Hi, i live in perth, and we put in scarlet runner beans over this summer

but they havent given of the biggest crop of beans, so we're wondering, if
beans are a
winter vegetable to grow. does anyone know when the prime time for growing
runner beans is in perth?

thanks in advance

"tt" <rightyouare [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi, i live in perth, and we put in scarlet runner beans over this summer
>
> but they havent given of the biggest crop of beans, so we're wondering, if
> beans are a
> winter vegetable to grow. does anyone know when the prime time for growing
> runner beans is in perth?
>
> thanks in advance
>
>
>
Hi Rightyouare,

Best time to plant beans in Perth is after the last frost. Usually this is
in August-September. I have always found that subsequent crops planted after
this date don't do as well. I guess because this is the hottest 3 months.
Although I have planted bean seeds on the 11 February 2006, 2 days before
the full moon. They are healthy and growing well. Hopefully I will enjoy a
good crop.

Throw the scarlett runners you only should grow Westralia Runner Beans these
are the tastiest beans here. I have another type of bean which produces a
black seed. This is a European type that I am told will grow well in the
colder months. So I will try that this year. Broad Beans will be good to
plant in March-April. They like the warmth followed by cold weather.

I always save my own seed and select what I think is the best. If you can't
find any see me as I'll swap them for something.

Have fun.

Richard
Nearly in Perth just 8km up the track

loosecanon wrote:
> Best time to plant beans in Perth is after the last frost. Usually this is
> in August-September. I have always found that subsequent crops planted after
> this date don't do as well. I guess because this is the hottest 3 months.
> Although I have planted bean seeds on the 11 February 2006, 2 days before
> the full moon. They are healthy and growing well. Hopefully I will enjoy a
> good crop.

For the last two years I've planted a second round of Pioneer dwarfs
in January in Adelaide, and this year's been hot and mostly dry.
I've had a good crop each time (picked the first today), although it
didn't last long. Planted them on 13/1 - never seen dwarf beans grow
so fast or so high.

BTW, here's a trick I accidentally found for myself. I got sick of
staking the beans, which is a bit messy when they're 10cm apart. So
I now fix a length of what's called 'traintrack' (5cm) from 3 stakes
about 25-30 cm off the ground, and train the growing beans through
the gap - no tying. Works a charm!

I think 'traintrack' is normally used for reinforcing brickwork, and
you get it from building suppliers (that's what they call it, too).
It consists of light galv struts, with connecting struts every so
often. The ones I get are about 3m long and come in various widths.
I've used wider sections as temporary trellising (for eg peas) for
years.

Andrew
--
Andrew Gabb
email: agabb [at] tpgi.com.au Adelaide, South Australia
phone: +61 8 8342-1021, fax: +61 8 8269-3280
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"Andrew Gabb" <agabb [at] tpgi.com.au> wrote in message
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> loosecanon wrote:
>> Best time to plant beans in Perth is after the last frost. Usually this
>> is
>> in August-September. I have always found that subsequent crops planted
>> after
>> this date don't do as well. I guess because this is the hottest 3 months.
>> Although I have planted bean seeds on the 11 February 2006, 2 days before
>> the full moon. They are healthy and growing well. Hopefully I will enjoy
>> a
>> good crop.
>
> For the last two years I've planted a second round of Pioneer dwarfs in
> January in Adelaide, and this year's been hot and mostly dry. I've had a
> good crop each time (picked the first today), although it didn't last
> long. Planted them on 13/1 - never seen dwarf beans grow so fast or so
> high.
>
> BTW, here's a trick I accidentally found for myself. I got sick of staking
> the beans, which is a bit messy when they're 10cm apart. So I now fix a
> length of what's called 'traintrack' (5cm) from 3 stakes about 25-30 cm
> off the ground, and train the growing beans through the gap - no tying.
> Works a charm!
>
> I think 'traintrack' is normally used for reinforcing brickwork, and you
> get it from building suppliers (that's what they call it, too). It
> consists of light galv struts, with connecting struts every so often. The
> ones I get are about 3m long and come in various widths. I've used wider
> sections as temporary trellising (for eg peas) for years.
>
> Andrew

Thanks for that You may have saved this years crop of broad beans.
Jim

> --
> Andrew Gabb
> email: agabb [at] tpgi.com.au Adelaide, South Australia
> phone: +61 8 8342-1021, fax: +61 8 8269-3280
> -----

"tt" <rightyouare [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:440abbab$1 [at] quokka.wn.com.au...
> Hi, i live in perth, and we put in scarlet runner beans over this summer
>
> but they havent given of the biggest crop of beans, so we're wondering, if
> beans are a
> winter vegetable to grow. does anyone know when the prime time for growing
> runner beans is in perth?
>
> thanks in advance
>
>
>
They are a warm season vege. In Perth plant in Spring and Summer to early
Autumn, successive plantings will give you a steady supply as each lot will
only produce for a limited time. Maybe you chose a poor cultivar or didn't
feed or water them well enough. If you are quick you can try again now
before the cooler weather.

David

Scarelet rummers do well in Melbourne, I grow them in shade and find beans
do not set in hot weather. As soon as there is a cool spell lots of beans
set. White 7 year beans are good too, pick the beans before they grow
large and tough. Marie







"David Hare-Scott" <compost [at] rotting.com> wrote in message
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>
> "tt" <rightyouare [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:440abbab$1 [at] quokka.wn.com.au...
>> Hi, i live in perth, and we put in scarlet runner beans over this summer
>>
>> but they havent given of the biggest crop of beans, so we're wondering,
>> if
>> beans are a
>> winter vegetable to grow. does anyone know when the prime time for
>> growing
>> runner beans is in perth?
>>
>> thanks in advance
>>
>>
>>
> They are a warm season vege. In Perth plant in Spring and Summer to early
> Autumn, successive plantings will give you a steady supply as each lot
> will
> only produce for a limited time. Maybe you chose a poor cultivar or
> didn't
> feed or water them well enough. If you are quick you can try again now
> before the cooler weather.
>
> David
>
>

I live in Newcastle where it has been very hot this year - but maybe not as
warm at night as Perth - I have grown Diggers Club "Rattlesnake" beans right
through summer - into third crop now. I used to be a "Blue Lake" fan when I
lived in Upper Swan, but these things are awesome - so prolific, don't seem
to care about the baking sun - and best of all don't go tough if you forget
to pick them for a few days. They look neat as well - green with splashes
of purple.

I use 2.5m high sheets of concrete reinforcing mesh for my trellises - they
don't collapse and are strong enough that you can just rip the beans off
when they are finished.

Cheers,
Geoff
"tt" <rightyouare [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:440abbab$1 [at] quokka.wn.com.au...
> Hi, i live in perth, and we put in scarlet runner beans over this summer
>
> but they havent given of the biggest crop of beans, so we're wondering, if
> beans are a
> winter vegetable to grow. does anyone know when the prime time for growing
> runner beans is in perth?
>
> thanks in advance
>
>
>

"Marie Lawrence" <ranlauren [at] optusnet.com.au> writes:
>Scarelet rummers do well in Melbourne, I grow them in shade and find beans
>do not set in hot weather.

That's my experience too. Scarlet runners need to be watered morning and
evening in hot weather if you hope to have many set, otherwise the flowers
go to waste. Water the soil, not the leaves. I think they should be thought
of as a cool area climber. They are a perennial, coming up every year (for
nominally 7 years).

> As soon as there is a cool spell lots of beans
>set. White 7 year beans are good too, pick the beans before they grow
>large and tough. Marie

The whites are hardier than the reds, and keep coming up year after year
more reliably. I'll mention here that the scarlet runners (aka 7 year beans)
produce a very large bean, and it is NOT stringless: it has string along
both edges. The plants are heavy producers, but so are the faster-bearing
Blue Lake and Blue Lake are stringless.

The green vegetable shield beetle has a strong attraction to the Scarlet
Runner/7 year beans, but doesn't seem to do much damage--just a few bumps
on the side of the bean.
--
John Savage (my news address is not valid for email)

John Savage wrote:

>"Marie Lawrence" <ranlauren [at] optusnet.com.au> writes:
>
>
>>Scarelet rummers do well in Melbourne, I grow them in shade and find beans
>>do not set in hot weather.
>>
>>
>
>That's my experience too. Scarlet runners need to be watered morning and
>evening in hot weather if you hope to have many set, otherwise the flowers
>go to waste. Water the soil, not the leaves. I think they should be thought
>of as a cool area climber. They are a perennial, coming up every year (for
>nominally 7 years).
>
>
>
>> As soon as there is a cool spell lots of beans
>>set. White 7 year beans are good too, pick the beans before they grow
>>large and tough. Marie
>>
>>
>
>The whites are hardier than the reds, and keep coming up year after year
>more reliably. I'll mention here that the scarlet runners (aka 7 year beans)
>produce a very large bean, and it is NOT stringless: it has string along
>both edges. The plants are heavy producers, but so are the faster-bearing
>Blue Lake and Blue Lake are stringless.
>
>The green vegetable shield beetle has a strong attraction to the Scarlet
>Runner/7 year beans, but doesn't seem to do much damage--just a few bumps
>on the side of the bean.
>--
>John Savage (my news address is not valid for email)
>
>
>
We just eat the beans after podding.