I was set to buy Charles de Mills this season when I chanced to see
David Austin's Heritage. I am looking for a nicely scented pink rose
with that old fashioned half cabbage look to it. I know Charles is a
Gallica and I have no gallicas in my garden yet and I've heard they are
spectacular although not repeat bloomers. I've also heard good things
about David Austin Roses and this rose looks like an old rose but has
some nice "modern features" like recurrant bloom. It also sounds
"bushier" than Charles.


In the past, I have always eliminated Austin Roses from my list because
I'm in zone 4, Minneapolis and DA Roses are only rated for zone 5 and
above. I do protect my roses but I like to start with something that
claims it can survive. I treat my tea roses as if they were annuals. If
they survive, great but plan to replace at least a few each year.

Does someone have both of these puppies in their garden? Or have
possitive or negative things to say about one or the other?

mm

Roses: Shrub--Morden Blush, Morden Centennial, Charles Albanel, Therese
Bugnet, John Cabot; HT: Full Sail, Vets Honor, Ink Spots, Opening
Night.

mm wrote:
>
> I was set to buy Charles de Mills this season when I chanced to see
>
Well, not exactly in my garden, but within the block there is an
Austin fan and a Gallica grower. The lady who grows English
roses does not winter protect, her roses depend on the leaves
that naturaly accumulate in the fall for winter cover. There is
quite a bit of die back some winters, but they have survived for
years. Heritage is one that she grows. I just grow Fishermans
Friend and Wm. Shakspeare in a more exposed site and they die
back to the wood chip mulch that I mound up for winter.

The Gallicas just get minor tip die back most winters. Charles
de Mills has a clipped look to the bloom, a darker pink than
Heritage and a more striking look to my eye.
Well, it does bloom only once a year, but so do tulips,
daffodils and lilacs.

Regards from Tropical Minnesota Zone 4a

Charles
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"mm" <mmarteen [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> In the past, I have always eliminated Austin Roses from my list because
> I'm in zone 4, Minneapolis and DA Roses are only rated for zone 5 and
> above. I do protect my roses but I like to start with something that
> claims it can survive. I treat my tea roses as if they were annuals. If
> they survive, great but plan to replace at least a few each year.
>


Hi.

I'm in Zone 3A and I have a Heritage rose!! With protection, it has made it
through four seasons. The blooms are exceptional.

I think you could have more luck with David Austins than you thought
possible.

mm Wrote:
> I was set to buy Charles de Mills this season when I chanced to see
> David Austin's Heritage.
> possitive or negative things to say about one or the other?
>
> mm
>
> Roses: Shrub--Morden Blush, Morden Centennial, Charles Albanel,
> Therese
> Bugnet, John Cabot; HT: Full Sail, Vets Honor, Ink Spots, Opening
> Night.

Rosa gallica 'Charles De Mills' : martyr to mildew

incidently...on the subject of hardiness of green plants , application
of high potassium feed in late summer (ie tomato fertilizer) can
possibly induce greater resistance to low winter temperatures .


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