Hello there

I have had an extremely happy nellie kelly vine that I planted about
four years ago, and for the last two years we have been able to supply
passionfruit by the boxful to all of our neighbours and friends. About
two weeks ago a section of it started to wilt and turn brown and the
unripe fruit puckered up and dropped off, and now most of the vine is
turning up its toes.

It seems to have a bit of a powdery grey thing happening on some of the
stems and fruit, but the leaves seem to look ok, right up to the moment
when they wilt and die.

Does anyone know what is happening? Is there anything I can do to save
the rest of the vine? And is there any way I can prevent whatever-it-is
from killing off the other passionfruit vine round the side of the house?

Any ideas or advice would be greatly appreciated.

xx

Cath

HailtotheDuck wrote:
>
> Hello there
>
> I have had an extremely happy nellie kelly vine that I planted about
> four years ago, and for the last two years we have been able to supply
> passionfruit by the boxful to all of our neighbours and friends. About
> two weeks ago a section of it started to wilt and turn brown and the
> unripe fruit puckered up and dropped off, and now most of the vine is
> turning up its toes.
>
> It seems to have a bit of a powdery grey thing happening on some of the
> stems and fruit, but the leaves seem to look ok, right up to the moment
> when they wilt and die.
>
> Does anyone know what is happening? Is there anything I can do to save
> the rest of the vine? And is there any way I can prevent whatever-it-is
> from killing off the other passionfruit vine round the side of the house?
>
> Any ideas or advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
> xx
>
> Cath
They have a certain lenght of life. Maybe yours has had a hard life.
Pull it out and replace it with another in a different part of the
garden. Where do you live? They love a north /south aspect on the
northern part of your home.
It may either be getting too much water, is water logged or is too dry.
My Passion fruit is all over my yard, all over anything it can get to
gain extra heigth and is lucky enough to get extra water when it rains
due to broken gutter. Some vines have it perfect... 3 years old and
accidental add in to nursery plant. Grew better than a grafted variety.
The wifes tickled pink?

On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 15:06:34 +1100, HailtotheDuck <cath [at] ducknet.com.au> wrote:

>
> Hello there
>
> I have had an extremely happy nellie kelly vine that I planted about
> four years ago, and for the last two years we have been able to supply
> passionfruit by the boxful to all of our neighbours and friends. About
> two weeks ago a section of it started to wilt and turn brown and the
> unripe fruit puckered up and dropped off, and now most of the vine is
> turning up its toes.
>
> It seems to have a bit of a powdery grey thing happening on some of the
> stems and fruit, but the leaves seem to look ok, right up to the moment
> when they wilt and die.
>
> Does anyone know what is happening? Is there anything I can do to save
> the rest of the vine? And is there any way I can prevent whatever-it-is
> from killing off the other passionfruit vine round the side of the house?
>
> Any ideas or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Nellie Kelly is only goo for 4 or 5 years.

Ideally, plant a new one every 3 years in different spots in the garden.

rainman [at] mailinator.com wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 15:06:34 +1100, HailtotheDuck <cath [at] ducknet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>>Hello there
>>
>>I have had an extremely happy nellie kelly vine that I planted about
>>four years ago, and for the last two years we have been able to supply
>>passionfruit by the boxful to all of our neighbours and friends. About
>>two weeks ago a section of it started to wilt and turn brown and the
>>unripe fruit puckered up and dropped off, and now most of the vine is
>>turning up its toes.
>>
>>It seems to have a bit of a powdery grey thing happening on some of the
>>stems and fruit, but the leaves seem to look ok, right up to the moment
>>when they wilt and die.
>>
>>Does anyone know what is happening? Is there anything I can do to save
>>the rest of the vine? And is there any way I can prevent whatever-it-is
>>from killing off the other passionfruit vine round the side of the house?
>>
>>Any ideas or advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> Nellie Kelly is only goo for 4 or 5 years.
>
> Ideally, plant a new one every 3 years in different spots in the garden.
>
>
>
>
Thank you Jonno and rainman

I was worried that my plant might have contracted some sort of virus
thing that would spread through the garden and kill off all my
best-loved plants, including the new passionfruit on the side fence.

To answer your question Jonno - I'm in Melbourne, and I guess the dear
old vine had a bit of a tough life - in two years I think it must have
produced enough fruit to supply all the pavlova and sponge makers of the
southern hemisphere for a decade. Perhaps it's just exhausted.

I'm sad that my incredibly fruity vine has reached the end of its
(short) life, but gosh that's a lot better than having my whole garden
succumb to a horrible-unstoppable-plant-killing-virus-from-hell.

Thanks again, I really do appreciate your help.

Cath

HailtotheDuck wrote:
> rainman [at] mailinator.com wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 15:06:34 +1100, HailtotheDuck
>> <cath [at] ducknet.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hello there
>>>
>>> I have had an extremely happy nellie kelly vine that I planted about
>>> four years ago, and for the last two years we have been able to
>>> supply passionfruit by the boxful to all of our neighbours and
>>> friends. About two weeks ago a section of it started to wilt and
>>> turn brown and the unripe fruit puckered up and dropped off, and now
>>> most of the vine is turning up its toes.
>>>
>>> It seems to have a bit of a powdery grey thing happening on some of
>>> the stems and fruit, but the leaves seem to look ok, right up to the
>>> moment when they wilt and die.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know what is happening? Is there anything I can do to
>>> save the rest of the vine? And is there any way I can prevent
>>> whatever-it-is from killing off the other passionfruit vine round the
>>> side of the house?
>>>
>>> Any ideas or advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Nellie Kelly is only goo for 4 or 5 years.
>>
>> Ideally, plant a new one every 3 years in different spots in the garden.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Thank you Jonno and rainman
>
> I was worried that my plant might have contracted some sort of virus
> thing that would spread through the garden and kill off all my
> best-loved plants, including the new passionfruit on the side fence.
>
> To answer your question Jonno - I'm in Melbourne, and I guess the dear
> old vine had a bit of a tough life - in two years I think it must have
> produced enough fruit to supply all the pavlova and sponge makers of the
> southern hemisphere for a decade. Perhaps it's just exhausted.
>
> I'm sad that my incredibly fruity vine has reached the end of its
> (short) life, but gosh that's a lot better than having my whole garden
> succumb to a horrible-unstoppable-plant-killing-virus-from-hell.
>
> Thanks again, I really do appreciate your help.
>
> Cath
>
I Had to prune my unstoppable vine, some trailing vines were cut and I
got a scolding from the "one that must be obeyed" Because the leaves
started to die. Not surprisingly I copped a blast. AT least I can get to
the garden shed and beyond now!!

Jonno wrote:
> HailtotheDuck wrote:
>
>> rainman [at] mailinator.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 15:06:34 +1100, HailtotheDuck
>>> <cath [at] ducknet.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello there
>>>>
>>>> I have had an extremely happy nellie kelly vine that I planted about
>>>> four years ago, and for the last two years we have been able to
>>>> supply passionfruit by the boxful to all of our neighbours and
>>>> friends. About two weeks ago a section of it started to wilt and
>>>> turn brown and the unripe fruit puckered up and dropped off, and now
>>>> most of the vine is turning up its toes.
>>>>
>>>> It seems to have a bit of a powdery grey thing happening on some of
>>>> the stems and fruit, but the leaves seem to look ok, right up to the
>>>> moment when they wilt and die.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know what is happening? Is there anything I can do to
>>>> save the rest of the vine? And is there any way I can prevent
>>>> whatever-it-is from killing off the other passionfruit vine round
>>>> the side of the house?
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas or advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Nellie Kelly is only goo for 4 or 5 years.
>>>
>>> Ideally, plant a new one every 3 years in different spots in the
>>> garden.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Thank you Jonno and rainman
>>
>> I was worried that my plant might have contracted some sort of virus
>> thing that would spread through the garden and kill off all my
>> best-loved plants, including the new passionfruit on the side fence.
>>
>> To answer your question Jonno - I'm in Melbourne, and I guess the dear
>> old vine had a bit of a tough life - in two years I think it must have
>> produced enough fruit to supply all the pavlova and sponge makers of
>> the southern hemisphere for a decade. Perhaps it's just exhausted.
>>
>> I'm sad that my incredibly fruity vine has reached the end of its
>> (short) life, but gosh that's a lot better than having my whole garden
>> succumb to a horrible-unstoppable-plant-killing-virus-from-hell.
>>
>> Thanks again, I really do appreciate your help.
>>
>> Cath
>>
> I Had to prune my unstoppable vine, some trailing vines were cut and I
> got a scolding from the "one that must be obeyed" Because the leaves
> started to die. Not surprisingly I copped a blast. AT least I can get to
> the garden shed and beyond now!!


Now you're just bragging.

I have to confess, I'm on the side of She. My husband would have copped
a blast from me too if he'd messed with my passionfruit vine.

When I had a passionfruit vine.

Sob.

So, can you recommend a variety of passionfruit that lasts a little
longer than the nellie kelly? I know passionfruit vines don't last for
ever, but a couple of bumper harvests followed by a dramatic death just
isn't enough for me.

HailtotheDuck wrote:
> Jonno wrote:
>
>> HailtotheDuck wrote:
>>
>>> rainman [at] mailinator.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 15:06:34 +1100, HailtotheDuck
>>>> <cath [at] ducknet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello there
>>>>>
>>>>> I have had an extremely happy nellie kelly vine that I planted
>>>>> about four years ago, and for the last two years we have been able
>>>>> to supply passionfruit by the boxful to all of our neighbours and
>>>>> friends. About two weeks ago a section of it started to wilt and
>>>>> turn brown and the unripe fruit puckered up and dropped off, and
>>>>> now most of the vine is turning up its toes.
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems to have a bit of a powdery grey thing happening on some of
>>>>> the stems and fruit, but the leaves seem to look ok, right up to
>>>>> the moment when they wilt and die.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know what is happening? Is there anything I can do to
>>>>> save the rest of the vine? And is there any way I can prevent
>>>>> whatever-it-is from killing off the other passionfruit vine round
>>>>> the side of the house?
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas or advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nellie Kelly is only goo for 4 or 5 years.
>>>>
>>>> Ideally, plant a new one every 3 years in different spots in the
>>>> garden.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Thank you Jonno and rainman
>>>
>>> I was worried that my plant might have contracted some sort of virus
>>> thing that would spread through the garden and kill off all my
>>> best-loved plants, including the new passionfruit on the side fence.
>>>
>>> To answer your question Jonno - I'm in Melbourne, and I guess the
>>> dear old vine had a bit of a tough life - in two years I think it
>>> must have produced enough fruit to supply all the pavlova and sponge
>>> makers of the southern hemisphere for a decade. Perhaps it's just
>>> exhausted.
>>>
>>> I'm sad that my incredibly fruity vine has reached the end of its
>>> (short) life, but gosh that's a lot better than having my whole
>>> garden succumb to a horrible-unstoppable-plant-killing-virus-from-hell.
>>>
>>> Thanks again, I really do appreciate your help.
>>>
>>> Cath
>>>
>> I Had to prune my unstoppable vine, some trailing vines were cut and I
>> got a scolding from the "one that must be obeyed" Because the leaves
>> started to die. Not surprisingly I copped a blast. AT least I can get
>> to the garden shed and beyond now!!
>
>
>
> Now you're just bragging.
>
> I have to confess, I'm on the side of She. My husband would have copped
> a blast from me too if he'd messed with my passionfruit vine.
>
> When I had a passionfruit vine.
>
> Sob.
>
> So, can you recommend a variety of passionfruit that lasts a little
> longer than the nellie kelly? I know passionfruit vines don't last for
> ever, but a couple of bumper harvests followed by a dramatic death just
> isn't enough for me.
Now you know why its called a passion fruit tree.
I need to get to my shed so I can get some peace from "she"
"She" reckoned the passion fruit "vine" has been messed about much too
much and were not talking about the one that lasts 5/7 years.
If I were you, I'd grow one from seed. Never mind the grafted variety.
Just use a few seeds from the vine.
Its always hype. (You didnt eat them all did you?) Ours grew from seed
and was never grafted allong side a plant from a nursery.
This year things in my yard are growing so fast we had to put a "stop"
sign in the garden so "she" wont use the garden paths. Pumpkins went
rampant, grass cant be cut, its a jungle.
When I brag its about things its because fowl manure allows me too.
The rains have been regular. That also helps.
What is it about doing a bit of light trimming? It neve kills anything,
and allows you to regulate plants and in most cases makes it grow better
anyway. The few deads vines are no problem. Dont be such a sissy. Real
men cut and slash. They have created the conditions to do so. I may have
to get the whip out yet and say to the vine "one more step and you die"
Never let em get the upper hand
That always gets 'em. I show em the ZERO too.
O dear, time for the valium to start kicking in. I'm high on plants.....

Jonno wrote:
> HailtotheDuck wrote:
>
>> Jonno wrote:
>>
>>> HailtotheDuck wrote:
>>>
>>>> rainman [at] mailinator.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 15:06:34 +1100, HailtotheDuck
>>>>> <cath [at] ducknet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello there
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have had an extremely happy nellie kelly vine that I planted
>>>>>> about four years ago, and for the last two years we have been able
>>>>>> to supply passionfruit by the boxful to all of our neighbours and
>>>>>> friends. About two weeks ago a section of it started to wilt and
>>>>>> turn brown and the unripe fruit puckered up and dropped off, and
>>>>>> now most of the vine is turning up its toes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems to have a bit of a powdery grey thing happening on some
>>>>>> of the stems and fruit, but the leaves seem to look ok, right up
>>>>>> to the moment when they wilt and die.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone know what is happening? Is there anything I can do to
>>>>>> save the rest of the vine? And is there any way I can prevent
>>>>>> whatever-it-is from killing off the other passionfruit vine round
>>>>>> the side of the house?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any ideas or advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Nellie Kelly is only goo for 4 or 5 years.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ideally, plant a new one every 3 years in different spots in the
>>>>> garden.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Thank you Jonno and rainman
>>>>
>>>> I was worried that my plant might have contracted some sort of virus
>>>> thing that would spread through the garden and kill off all my
>>>> best-loved plants, including the new passionfruit on the side fence.
>>>>
>>>> To answer your question Jonno - I'm in Melbourne, and I guess the
>>>> dear old vine had a bit of a tough life - in two years I think it
>>>> must have produced enough fruit to supply all the pavlova and sponge
>>>> makers of the southern hemisphere for a decade. Perhaps it's just
>>>> exhausted.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sad that my incredibly fruity vine has reached the end of its
>>>> (short) life, but gosh that's a lot better than having my whole
>>>> garden succumb to a horrible-unstoppable-plant-killing-virus-from-hell.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again, I really do appreciate your help.
>>>>
>>>> Cath
>>>>
>>> I Had to prune my unstoppable vine, some trailing vines were cut and
>>> I got a scolding from the "one that must be obeyed" Because the
>>> leaves started to die. Not surprisingly I copped a blast. AT least I
>>> can get to the garden shed and beyond now!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Now you're just bragging.
>>
>> I have to confess, I'm on the side of She. My husband would have
>> copped a blast from me too if he'd messed with my passionfruit vine.
>>
>> When I had a passionfruit vine.
>>
>> Sob.
>>
>> So, can you recommend a variety of passionfruit that lasts a little
>> longer than the nellie kelly? I know passionfruit vines don't last for
>> ever, but a couple of bumper harvests followed by a dramatic death
>> just isn't enough for me.
>
> Now you know why its called a passion fruit tree.
> I need to get to my shed so I can get some peace from "she"
> "She" reckoned the passion fruit "vine" has been messed about much too
> much and were not talking about the one that lasts 5/7 years.
> If I were you, I'd grow one from seed. Never mind the grafted
> variety. Just use a few seeds from the vine.
> Its always hype. (You didnt eat them all did you?) Ours grew from seed
> and was never grafted allong side a plant from a nursery.
> This year things in my yard are growing so fast we had to put a "stop"
> sign in the garden so "she" wont use the garden paths. Pumpkins went
> rampant, grass cant be cut, its a jungle.
> When I brag its about things its because fowl manure allows me too.
> The rains have been regular. That also helps.
> What is it about doing a bit of light trimming? It neve kills
> anything, and allows you to regulate plants and in most cases makes it
> grow better anyway. The few deads vines are no problem. Dont be such a
> sissy. Real men cut and slash. They have created the conditions to do
> so. I may have to get the whip out yet and say to the vine "one more
> step and you die" Never let em get the upper hand
> That always gets 'em. I show em the ZERO too.
> O dear, time for the valium to start kicking in. I'm high on plants.....


So let me get this straight... "She" keeps Jonno in line inside the
house, and then Jonno gets out in the garden and lets out his
testosterone on the plants, just to make sure they know who's boss.

It sounds like "she" has the chain of command pretty well organised at
your place.

You're quite right of course, a bit of trimming would make a world of
difference to my garden. Except for the (late lamented) passionfruit
everything in growing like crazy, and I expect there are whole families
of jungle hyenas and wildebeests living behind the asparagus patch.

I'm obviously not enough of a real man. Though I expect my husband
prefers it that way.

HailtotheDuck wrote:
> Jonno wrote:
>
>> HailtotheDuck wrote:
>>
>>> Jonno wrote:
>>>
>>>> HailtotheDuck wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> rainman [at] mailinator.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 15:06:34 +1100, HailtotheDuck
>>>>>> <cath [at] ducknet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello there
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have had an extremely happy nellie kelly vine that I planted
>>>>>>> about four years ago, and for the last two years we have been
>>>>>>> able to supply passionfruit by the boxful to all of our
>>>>>>> neighbours and friends. About two weeks ago a section of it
>>>>>>> started to wilt and turn brown and the unripe fruit puckered up
>>>>>>> and dropped off, and now most of the vine is turning up its toes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It seems to have a bit of a powdery grey thing happening on some
>>>>>>> of the stems and fruit, but the leaves seem to look ok, right up
>>>>>>> to the moment when they wilt and die.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does anyone know what is happening? Is there anything I can do
>>>>>>> to save the rest of the vine? And is there any way I can prevent
>>>>>>> whatever-it-is from killing off the other passionfruit vine round
>>>>>>> the side of the house?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any ideas or advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nellie Kelly is only goo for 4 or 5 years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ideally, plant a new one every 3 years in different spots in the
>>>>>> garden.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you Jonno and rainman
>>>>>
>>>>> I was worried that my plant might have contracted some sort of
>>>>> virus thing that would spread through the garden and kill off all
>>>>> my best-loved plants, including the new passionfruit on the side
>>>>> fence.
>>>>>
>>>>> To answer your question Jonno - I'm in Melbourne, and I guess the
>>>>> dear old vine had a bit of a tough life - in two years I think it
>>>>> must have produced enough fruit to supply all the pavlova and
>>>>> sponge makers of the southern hemisphere for a decade. Perhaps it's
>>>>> just exhausted.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sad that my incredibly fruity vine has reached the end of its
>>>>> (short) life, but gosh that's a lot better than having my whole
>>>>> garden succumb to a
>>>>> horrible-unstoppable-plant-killing-virus-from-hell.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again, I really do appreciate your help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cath
>>>>>
>>>> I Had to prune my unstoppable vine, some trailing vines were cut and
>>>> I got a scolding from the "one that must be obeyed" Because the
>>>> leaves started to die. Not surprisingly I copped a blast. AT least I
>>>> can get to the garden shed and beyond now!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Now you're just bragging.
>>>
>>> I have to confess, I'm on the side of She. My husband would have
>>> copped a blast from me too if he'd messed with my passionfruit vine.
>>>
>>> When I had a passionfruit vine.
>>>
>>> Sob.
>>>
>>> So, can you recommend a variety of passionfruit that lasts a little
>>> longer than the nellie kelly? I know passionfruit vines don't last
>>> for ever, but a couple of bumper harvests followed by a dramatic
>>> death just isn't enough for me.
>>
>>
>> Now you know why its called a passion fruit tree.
>> I need to get to my shed so I can get some peace from "she"
>> "She" reckoned the passion fruit "vine" has been messed about much too
>> much and were not talking about the one that lasts 5/7 years.
>> If I were you, I'd grow one from seed. Never mind the grafted
>> variety. Just use a few seeds from the vine.
>> Its always hype. (You didnt eat them all did you?) Ours grew from seed
>> and was never grafted allong side a plant from a nursery.
>> This year things in my yard are growing so fast we had to put a "stop"
>> sign in the garden so "she" wont use the garden paths. Pumpkins went
>> rampant, grass cant be cut, its a jungle.
>> When I brag its about things its because fowl manure allows me too.
>> The rains have been regular. That also helps.
>> What is it about doing a bit of light trimming? It neve kills
>> anything, and allows you to regulate plants and in most cases makes it
>> grow better anyway. The few deads vines are no problem. Dont be such a
>> sissy. Real men cut and slash. They have created the conditions to do
>> so. I may have to get the whip out yet and say to the vine "one more
>> step and you die" Never let em get the upper hand
>> That always gets 'em. I show em the ZERO too.
>> O dear, time for the valium to start kicking in. I'm high on plants.....
>
>
>
> So let me get this straight... "She" keeps Jonno in line inside the
> house, and then Jonno gets out in the garden and lets out his
> testosterone on the plants, just to make sure they know who's boss.
>
> It sounds like "she" has the chain of command pretty well organised at
> your place.
>
> You're quite right of course, a bit of trimming would make a world of
> difference to my garden. Except for the (late lamented) passionfruit
> everything in growing like crazy, and I expect there are whole families
> of jungle hyenas and wildebeests living behind the asparagus patch.
>
> I'm obviously not enough of a real man. Though I expect my husband
> prefers it that way.
Oh hell my secrets out.
No I try to please "her" but common sense gets in the way, like it should.
You cant have your mates over otherwise...Burn and slash but "do no
harm" is out motto."
They all whinge about their passion fruits having died on the vine.
A bit of trimming could see all their love lives turn around.
Of course, when youre ninety like me, its really doesnt matter much.
A good slash never hurt anyone. I worry the nurses a bit though when I
stare at then through the ward window at 2 oclock in the morning...
Geez can they run....They reckon Ive got alzheimeres but I can remember
when I used to er be able to spell azlheememmemrs. Bugger
me spellcheckers also got asl bugger gone awol!
























































I lied im 59 but a good storyteller

Jonno wrote:
> HailtotheDuck wrote:
>
>> Jonno wrote:
>>
>>> HailtotheDuck wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jonno wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> HailtotheDuck wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> rainman [at] mailinator.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 15:06:34 +1100, HailtotheDuck
>>>>>>> <cath [at] ducknet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello there
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have had an extremely happy nellie kelly vine that I planted
>>>>>>>> about four years ago, and for the last two years we have been
>>>>>>>> able to supply passionfruit by the boxful to all of our
>>>>>>>> neighbours and friends. About two weeks ago a section of it
>>>>>>>> started to wilt and turn brown and the unripe fruit puckered up
>>>>>>>> and dropped off, and now most of the vine is turning up its toes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It seems to have a bit of a powdery grey thing happening on some
>>>>>>>> of the stems and fruit, but the leaves seem to look ok, right up
>>>>>>>> to the moment when they wilt and die.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Does anyone know what is happening? Is there anything I can do
>>>>>>>> to save the rest of the vine? And is there any way I can prevent
>>>>>>>> whatever-it-is from killing off the other passionfruit vine
>>>>>>>> round the side of the house?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any ideas or advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nellie Kelly is only goo for 4 or 5 years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ideally, plant a new one every 3 years in different spots in the
>>>>>>> garden.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you Jonno and rainman
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was worried that my plant might have contracted some sort of
>>>>>> virus thing that would spread through the garden and kill off all
>>>>>> my best-loved plants, including the new passionfruit on the side
>>>>>> fence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To answer your question Jonno - I'm in Melbourne, and I guess the
>>>>>> dear old vine had a bit of a tough life - in two years I think it
>>>>>> must have produced enough fruit to supply all the pavlova and
>>>>>> sponge makers of the southern hemisphere for a decade. Perhaps
>>>>>> it's just exhausted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sad that my incredibly fruity vine has reached the end of its
>>>>>> (short) life, but gosh that's a lot better than having my whole
>>>>>> garden succumb to a
>>>>>> horrible-unstoppable-plant-killing-virus-from-hell.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks again, I really do appreciate your help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cath
>>>>>>
>>>>> I Had to prune my unstoppable vine, some trailing vines were cut
>>>>> and I got a scolding from the "one that must be obeyed" Because
>>>>> the leaves started to die. Not surprisingly I copped a blast. AT
>>>>> least I can get to the garden shed and beyond now!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Now you're just bragging.
>>>>
>>>> I have to confess, I'm on the side of She. My husband would have
>>>> copped a blast from me too if he'd messed with my passionfruit vine.
>>>>
>>>> When I had a passionfruit vine.
>>>>
>>>> Sob.
>>>>
>>>> So, can you recommend a variety of passionfruit that lasts a little
>>>> longer than the nellie kelly? I know passionfruit vines don't last
>>>> for ever, but a couple of bumper harvests followed by a dramatic
>>>> death just isn't enough for me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Now you know why its called a passion fruit tree.
>>> I need to get to my shed so I can get some peace from "she"
>>> "She" reckoned the passion fruit "vine" has been messed about much
>>> too much and were not talking about the one that lasts 5/7 years.
>>> If I were you, I'd grow one from seed. Never mind the grafted
>>> variety. Just use a few seeds from the vine.
>>> Its always hype. (You didnt eat them all did you?) Ours grew from
>>> seed and was never grafted allong side a plant from a nursery.
>>> This year things in my yard are growing so fast we had to put a
>>> "stop" sign in the garden so "she" wont use the garden paths.
>>> Pumpkins went rampant, grass cant be cut, its a jungle.
>>> When I brag its about things its because fowl manure allows me too.
>>> The rains have been regular. That also helps.
>>> What is it about doing a bit of light trimming? It neve kills
>>> anything, and allows you to regulate plants and in most cases makes
>>> it grow better anyway. The few deads vines are no problem. Dont be
>>> such a sissy. Real men cut and slash. They have created the
>>> conditions to do so. I may have to get the whip out yet and say to
>>> the vine "one more step and you die" Never let em get the upper hand
>>> That always gets 'em. I show em the ZERO too.
>>> O dear, time for the valium to start kicking in. I'm high on plants.....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> So let me get this straight... "She" keeps Jonno in line inside the
>> house, and then Jonno gets out in the garden and lets out his
>> testosterone on the plants, just to make sure they know who's boss.
>>
>> It sounds like "she" has the chain of command pretty well organised at
>> your place.
>>
>> You're quite right of course, a bit of trimming would make a world of
>> difference to my garden. Except for the (late lamented) passionfruit
>> everything in growing like crazy, and I expect there are whole
>> families of jungle hyenas and wildebeests living behind the asparagus
>> patch.
>>
>> I'm obviously not enough of a real man. Though I expect my husband
>> prefers it that way.
>
> Oh hell my secrets out.
> No I try to please "her" but common sense gets in the way, like it should.
> You cant have your mates over otherwise...Burn and slash but "do no
> harm" is out motto."
> They all whinge about their passion fruits having died on the vine.
> A bit of trimming could see all their love lives turn around.
> Of course, when youre ninety like me, its really doesnt matter much.
> A good slash never hurt anyone. I worry the nurses a bit though when I
> stare at then through the ward window at 2 oclock in the morning...
> Geez can they run....They reckon Ive got alzheimeres but I can remember
> when I used to er be able to spell azlheememmemrs. Bugger
> me spellcheckers also got asl bugger gone awol!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I lied im 59 but a good storyteller


Mmmm... I expect those nurses might have a thing or two to say if you
came at them with the secateurs. Or the ZERO.

Even if you promised it'd turn their love lives around.

HailtotheDuck wrote:
> Jonno wrote:
>
>> HailtotheDuck wrote:
>>
>>> Jonno wrote:
>>>
>>>> HailtotheDuck wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jonno wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> HailtotheDuck wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> rainman [at] mailinator.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 15:06:34 +1100, HailtotheDuck
>>>>>>>> <cath [at] ducknet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello there
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have had an extremely happy nellie kelly vine that I planted
>>>>>>>>> about four years ago, and for the last two years we have been
>>>>>>>>> able to supply passionfruit by the boxful to all of our
>>>>>>>>> neighbours and friends. About two weeks ago a section of it
>>>>>>>>> started to wilt and turn brown and the unripe fruit puckered up
>>>>>>>>> and dropped off, and now most of the vine is turning up its toes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It seems to have a bit of a powdery grey thing happening on
>>>>>>>>> some of the stems and fruit, but the leaves seem to look ok,
>>>>>>>>> right up to the moment when they wilt and die.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know what is happening? Is there anything I can do
>>>>>>>>> to save the rest of the vine? And is there any way I can
>>>>>>>>> prevent whatever-it-is from killing off the other passionfruit
>>>>>>>>> vine round the side of the house?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any ideas or advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nellie Kelly is only goo for 4 or 5 years.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ideally, plant a new one every 3 years in different spots in
>>>>>>>> the garden.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you Jonno and rainman
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was worried that my plant might have contracted some sort of
>>>>>>> virus thing that would spread through the garden and kill off all
>>>>>>> my best-loved plants, including the new passionfruit on the side
>>>>>>> fence.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To answer your question Jonno - I'm in Melbourne, and I guess the
>>>>>>> dear old vine had a bit of a tough life - in two years I think it
>>>>>>> must have produced enough fruit to supply all the pavlova and
>>>>>>> sponge makers of the southern hemisphere for a decade. Perhaps
>>>>>>> it's just exhausted.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm sad that my incredibly fruity vine has reached the end of its
>>>>>>> (short) life, but gosh that's a lot better than having my whole
>>>>>>> garden succumb to a
>>>>>>> horrible-unstoppable-plant-killing-virus-from-hell.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks again, I really do appreciate your help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cath
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I Had to prune my unstoppable vine, some trailing vines were cut
>>>>>> and I got a scolding from the "one that must be obeyed" Because
>>>>>> the leaves started to die. Not surprisingly I copped a blast. AT
>>>>>> least I can get to the garden shed and beyond now!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Now you're just bragging.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have to confess, I'm on the side of She. My husband would have
>>>>> copped a blast from me too if he'd messed with my passionfruit vine.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I had a passionfruit vine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sob.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, can you recommend a variety of passionfruit that lasts a little
>>>>> longer than the nellie kelly? I know passionfruit vines don't last
>>>>> for ever, but a couple of bumper harvests followed by a dramatic
>>>>> death just isn't enough for me.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Now you know why its called a passion fruit tree.
>>>> I need to get to my shed so I can get some peace from "she"
>>>> "She" reckoned the passion fruit "vine" has been messed about much
>>>> too much and were not talking about the one that lasts 5/7 years.
>>>> If I were you, I'd grow one from seed. Never mind the grafted
>>>> variety. Just use a few seeds from the vine.
>>>> Its always hype. (You didnt eat them all did you?) Ours grew from
>>>> seed and was never grafted allong side a plant from a nursery.
>>>> This year things in my yard are growing so fast we had to put a
>>>> "stop" sign in the garden so "she" wont use the garden paths.
>>>> Pumpkins went rampant, grass cant be cut, its a jungle.
>>>> When I brag its about things its because fowl manure allows me too.
>>>> The rains have been regular. That also helps.
>>>> What is it about doing a bit of light trimming? It neve kills
>>>> anything, and allows you to regulate plants and in most cases makes
>>>> it grow better anyway. The few deads vines are no problem. Dont be
>>>> such a sissy. Real men cut and slash. They have created the
>>>> conditions to do so. I may have to get the whip out yet and say to
>>>> the vine "one more step and you die" Never let em get the upper hand
>>>> That always gets 'em. I show em the ZERO too.
>>>> O dear, time for the valium to start kicking in. I'm high on
>>>> plants.....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So let me get this straight... "She" keeps Jonno in line inside the
>>> house, and then Jonno gets out in the garden and lets out his
>>> testosterone on the plants, just to make sure they know who's boss.
>>>
>>> It sounds like "she" has the chain of command pretty well organised
>>> at your place.
>>>
>>> You're quite right of course, a bit of trimming would make a world of
>>> difference to my garden. Except for the (late lamented) passionfruit
>>> everything in growing like crazy, and I expect there are whole
>>> families of jungle hyenas and wildebeests living behind the asparagus
>>> patch.
>>>
>>> I'm obviously not enough of a real man. Though I expect my husband
>>> prefers it that way.
>>
>>
>> Oh hell my secrets out.
>> No I try to please "her" but common sense gets in the way, like it
>> should.
>> You cant have your mates over otherwise...Burn and slash but "do no
>> harm" is out motto."
>> They all whinge about their passion fruits having died on the vine.
>> A bit of trimming could see all their love lives turn around.
>> Of course, when youre ninety like me, its really doesnt matter much.
>> A good slash never hurt anyone. I worry the nurses a bit though when I
>> stare at then through the ward window at 2 oclock in the morning...
>> Geez can they run....They reckon Ive got alzheimeres but I can
>> remember when I used to er be able to spell
>> azlheememmemrs. Bugger me spellcheckers also got asl bugger gone awol!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I lied im 59 but a good storyteller
>
>
>
> Mmmm... I expect those nurses might have a thing or two to say if you
> came at them with the secateurs. Or the ZERO.
>
> Even if you promised it'd turn their love lives around.
>
Yeah I reckon. Anyway were off topic...
You might like the love lives of passion fruit onvine er online...
http://www.passionfruit.org.nz/Intending_growers.htm

Its a professional growers site. But full of goodness.....
Found this by googling online

Jonno wrote:
> HailtotheDuck wrote:
>
>> Jonno wrote:
>>
>>> HailtotheDuck wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jonno wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> HailtotheDuck wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jonno wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HailtotheDuck wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> rainman [at] mailinator.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 15:06:34 +1100, HailtotheDuck
>>>>>>>>> <cath [at] ducknet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello there
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have had an extremely happy nellie kelly vine that I planted
>>>>>>>>>> about four years ago, and for the last two years we have been
>>>>>>>>>> able to supply passionfruit by the boxful to all of our
>>>>>>>>>> neighbours and friends. About two weeks ago a section of it
>>>>>>>>>> started to wilt and turn brown and the unripe fruit puckered
>>>>>>>>>> up and dropped off, and now most of the vine is turning up its
>>>>>>>>>> toes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It seems to have a bit of a powdery grey thing happening on
>>>>>>>>>> some of the stems and fruit, but the leaves seem to look ok,
>>>>>>>>>> right up to the moment when they wilt and die.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know what is happening? Is there anything I can
>>>>>>>>>> do to save the rest of the vine? And is there any way I can
>>>>>>>>>> prevent whatever-it-is from killing off the other passionfruit
>>>>>>>>>> vine round the side of the house?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas or advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nellie Kelly is only goo for 4 or 5 years.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ideally, plant a new one every 3 years in different spots in
>>>>>>>>> the garden.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you Jonno and rainman
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was worried that my plant might have contracted some sort of
>>>>>>>> virus thing that would spread through the garden and kill off
>>>>>>>> all my best-loved plants, including the new passionfruit on the
>>>>>>>> side fence.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To answer your question Jonno - I'm in Melbourne, and I guess
>>>>>>>> the dear old vine had a bit of a tough life - in two years I
>>>>>>>> think it must have produced enough fruit to supply all the
>>>>>>>> pavlova and sponge makers of the southern hemisphere for a
>>>>>>>> decade. Perhaps it's just exhausted.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm sad that my incredibly fruity vine has reached the end of
>>>>>>>> its (short) life, but gosh that's a lot better than having my
>>>>>>>> whole garden succumb to a
>>>>>>>> horrible-unstoppable-plant-killing-virus-from-hell.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks again, I really do appreciate your help.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cath
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I Had to prune my unstoppable vine, some trailing vines were cut
>>>>>>> and I got a scolding from the "one that must be obeyed" Because
>>>>>>> the leaves started to die. Not surprisingly I copped a blast. AT
>>>>>>> least I can get to the garden shed and beyond now!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now you're just bragging.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have to confess, I'm on the side of She. My husband would have
>>>>>> copped a blast from me too if he'd messed with my passionfruit vine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I had a passionfruit vine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sob.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, can you recommend a variety of passionfruit that lasts a
>>>>>> little longer than the nellie kelly? I know passionfruit vines
>>>>>> don't last for ever, but a couple of bumper harvests followed by a
>>>>>> dramatic death just isn't enough for me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Now you know why its called a passion fruit tree.
>>>>> I need to get to my shed so I can get some peace from "she"
>>>>> "She" reckoned the passion fruit "vine" has been messed about much
>>>>> too much and were not talking about the one that lasts 5/7 years.
>>>>> If I were you, I'd grow one from seed. Never mind the grafted
>>>>> variety. Just use a few seeds from the vine.
>>>>> Its always hype. (You didnt eat them all did you?) Ours grew from
>>>>> seed and was never grafted allong side a plant from a nursery.
>>>>> This year things in my yard are growing so fast we had to put a
>>>>> "stop" sign in the garden so "she" wont use the garden paths.
>>>>> Pumpkins went rampant, grass cant be cut, its a jungle.
>>>>> When I brag its about things its because fowl manure allows me too.
>>>>> The rains have been regular. That also helps.
>>>>> What is it about doing a bit of light trimming? It neve kills
>>>>> anything, and allows you to regulate plants and in most cases makes
>>>>> it grow better anyway. The few deads vines are no problem. Dont be
>>>>> such a sissy. Real men cut and slash. They have created the
>>>>> conditions to do so. I may have to get the whip out yet and say to
>>>>> the vine "one more step and you die" Never let em get the upper hand
>>>>> That always gets 'em. I show em the ZERO too.
>>>>> O dear, time for the valium to start kicking in. I'm high on
>>>>> plants.....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So let me get this straight... "She" keeps Jonno in line inside the
>>>> house, and then Jonno gets out in the garden and lets out his
>>>> testosterone on the plants, just to make sure they know who's boss.
>>>>
>>>> It sounds like "she" has the chain of command pretty well organised
>>>> at your place.
>>>>
>>>> You're quite right of course, a bit of trimming would make a world
>>>> of difference to my garden. Except for the (late lamented)
>>>> passionfruit everything in growing like crazy, and I expect there
>>>> are whole families of jungle hyenas and wildebeests living behind
>>>> the asparagus patch.
>>>>
>>>> I'm obviously not enough of a real man. Though I expect my husband
>>>> prefers it that way.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh hell my secrets out.
>>> No I try to please "her" but common sense gets in the way, like it
>>> should.
>>> You cant have your mates over otherwise...Burn and slash but "do no
>>> harm" is out motto."
>>> They all whinge about their passion fruits having died on the vine.
>>> A bit of trimming could see all their love lives turn around.
>>> Of course, when youre ninety like me, its really doesnt matter much.
>>> A good slash never hurt anyone. I worry the nurses a bit though when
>>> I stare at then through the ward window at 2 oclock in the morning...
>>> Geez can they run....They reckon Ive got alzheimeres but I can
>>> remember when I used to er be able to spell
>>> azlheememmemrs. Bugger me spellcheckers also got asl bugger gone awol!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I lied im 59 but a good storyteller
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Mmmm... I expect those nurses might have a thing or two to say if you
>> came at them with the secateurs. Or the ZERO.
>>
>> Even if you promised it'd turn their love lives around.
>>
> Yeah I reckon. Anyway were off topic...
> You might like the love lives of passion fruit onvine er online...
> http://www.passionfruit.org.nz/Intending_growers.htm
>
> Its a professional growers site. But full of goodness.....
> Found this by googling online



Thank you Jonno, lots of good stuff for me on that site. I shall do lots
of exploring, and then I shall find a way to grow the un-killable,
un-stoppable, un-beatable passionfruit. Then I might even be able to
brag to you.

I apologise for going off topic. All right... way - - - off topic.

I'm new to newsgroups, I don't know the rules. But I'm learning.

Cath

HailtotheDuck wrote:
> Jonno wrote:
>
>> HailtotheDuck wrote:
>>
>>> Jonno wrote:
>>>
>>>> HailtotheDuck wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jonno wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> HailtotheDuck wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jonno wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> HailtotheDuck wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> rainman [at] mailinator.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 15:06:34 +1100, HailtotheDuck
>>>>>>>>>> <cath [at] ducknet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello there
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have had an extremely happy nellie kelly vine that I
>>>>>>>>>>> planted about four years ago, and for the last two years we
>>>>>>>>>>> have been able to supply passionfruit by the boxful to all of
>>>>>>>>>>> our neighbours and friends. About two weeks ago a section of
>>>>>>>>>>> it started to wilt and turn brown and the unripe fruit
>>>>>>>>>>> puckered up and dropped off, and now most of the vine is
>>>>>>>>>>> turning up its toes.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It seems to have a bit of a powdery grey thing happening on
>>>>>>>>>>> some of the stems and fruit, but the leaves seem to look ok,
>>>>>>>>>>> right up to the moment when they wilt and die.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know what is happening? Is there anything I can
>>>>>>>>>>> do to save the rest of the vine? And is there any way I can
>>>>>>>>>>> prevent whatever-it-is from killing off the other
>>>>>>>>>>> passionfruit vine round the side of the house?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas or advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nellie Kelly is only goo for 4 or 5 years.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ideally, plant a new one every 3 years in different spots in
>>>>>>>>>> the garden.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you Jonno and rainman
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I was worried that my plant might have contracted some sort of
>>>>>>>>> virus thing that would spread through the garden and kill off
>>>>>>>>> all my best-loved plants, including the new passionfruit on the
>>>>>>>>> side fence.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To answer your question Jonno - I'm in Melbourne, and I guess
>>>>>>>>> the dear old vine had a bit of a tough life - in two years I
>>>>>>>>> think it must have produced enough fruit to supply all the
>>>>>>>>> pavlova and sponge makers of the southern hemisphere for a
>>>>>>>>> decade. Perhaps it's just exhausted.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm sad that my incredibly fruity vine has reached the end of
>>>>>>>>> its (short) life, but gosh that's a lot better than having my
>>>>>>>>> whole garden succumb to a
>>>>>>>>> horrible-unstoppable-plant-killing-virus-from-hell.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks again, I really do appreciate your help.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cath
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I Had to prune my unstoppable vine, some trailing vines were cut
>>>>>>>> and I got a scolding from the "one that must be obeyed" Because
>>>>>>>> the leaves started to die. Not surprisingly I copped a blast. AT
>>>>>>>> least I can get to the garden shed and beyond now!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now you're just bragging.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have to confess, I'm on the side of She. My husband would have
>>>>>>> copped a blast from me too if he'd messed with my passionfruit vine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I had a passionfruit vine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sob.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, can you recommend a variety of passionfruit that lasts a
>>>>>>> little longer than the nellie kelly? I know passionfruit vines
>>>>>>> don't last for ever, but a couple of bumper harvests followed by
>>>>>>> a dramatic death just isn't enough for me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now you know why its called a passion fruit tree.
>>>>>> I need to get to my shed so I can get some peace from "she"
>>>>>> "She" reckoned the passion fruit "vine" has been messed about much
>>>>>> too much and were not talking about the one that lasts 5/7 years.
>>>>>> If I were you, I'd grow one from seed. Never mind the grafted
>>>>>> variety. Just use a few seeds from the vine.
>>>>>> Its always hype. (You didnt eat them all did you?) Ours grew from
>>>>>> seed and was never grafted allong side a plant from a nursery.
>>>>>> This year things in my yard are growing so fast we had to put a
>>>>>> "stop" sign in the garden so "she" wont use the garden paths.
>>>>>> Pumpkins went rampant, grass cant be cut, its a jungle.
>>>>>> When I brag its about things its because fowl manure allows me too.
>>>>>> The rains have been regular. That also helps.
>>>>>> What is it about doing a bit of light trimming? It neve kills
>>>>>> anything, and allows you to regulate plants and in most cases
>>>>>> makes it grow better anyway. The few deads vines are no problem.
>>>>>> Dont be such a sissy. Real men cut and slash. They have created
>>>>>> the conditions to do so. I may have to get the whip out yet and
>>>>>> say to the vine "one more step and you die" Never let em get the
>>>>>> upper hand
>>>>>> That always gets 'em. I show em the ZERO too.
>>>>>> O dear, time for the valium to start kicking in. I'm high on
>>>>>> plants.....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So let me get this straight... "She" keeps Jonno in line inside the
>>>>> house, and then Jonno gets out in the garden and lets out his
>>>>> testosterone on the plants, just to make sure they know who's boss.
>>>>>
>>>>> It sounds like "she" has the chain of command pretty well organised
>>>>> at your place.
>>>>>
>>>>> You're quite right of course, a bit of trimming would make a world
>>>>> of difference to my garden. Except for the (late lamented)
>>>>> passionfruit everything in growing like crazy, and I expect there
>>>>> are whole families of jungle hyenas and wildebeests living behind
>>>>> the asparagus patch.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm obviously not enough of a real man. Though I expect my husband
>>>>> prefers it that way.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Oh hell my secrets out.
>>>> No I try to please "her" but common sense gets in the way, like it
>>>> should.
>>>> You cant have your mates over otherwise...Burn and slash but "do no
>>>> harm" is out motto."
>>>> They all whinge about their passion fruits having died on the vine.
>>>> A bit of trimming could see all their love lives turn around.
>>>> Of course, when youre ninety like me, its really doesnt matter much.
>>>> A good slash never hurt anyone. I worry the nurses a bit though when
>>>> I stare at then through the ward window at 2 oclock in the morning...
>>>> Geez can they run....They reckon Ive got alzheimeres but I can
>>>> remember when I used to er be able to spell
>>>> azlheememmemrs. Bugger me spellcheckers also got asl bugger gone awol!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I lied im 59 but a good storyteller
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mmmm... I expect those nurses might have a thing or two to say if you
>>> came at them with the secateurs. Or the ZERO.
>>>
>>> Even if you promised it'd turn their love lives around.
>>>
>> Yeah I reckon. Anyway were off topic...
>> You might like the love lives of passion fruit onvine er online...
>> http://www.passionfruit.org.nz/Intending_growers.htm
>>
>> Its a professional growers site. But full of goodness.....
>> Found this by googling online
>
>
>
>
> Thank you Jonno, lots of good stuff for me on that site. I shall do lots
> of exploring, and then I shall find a way to grow the un-killable,
> un-stoppable, un-beatable passionfruit. Then I might even be able to
> brag to you.
>
> I apologise for going off topic. All right... way - - - off topic.
>
> I'm new to newsgroups, I don't know the rules. But I'm learning.
>
> Cath
I did the same, trying to be funny....But google is also a good way. I
lucked out with my passion fruit... I also seem t ohave a feel for whats
required after many years of grwong stuf. Cant stand "latin" plant name
droppers though. Gardening is supposed to be fun. Not an exercise in
mental ability. If you can grow stuff, it should be instinct,
observation and a game of " I can beat his problem"
PS It also tells you how to propagate from seed, and not dried seed but
straight from the vine, and sprouting after 20 days. Guess who's going
to the local market and sell a 1000 of these next spring? at $8.50 a pop

In article <43f5cfe2$0$18699$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au>,
Jonno <aidplus [at] fastamail.thanu.com.au> wrote:

> Cant stand "latin" plant name
> droppers though. Gardening is supposed to be fun. Not an exercise in
> mental ability.

There are reasons for using the scientific names, though: there are three or
so different plants called Black-Eyed Susan and at least two called
Snow-in-Summer. Some plants have more than one common name -- Traveller's
Joy and Old Man's Bard are the same plant, but if I know one common name and
you know the other, we won't be able to help each other. Then there are quite
a number of Australian Natives that don't have common names at all.

--
Chookie -- Sydney, Australia
(Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply)

"... if *I* was buying a baby I'd jolly well make sure it was at
least a two-tooth!"
Mary Grant Bruce, The Houses of the Eagle.

Chookie wrote:
> In article <43f5cfe2$0$18699$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au>,
> Jonno <aidplus [at] fastamail.thanu.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>>Cant stand "latin" plant name
>>droppers though. Gardening is supposed to be fun. Not an exercise in
>>mental ability.
>
>
> There are reasons for using the scientific names, though: there are three or
> so different plants called Black-Eyed Susan and at least two called
> Snow-in-Summer. Some plants have more than one common name -- Traveller's
> Joy and Old Man's Bard are the same plant, but if I know one common name and
> you know the other, we won't be able to help each other. Then there are quite
> a number of Australian Natives that don't have common names at all.
>
Yes I know but there is no need unless you have a need of this.
i just grow 'em eat 'em and plant 'em I dont studu 'em till I need to.
Its OK for Jospeh Banks who was a millionare scientist..

Jonno wrote:
> Cant stand "latin" plant name droppers though.

As was pointed out, there are reasons why knowing the latin name is
necessary., e.g. someone on TV called "Oyster Plants" "Bear Bonnets".

Knowing only the local names can be a trap.

A few cheap books can help in this regard.

Jonno wrote:

> Its OK for Jospeh Banks who was a millionare scientist..

The one on Cooks trips?
That was because the system of scientific names was only just starting
or was many seperate systems. He was one of the people that helped
demonstrate the needs.

Terry Collins wrote:
> Jonno wrote:
>
>
>>Its OK for Jospeh Banks who was a millionare scientist..
>
>
> The one on Cooks trips?
> That was because the system of scientific names was only just starting
> or was many seperate systems. He was one of the people that helped
> demonstrate the needs.
>
>
>
Yeah he's "the man" He was as I see it a great scientist, and able to
afford to be. But I only wanna grow vege's.
A fascinating story if ever there was one.
You noticed they speared cook, not banks
If they knew what banks would be doing later on, they would have left
the cook alone.

Leave the name droppers to the "experts" not the pretend experts you
hear spouting that they know the name of this or that like that radio
station gardening pretender.

In article <43f9bb8e$0$1313$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au>,
Jonno <aidplus [at] fastamail.thanu.com.au> wrote:

> Leave the name droppers to the "experts" not the pretend experts you
> hear spouting that they know the name of this or that like that radio
> station gardening pretender.

LOL -- which one is that?

--
Chookie -- Sydney, Australia
(Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply)

"... if *I* was buying a baby I'd jolly well make sure it was at
least a two-tooth!"
Mary Grant Bruce, The Houses of the Eagle.

In article
<43f9b57d$0$1036$61c65585 [at] un-2park-reader-01.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au>,
Terry Collins <newsonespam-spam [at] woa.com.au> wrote:

> As was pointed out, there are reasons why knowing the latin name is
> necessary., e.g. someone on TV called "Oyster Plants" "Bear Bonnets".

He said Bear's Breeches -- I was watching too! Acanthus mollis. And you need
to know that they're acanthus if you like architecture, because Classical
Greek buildings (and ensuing revivals) used Acanthus as a motif, and they call
it Acanthus, not Oyster Plant or Bear's Breeches!

See pics here:

http://www.meublepeint.com/acanthe.htm

--
Chookie -- Sydney, Australia
(Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply)

"... if *I* was buying a baby I'd jolly well make sure it was at
least a two-tooth!"
Mary Grant Bruce, The Houses of the Eagle.

Chookie wrote:
> In article <43f9bb8e$0$1313$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au>,
> Jonno <aidplus [at] fastamail.thanu.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>>Leave the name droppers to the "experts" not the pretend experts you
>>hear spouting that they know the name of this or that like that radio
>>station gardening pretender.
>
>
> LOL -- which one is that?
>
1278 sunday satday dj
He stil has to git a decent water tank. 300 liters. He's only mentioned
it a million times.
He discovered RADAR (on the internet)and is da wether xpurt
He grinds and waffles and my wife only listens to 'im because of the
lovely accomplice. It urts me ears to hear this garden rabbit.

Chookie wrote:
> In article
> <43f9b57d$0$1036$61c65585 [at] un-2park-reader-01.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au>,
> Terry Collins <newsonespam-spam [at] woa.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>>As was pointed out, there are reasons why knowing the latin name is
>>necessary., e.g. someone on TV called "Oyster Plants" "Bear Bonnets".
>
>
> He said Bear's Breeches -- I was watching too! Acanthus mollis. And you need
> to know that they're acanthus if you like architecture, because Classical
> Greek buildings (and ensuing revivals) used Acanthus as a motif, and they call
> it Acanthus, not Oyster Plant or Bear's Breeches!
>
> See pics here:
>
> http://www.meublepeint.com/acanthe.htm
>
Er any plant with that sorta name aint on my list of desirables.
The confusion on TV is minor compared to the written word.
References to greek buildings while referring to plants isnt a
requirement, unless your hobbies are plants and buildings.
Yes names are important, but I still say unless youre a nursery man, its
not necessary. Mere details.
For scientists and students, its great to know what species, but Ive
found that familiarity with types of plants allows insight into species
which can be quite accurate for home purposes.
Any plant that has a latin name gets zeroed for ease of gardening..