed, which means they are requiring you to allow
intrusions, monitoring, and weakening your defenses just to see their
website.

Want to see someone's catalog, map, or video, you have to allow them to
monitor your internet activities.

Even more interesting is that some of the personal firewall protection
software run on active-x and Java, so if you disable them in windows the
software won't run.

So basically you're screwed. If the software companies want their software
to not be blocked, they'll pay for it and the firewall software companies
will allow it.

Welcome to the benefits of capitalism when the government wants urestricted
gains and profits.
Kinia Surrat Mugab [ Mo, 03 Oktober 2005 06:18 ] [ ID #57294 ]

Re: Off Topic but maybe it maddens you too.

Kathy,

You are asking for trouble by continuing to use Internet Explorer.

Firefox is a better browser and is not always the target of every virus and
worm writer on the planet.

www.mozilla.org

-Eric in SF
www.orchidphotos.org

"K Barrett" <mormodes [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:mv6dnT7q15lIMKPeRVn-gQ [at] comcast.com...
> "dusty" <dusty [at] nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns96E234FFF15B9dustynospamcom [at] 207.115.17.102...
>> "K Barrett" <mormodes [at] hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:b6mdneFFO8qxbaDeRVn-gg [at] comcast.com:
>>
>> > I need a way to afford more orchids, as per Rob's rules, *G*, so I was
>> > researching stocks/mutual funds on MSN.com when the E*Trades
>> > advertisement expanded, swooped over my line of sight and virtually
>> > captured my monitor for 15-20 seconds. I couldn't close the ad. I
>> > couldn't continue what I was doing until the ad's animation finished
>> > and reduced its self back into the ad space, returning control of my
>> > monitor to me - something straight out of 'Outer Limits'.
>> >
>> > Ah! These clever e-commerce mavens. They've designed a new way to
>> > tick us off. First it was banner ads, then pop ups, now this swoop.
>> >
>> > I assume there's some sort of setting I need to change. Turn off
>> > active-x or something... anyone have any tips?
>> >
>> > K Barrett
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> I has always amazed me that ad makers think they have to flash you in the
>> face to get a sale.
>>
>> Most ad's like that are written in JavaScript you can turn it off in most
>> browsers but be aware that some other web page functions may not work
>> like
>> drop downs and buttons.
>
> OK, just to show you how truly stupid I am I assume this is a check box in
> IE under Tools>Internet option> advanced settings or somesuch? Or is
> there
> a popup blocker for these? (Heck maybe I should google this, LOL!!)
>
> Thanks dusty!
>
> K
>
>
Mark [ Mo, 03 Oktober 2005 08:14 ] [ ID #57296 ]

Re: Off Topic but maybe it maddens you too.

K Barrett wrote:
> I need a way to afford more orchids, as per Rob's rules, *G*, so I was
> researching stocks/mutual funds on MSN.com when the E*Trades advertisement
> expanded, swooped over my line of sight and virtually captured my monitor
> for 15-20 seconds. I couldn't close the ad. I couldn't continue what I was
> doing until the ad's animation finished and reduced its self back into the
> ad space, returning control of my monitor to me - something straight out of
> 'Outer Limits'.
>
> Ah! These clever e-commerce mavens. They've designed a new way to tick us
> off. First it was banner ads, then pop ups, now this swoop.
>
> I assume there's some sort of setting I need to change. Turn off active-x
> or something... anyone have any tips?
>
> K Barrett
>
>
>
>

Get Firefox, and the adblocker extension. Block any and all traffic
from the adserver that gave you the nasty ad. Easy peasy. I don't see
nearly so much garbage as I used to.

--
Rob's Rules: http://littlefrogfarm.com
1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a) See rule 1
3) When one has insufficient credit to obtain more
orchids, obtain more credit
Rob [ Mo, 03 Oktober 2005 15:09 ] [ ID #57298 ]

Re: Off Topic but maybe it maddens you too.

On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 19:10:55 -0700 in <b6mdneFFO8qxbaDeRVn-gg [at] comcast.com> K Barrett <mormodes [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
> I need a way to afford more orchids, as per Rob's rules, *G*, so I was
> researching stocks/mutual funds on MSN.com when the E*Trades advertisement
> expanded, swooped over my line of sight and virtually captured my monitor
> for 15-20 seconds. I couldn't close the ad. I couldn't continue what I was
> doing until the ad's animation finished and reduced its self back into the
> ad space, returning control of my monitor to me - something straight out of
> 'Outer Limits'.
>
> Ah! These clever e-commerce mavens. They've designed a new way to tick us
> off. First it was banner ads, then pop ups, now this swoop.
>
> I assume there's some sort of setting I need to change. Turn off active-x
> or something... anyone have any tips?

Uninstall flash.
Use any browser other than Internet Exploder.
The general rule of thumb is that if a site requires flash,
it is totally void of content.


--
Chris Dukes
Suspicion breeds confidence -- Brazil
pakrat [ Mo, 03 Oktober 2005 15:04 ] [ ID #57299 ]

Re: Off Topic but maybe it maddens you too.

Then what do you use to read newsgroups? I have Firefox and don't use it
becasue I have to go to yet another program - Thunderbird - just to read
newsgroups. So I'd be going between 2 programns to accomplish what i do
with one....

Or is that just the price of living online?

K

"Eric Hunt" <nospam [at] nospam.com> wrote in message
news:26GdnRviB5nTUd3eRVn-gg [at] giganews.com...
> Kathy,
>
> You are asking for trouble by continuing to use Internet Explorer.
>
> Firefox is a better browser and is not always the target of every virus
and
> worm writer on the planet.
>
> www.mozilla.org
>
> -Eric in SF
> www.orchidphotos.org
>
> "K Barrett" <mormodes [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:mv6dnT7q15lIMKPeRVn-gQ [at] comcast.com...
> > "dusty" <dusty [at] nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:Xns96E234FFF15B9dustynospamcom [at] 207.115.17.102...
> >> "K Barrett" <mormodes [at] hotmail.com> wrote in
> >> news:b6mdneFFO8qxbaDeRVn-gg [at] comcast.com:
> >>
> >> > I need a way to afford more orchids, as per Rob's rules, *G*, so I
was
> >> > researching stocks/mutual funds on MSN.com when the E*Trades
> >> > advertisement expanded, swooped over my line of sight and virtually
> >> > captured my monitor for 15-20 seconds. I couldn't close the ad. I
> >> > couldn't continue what I was doing until the ad's animation finished
> >> > and reduced its self back into the ad space, returning control of my
> >> > monitor to me - something straight out of 'Outer Limits'.
> >> >
> >> > Ah! These clever e-commerce mavens. They've designed a new way to
> >> > tick us off. First it was banner ads, then pop ups, now this swoop.
> >> >
> >> > I assume there's some sort of setting I need to change. Turn off
> >> > active-x or something... anyone have any tips?
> >> >
> >> > K Barrett
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> I has always amazed me that ad makers think they have to flash you in
the
> >> face to get a sale.
> >>
> >> Most ad's like that are written in JavaScript you can turn it off in
most
> >> browsers but be aware that some other web page functions may not work
> >> like
> >> drop downs and buttons.
> >
> > OK, just to show you how truly stupid I am I assume this is a check box
in
> > IE under Tools>Internet option> advanced settings or somesuch? Or is
> > there
> > a popup blocker for these? (Heck maybe I should google this, LOL!!)
> >
> > Thanks dusty!
> >
> > K
> >
> >
>
>
K Barrett [ Mo, 03 Oktober 2005 16:52 ] [ ID #57300 ]

Re: Off Topic but maybe it maddens you too.

"?" <pakrat [at] localhost.private.neotoma.org> wrote in message
news:slrndk2b2a.3lg.pakrat [at] mouse.private.neotoma.org...
> On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 19:10:55 -0700 in <b6mdneFFO8qxbaDeRVn-gg [at] comcast.com>
K Barrett <mormodes [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I need a way to afford more orchids, as per Rob's rules, *G*, so I was
> > researching stocks/mutual funds on MSN.com when the E*Trades
advertisement
> > expanded, swooped over my line of sight and virtually captured my
monitor
> > for 15-20 seconds. I couldn't close the ad. I couldn't continue what I
was
> > doing until the ad's animation finished and reduced its self back into
the
> > ad space, returning control of my monitor to me - something straight out
of
> > 'Outer Limits'.
> >
> > Ah! These clever e-commerce mavens. They've designed a new way to
tick us
> > off. First it was banner ads, then pop ups, now this swoop.
> >
> > I assume there's some sort of setting I need to change. Turn off
active-x
> > or something... anyone have any tips?
>
> Uninstall flash.
> Use any browser other than Internet Exploder.
> The general rule of thumb is that if a site requires flash,
> it is totally void of content.
>
>
> --
> Chris Dukes
> Suspicion breeds confidence -- Brazil

Ha!! Good one!

K
K Barrett [ Mo, 03 Oktober 2005 16:52 ] [ ID #57301 ]

Re: Off Topic but maybe it maddens you too.

"Rob" <rob [at] littlefrogfarm.com> wrote in message
news:dhraih$d9i$1 [at] news.msu.edu...
> K Barrett wrote:
> > I need a way to afford more orchids, as per Rob's rules, *G*, so I was
> > researching stocks/mutual funds on MSN.com when the E*Trades
advertisement
> > expanded, swooped over my line of sight and virtually captured my
monitor
> > for 15-20 seconds. I couldn't close the ad. I couldn't continue what I
was
> > doing until the ad's animation finished and reduced its self back into
the
> > ad space, returning control of my monitor to me - something straight out
of
> > 'Outer Limits'.
> >
> > Ah! These clever e-commerce mavens. They've designed a new way to
tick us
> > off. First it was banner ads, then pop ups, now this swoop.
> >
> > I assume there's some sort of setting I need to change. Turn off
active-x
> > or something... anyone have any tips?
> >
> > K Barrett
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Get Firefox, and the adblocker extension. Block any and all traffic
> from the adserver that gave you the nasty ad. Easy peasy. I don't see
> nearly so much garbage as I used to.
>
> --
> Rob's Rules: http://littlefrogfarm.com
> 1) There is always room for one more orchid
> 2) There is always room for two more orchids
> 2a) See rule 1
> 3) When one has insufficient credit to obtain more
> orchids, obtain more credit
>

OK, that's at least 7 votes I've gotten for Firefox. Guess I'd better
change.

K
K Barrett [ Mo, 03 Oktober 2005 16:53 ] [ ID #57302 ]

Re: Off Topic but maybe it maddens you too.

"Kinia Surrat Mugab" <kmugab [at] hometown.com> wrote in message
news:11k1c829hsrhkcb [at] corp.supernews.com...
> "K Barrett" <mormodes [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:jJWdnVKPfpr8UKPeRVn-iA [at] comcast.com...
> > Dusty, I found it, I answered my own question. maybe I'm not so
helpless
> > after all, LOL!
>
> Here's something interesting about these pop ups and such.
>
> Turning off Java will stop some, shutting off active-x will shut off the
> rest.
>
> Websites are starting to require Java and scripts to be allowed for their
> content to be viewed, which means they are requiring you to allow
> intrusions, monitoring, and weakening your defenses just to see their
> website.
>
> Want to see someone's catalog, map, or video, you have to allow them to
> monitor your internet activities.
>
> Even more interesting is that some of the personal firewall protection
> software run on active-x and Java, so if you disable them in windows the
> software won't run.
>
> So basically you're screwed. If the software companies want their software
> to not be blocked, they'll pay for it and the firewall software companies
> will allow it.
>
> Welcome to the benefits of capitalism when the government wants
urestricted
> gains and profits.
>
>

Oh, great! What a tangled web we weave...

K
K Barrett [ Mo, 03 Oktober 2005 16:55 ] [ ID #57303 ]

Re: Off Topic but maybe it maddens you too.

Install Ad-Aware SE

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Artwork, Books and Lots of Free Info!


"?" <pakrat [at] localhost.private.neotoma.org> wrote in message
news:slrndk2b2a.3lg.pakrat [at] mouse.private.neotoma.org...
> On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 19:10:55 -0700 in <b6mdneFFO8qxbaDeRVn-gg [at] comcast.com>
> K Barrett <mormodes [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I need a way to afford more orchids, as per Rob's rules, *G*, so I was
>> researching stocks/mutual funds on MSN.com when the E*Trades
>> advertisement
>> expanded, swooped over my line of sight and virtually captured my monitor
>> for 15-20 seconds. I couldn't close the ad. I couldn't continue what I
>> was
>> doing until the ad's animation finished and reduced its self back into
>> the
>> ad space, returning control of my monitor to me - something straight out
>> of
>> 'Outer Limits'.
>>
>> Ah! These clever e-commerce mavens. They've designed a new way to tick
>> us
>> off. First it was banner ads, then pop ups, now this swoop.
>>
>> I assume there's some sort of setting I need to change. Turn off
>> active-x
>> or something... anyone have any tips?
>
> Uninstall flash.
> Use any browser other than Internet Exploder.
> The general rule of thumb is that if a site requires flash,
> it is totally void of content.
>
>
> --
> Chris Dukes
> Suspicion breeds confidence -- Brazil
Ray [ Mo, 03 Oktober 2005 18:10 ] [ ID #57304 ]

Re: Off Topic but maybe it maddens you too.

On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 12:10:26 -0400 in <pemdnRDpGrocxdzeRVn-hA [at] comcast.com> Ray <raybark [at] firstrays.com> wrote:
> Install Ad-Aware SE

Does not appear to be available for Linux :-).
>


--
Chris Dukes
Suspicion breeds confidence -- Brazil
pakrat [ Mo, 03 Oktober 2005 18:35 ] [ ID #57305 ]

Re: Off Topic but maybe it maddens you too.

K Barrett wrote:
> Then what do you use to read newsgroups? I have Firefox and don't use it
> becasue I have to go to yet another program - Thunderbird - just to read
> newsgroups. So I'd be going between 2 programns to accomplish what i do
> with one....
>
> Or is that just the price of living online?

I'm pretty happy with Thunderbird... Keeps some of the e-mail viruses
at bay.

Of course now Firefox and Thunderbird are a substantial share of the
market, and they have security vulnerabilities too... Nothing is perfect.





--
Rob's Rules: http://littlefrogfarm.com
1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a) See rule 1
3) When one has insufficient credit to obtain more
orchids, obtain more credit
Rob [ Mo, 03 Oktober 2005 22:45 ] [ ID #57308 ]

Re: Off Topic but maybe it maddens you too.

That's right, Rob. Unfortunately, there are degenerates out there who will
try to contaminate us all.

Yeah, MS products are the primary target, but they are also the primary
group for which remedies are created.

You lose some, you win some....
--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Artwork, Books and Lots of Free Info!


"Rob" <rob [at] littlefrogfarm.com> wrote in message
news:dhs5a1$86j$1 [at] news.msu.edu...
>K Barrett wrote:
>> Then what do you use to read newsgroups? I have Firefox and don't use it
>> becasue I have to go to yet another program - Thunderbird - just to read
>> newsgroups. So I'd be going between 2 programns to accomplish what i do
>> with one....
>>
>> Or is that just the price of living online?
>
> I'm pretty happy with Thunderbird... Keeps some of the e-mail viruses at
> bay.
>
> Of course now Firefox and Thunderbird are a substantial share of the
> market, and they have security vulnerabilities too... Nothing is perfect.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Rob's Rules: http://littlefrogfarm.com
> 1) There is always room for one more orchid
> 2) There is always room for two more orchids
> 2a) See rule 1
> 3) When one has insufficient credit to obtain more
> orchids, obtain more credit
>
Ray [ Di, 04 Oktober 2005 03:08 ] [ ID #57310 ]

Re: Off Topic but maybe it maddens you too.

Ray wrote:
> That's right, Rob. Unfortunately, there are degenerates out there who will
> try to contaminate us all.
>
> Yeah, MS products are the primary target, but they are also the primary
> group for which remedies are created.
>
> You lose some, you win some....


OK here I am on Thunderbird.... Ack! I can feel my braincells
stretching and distorting from learning new skills.....aggrgh!!!

POP!!!

OK, now that's better...

K
K Barrett [ Di, 04 Oktober 2005 05:08 ] [ ID #57311 ]

Re: Off Topic but maybe it maddens you too.

While I generally agree that disabling Flash is a perfectly
acceptable way of keeping your computer crap-free, there is also
Flashblock (currently version 1.2.9) for FireFox. It replaces the Flash
object with a bland button you can click if you absolutely, positively
HAVE to see the crap.

And then there's also Adblock, in v.5.

See also:

http://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/?application=firefox

It'll make your browsing experience a lot better. Once you bolster
Firefox with the right plugins, it's a lot like owning a phone- but
without the telemarketers (which we all dearly miss, right?).

The address in the header isn't valid. Send no email there.

-AJHicks
Chandler, AZ
ahicks [ Di, 04 Oktober 2005 18:53 ] [ ID #57900 ]

Re: Off Topic but maybe it maddens you too.

Kathy,

I use Outlook Express to read usenet. I use Outlook 2000 for Mail and
Firefox for web browsing.

I vastly prefer using individual programs for different tasks - that way I
have more choice. If the Firefox of usenet browsers is released, I can dump
OE and not worry about having to learn a new web browser too.

Now, about OE. I'm not very hardcore about reading UseNet, so OE works just
fine. I do know there are better and/or more popular usenet readers
available, I've never needed to check them out. =)

-Eric

"K Barrett" <mormodes [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:I7SdnVbUcMcT2NzeRVn-pw [at] comcast.com...
> Then what do you use to read newsgroups? I have Firefox and don't use it
> becasue I have to go to yet another program - Thunderbird - just to read
> newsgroups. So I'd be going between 2 programns to accomplish what i do
> with one....
>
> Or is that just the price of living online?
>
> K
>
> "Eric Hunt" <nospam [at] nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:26GdnRviB5nTUd3eRVn-gg [at] giganews.com...
>> Kathy,
>>
>> You are asking for trouble by continuing to use Internet Explorer.
>>
>> Firefox is a better browser and is not always the target of every virus
> and
>> worm writer on the planet.
>>
>> www.mozilla.org
>>
>> -Eric in SF
>> www.orchidphotos.org
>>
>> "K Barrett" <mormodes [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:mv6dnT7q15lIMKPeRVn-gQ [at] comcast.com...
>> > "dusty" <dusty [at] nospam.com> wrote in message
>> > news:Xns96E234FFF15B9dustynospamcom [at] 207.115.17.102...
>> >> "K Barrett" <mormodes [at] hotmail.com> wrote in
>> >> news:b6mdneFFO8qxbaDeRVn-gg [at] comcast.com:
>> >>
>> >> > I need a way to afford more orchids, as per Rob's rules, *G*, so I
> was
>> >> > researching stocks/mutual funds on MSN.com when the E*Trades
>> >> > advertisement expanded, swooped over my line of sight and virtually
>> >> > captured my monitor for 15-20 seconds. I couldn't close the ad. I
>> >> > couldn't continue what I was doing until the ad's animation finished
>> >> > and reduced its self back into the ad space, returning control of my
>> >> > monitor to me - something straight out of 'Outer Limits'.
>> >> >
>> >> > Ah! These clever e-commerce mavens. They've designed a new way to
>> >> > tick us off. First it was banner ads, then pop ups, now this swoop.
>> >> >
>> >> > I assume there's some sort of setting I need to change. Turn off
>> >> > active-x or something... anyone have any tips?
>> >> >
>> >> > K Barrett
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> I has always amazed me that ad makers think they have to flash you in
> the
>> >> face to get a sale.
>> >>
>> >> Most ad's like that are written in JavaScript you can turn it off in
> most
>> >> browsers but be aware that some other web page functions may not work
>> >> like
>> >> drop downs and buttons.
>> >
>> > OK, just to show you how truly stupid I am I assume this is a check box
> in
>> > IE under Tools>Internet option> advanced settings or somesuch? Or is
>> > there
>> > a popup blocker for these? (Heck maybe I should google this, LOL!!)
>> >
>> > Thanks dusty!
>> >
>> > K
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
Mark [ Mi, 05 Oktober 2005 17:03 ] [ ID #57913 ]

Re: Off Topic but maybe it maddens you too.

Kath,

I'd totally forgotten about adblock on FireFox!

I don't see ads anymore on the web. Period.

It's amazing, refreshing, and I hate using another computer without it to
browse the web.

It's like TiVo - you stop watching commercials when you have TiVo and then
when you're at a friend's house watching live TV with commercials - it's
maddening!

-Eric

"K Barrett" <mormodes [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:rYmdnX4rfpx42NzeRVn-og [at] comcast.com...
> "Rob" <rob [at] littlefrogfarm.com> wrote in message
> news:dhraih$d9i$1 [at] news.msu.edu...
>> K Barrett wrote:
>> > I need a way to afford more orchids, as per Rob's rules, *G*, so I was
>> > researching stocks/mutual funds on MSN.com when the E*Trades
> advertisement
>> > expanded, swooped over my line of sight and virtually captured my
> monitor
>> > for 15-20 seconds. I couldn't close the ad. I couldn't continue what
>> > I
> was
>> > doing until the ad's animation finished and reduced its self back into
> the
>> > ad space, returning control of my monitor to me - something straight
>> > out
> of
>> > 'Outer Limits'.
>> >
>> > Ah! These clever e-commerce mavens. They've designed a new way to
> tick us
>> > off. First it was banner ads, then pop ups, now this swoop.
>> >
>> > I assume there's some sort of setting I need to change. Turn off
> active-x
>> > or something... anyone have any tips?
>> >
>> > K Barrett
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Get Firefox, and the adblocker extension. Block any and all traffic
>> from the adserver that gave you the nasty ad. Easy peasy. I don't see
>> nearly so much garbage as I used to.
>>
>> --
>> Rob's Rules: http://littlefrogfarm.com
>> 1) There is always room for one more orchid
>> 2) There is always room for two more orchids
>> 2a) See rule 1
>> 3) When one has insufficient credit to obtain more
>> orchids, obtain more credit
>>
>
> OK, that's at least 7 votes I've gotten for Firefox. Guess I'd better
> change.
>
> K
>
>
Mark [ Mi, 05 Oktober 2005 17:06 ] [ ID #57914 ]

Re: Off Topic but maybe it maddens you too.

On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 08:06:16 -0700, "Eric Hunt"
<nospam [at] nospam.com> wrote:

>Kath,
>
>I'd totally forgotten about adblock on FireFox!
>
>I don't see ads anymore on the web. Period.
>
>It's amazing, refreshing, and I hate using another computer without it to
>browse the web.
>
>It's like TiVo - you stop watching commercials when you have TiVo and then
>when you're at a friend's house watching live TV with commercials - it's
>maddening!
>
>-Eric

Or even stuck watching TV live at home after you have become used
to skipping commercials and suddenly you catch up to live
broadcast and have to wait thru the rest of the commercials.


>"K Barrett" <mormodes [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:rYmdnX4rfpx42NzeRVn-og [at] comcast.com...
>> "Rob" <rob [at] littlefrogfarm.com> wrote in message
>> news:dhraih$d9i$1 [at] news.msu.edu...
>>> K Barrett wrote:
>>> > I need a way to afford more orchids, as per Rob's rules, *G*, so I was
>>> > researching stocks/mutual funds on MSN.com when the E*Trades
>> advertisement
>>> > expanded, swooped over my line of sight and virtually captured my
>> monitor
>>> > for 15-20 seconds. I couldn't close the ad. I couldn't continue what
>>> > I
>> was
>>> > doing until the ad's animation finished and reduced its self back into
>> the
>>> > ad space, returning control of my monitor to me - something straight
>>> > out
>> of
>>> > 'Outer Limits'.
>>> >
>>> > Ah! These clever e-commerce mavens. They've designed a new way to
>> tick us
>>> > off. First it was banner ads, then pop ups, now this swoop.
>>> >
>>> > I assume there's some sort of setting I need to change. Turn off
>> active-x
>>> > or something... anyone have any tips?
>>> >
>>> > K Barrett
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> Get Firefox, and the adblocker extension. Block any and all traffic
>>> from the adserver that gave you the nasty ad. Easy peasy. I don't see
>>> nearly so much garbage as I used to.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rob's Rules: http://littlefrogfarm.com
>>> 1) There is always room for one more orchid
>>> 2) There is always room for two more orchids
>>> 2a) See rule 1
>>> 3) When one has insufficient credit to obtain more
>>> orchids, obtain more credit
>>>
>>
>> OK, that's at least 7 votes I've gotten for Firefox. Guess I'd better
>> change.
>>
>> K
>>
>>
>

SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php
Susan Erickson [ Mi, 05 Oktober 2005 18:53 ] [ ID #57919 ]
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