non flowering orchid

My orchid (with small yellow flowers when bought new) has not flowered
since which is 2 years ago.
mhari.mackintosh [ Di, 21 März 2006 22:28 ] [ ID #107241 ]

Re: non flowering orchid

<mhari.mackintosh [at] moray.uhi.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:1142976507.246432.259040 [at] i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> My orchid (with small yellow flowers when bought new) has not flowered
> since which is 2 years ago.
>
And?
keith. [ Di, 21 März 2006 22:50 ] [ ID #107242 ]

Re: non flowering orchid

Mhari,

When you say 'small yellow flowers', do you mean like this?

http://herba.msu.ru/shipunov/e-album/original/oncidium-k111. jpg If so,
that's an Oncidium.

Or like this?
http://orchid.ne.jp/suzuki/images/gift/phal/yellow/Phal.Yell ow3f_rap_naname.jpg
If so, that's a yellow Phal.

If it looked different than either one of those, then we need more info
about its looks -- you can go to a library or bookstore and look through a
book on orchids for a picture that looks similar to your orchid, then check
the caption of the photo to find out what kind of orchid it is. You see
there are many different kinds of orchids, and small yellow flowers is not
enough for us to determine what kind. The different kinds of orchids have
different requirements such as different amount of light required for
flowering.

Best,
Joanna

<mhari.mackintosh [at] moray.uhi.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:1142976507.246432.259040 [at] i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> My orchid (with small yellow flowers when bought new) has not flowered
> since which is 2 years ago.
>
J Fortuna [ Di, 21 März 2006 23:10 ] [ ID #107243 ]

Re: non flowering orchid

if it has a tag, just tell us what the tag says...

in very general terms, the #1 reason an orchid would grow for two years but
fail to rebloom is insuffient light levels. The #2 reason would be lack of
fertilizer. BUT without knowing what kind of orchid it is, these could be
exactly the wrong answer.

also, depending on all sorts of unavailable data, if it has been in the same
pot for two years, it is probably way passed time to remove it from the olde
potting media and replace into some fresh stuff.

"J Fortuna" <joanna [at] REMOVEfortunabujard.com> wrote in message
news:sR_Tf.8497$vy.2035 [at] trnddc01...
> Mhari,
>
> When you say 'small yellow flowers', do you mean like this?
>
> http://herba.msu.ru/shipunov/e-album/original/oncidium-k111. jpg If so,
> that's an Oncidium.
>
> Or like this?
> http://orchid.ne.jp/suzuki/images/gift/phal/yellow/Phal.Yell ow3f_rap_naname.jpg
> If so, that's a yellow Phal.
>
> If it looked different than either one of those, then we need more info
> about its looks -- you can go to a library or bookstore and look through a
> book on orchids for a picture that looks similar to your orchid, then
> check the caption of the photo to find out what kind of orchid it is. You
> see there are many different kinds of orchids, and small yellow flowers is
> not enough for us to determine what kind. The different kinds of orchids
> have different requirements such as different amount of light required for
> flowering.
>
> Best,
> Joanna
>
> <mhari.mackintosh [at] moray.uhi.ac.uk> wrote in message
> news:1142976507.246432.259040 [at] i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> My orchid (with small yellow flowers when bought new) has not flowered
>> since which is 2 years ago.
>>
>
>
AL [ Di, 21 März 2006 23:28 ] [ ID #107244 ]

Re: non flowering orchid

I was going to answer, but Al said it all. Kenni

"Al" <nospam [at] all.ever> wrote in message
news:1-SdnRzhNpqA473ZnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d [at] adelphia.com...
> if it has a tag, just tell us what the tag says...
>
> in very general terms, the #1 reason an orchid would grow for two years
> but fail to rebloom is insuffient light levels. The #2 reason would be
> lack of fertilizer. BUT without knowing what kind of orchid it is, these
> could be exactly the wrong answer.
>
> also, depending on all sorts of unavailable data, if it has been in the
> same pot for two years, it is probably way passed time to remove it from
> the olde potting media and replace into some fresh stuff.
Kenni Judd [ Mi, 22 März 2006 00:00 ] [ ID #107245 ]

Re: non flowering orchid

On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:00:12 -0500 in <FMSdnQplu80FGL3ZnZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d [at] adelphia.com> Kenni Judd <kenni [at] REMOVEjborchids.com> wrote:
> I was going to answer, but Al said it all. Kenni

I think ya'll scared the original poster away already.

--
Chris Dukes
Suspicion breeds confidence -- Brazil
pakrat [ Mi, 22 März 2006 17:21 ] [ ID #107252 ]

Re: non flowering orchid

Really and no one is flaming anyone about the correct date of a AOS/HCC
or first recorded botanical name etc.
armyguy [ Mi, 22 März 2006 17:35 ] [ ID #107253 ]

Re: non flowering orchid

Our orchid looked like an onicdum. We had it in the kitchen on an east
facing window sill - in Scotland. I have a sunlounge facing south do
you advise placing it in there? Any other advice?
Thanks
Mhari
p.s. this is the first time I have used a newsgroup - what does AOS/HCC
mean?
mhari.mackintosh [ Mi, 22 März 2006 20:29 ] [ ID #107255 ]

Re: non flowering orchid

mhari.mackintosh [at] moray.uhi.ac.uk wrote:
> Our orchid looked like an onicdum. We had it in the kitchen on an east
> facing window sill - in Scotland. I have a sunlounge facing south do
> you advise placing it in there? Any other advice?
> Thanks
> Mhari

I think I'd stick with the east window. My only advice is 'when in
doubt, don't' - water, that is... Try not to pamper the plant too much,
that kills more orchids than anything else.

> p.s. this is the first time I have used a newsgroup - what does AOS/HCC
> mean?
>

Actually it should be HCC/AOS, and it it is a type of award given by the
American Orchid Society to a plant. Divisions or clones of that plant
carry the award designation. If you see a plant with an award (HCC, AM,
or FCC/AOS), you can be reasonably assured that it has high flower
quality, with the quality improving as you move left to right... Since
you are in the UK, you are more likely to see AM/RHS or FCC/RHS awards,
these are given by the Royal Horticultural Society. Same idea, though.

Rob

--
Rob's Rules: http://littlefrogfarm.com
1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a) See rule 1
3) When one has insufficient credit to obtain more
orchids, obtain more credit
Rob [ Mi, 22 März 2006 21:06 ] [ ID #107256 ]

Re: non flowering orchid

Mhari,

What is the minimum and maximum temperature that this orchid experiences? Is
there any day-night temperature difference? The reason why I ask is that
temperature is another environmental factor that is important, and could
contribute toward whether or not an orchid reflowers. I am not sure whether
oncidiums really need a temperature difference between night and day, since
I do not grow oncidiums myself, but the following oncidium care instruction
pages suggests so, I think: http://www.orchidweb.com/onccare.htm or
http://www.aos.org/aos/uploadedfiles/docs/culturecymbidium.p df

These culture sheets might hopefully give you some ideas of how you could
improve your oncidium's conditions to be closer to its desired conditions.

Best,
Joanna

"Rob" <rob [at] littlefrogfarm.com> wrote in message
news:dvsaoo$s0b$1 [at] news.msu.edu...
> mhari.mackintosh [at] moray.uhi.ac.uk wrote:
>> Our orchid looked like an onicdum. We had it in the kitchen on an east
>> facing window sill - in Scotland. I have a sunlounge facing south do
>> you advise placing it in there? Any other advice?
>> Thanks
>> Mhari
>
> I think I'd stick with the east window. My only advice is 'when in doubt,
> don't' - water, that is... Try not to pamper the plant too much, that
> kills more orchids than anything else.
>
>> p.s. this is the first time I have used a newsgroup - what does AOS/HCC
>> mean?
>>
>
> Actually it should be HCC/AOS, and it it is a type of award given by the
> American Orchid Society to a plant. Divisions or clones of that plant
> carry the award designation. If you see a plant with an award (HCC, AM,
> or FCC/AOS), you can be reasonably assured that it has high flower
> quality, with the quality improving as you move left to right... Since
> you are in the UK, you are more likely to see AM/RHS or FCC/RHS awards,
> these are given by the Royal Horticultural Society. Same idea, though.
>
> Rob
>
> --
> Rob's Rules: http://littlefrogfarm.com
> 1) There is always room for one more orchid
> 2) There is always room for two more orchids
> 2a) See rule 1
> 3) When one has insufficient credit to obtain more
> orchids, obtain more credit
>
J Fortuna [ Mi, 22 März 2006 22:22 ] [ ID #107257 ]

Re: non flowering orchid

Sorry, confused Cymbidium and Oncidium culture sheets. Here are corrected
ones:
http://www.orchidweb.com/onccare.htm and
http://www.aos.org/aos/uploadedfiles/docs/cultureintermedonc idium.pdf
Best,
Joanna

"J Fortuna" <joanna [at] REMOVEfortunabujard.com> wrote in message
news:tejUf.8648$I7.4124 [at] trnddc03...
> Mhari,
>
> What is the minimum and maximum temperature that this orchid experiences?
> Is there any day-night temperature difference? The reason why I ask is
> that temperature is another environmental factor that is important, and
> could contribute toward whether or not an orchid reflowers. I am not sure
> whether oncidiums really need a temperature difference between night and
> day, since I do not grow oncidiums myself, but the following oncidium care
> instruction pages suggests so, I think:
> http://www.orchidweb.com/onccare.htm or
> http://www.aos.org/aos/uploadedfiles/docs/culturecymbidium.p df
>
> These culture sheets might hopefully give you some ideas of how you could
> improve your oncidium's conditions to be closer to its desired conditions.
>
> Best,
> Joanna
>
> "Rob" <rob [at] littlefrogfarm.com> wrote in message
> news:dvsaoo$s0b$1 [at] news.msu.edu...
>> mhari.mackintosh [at] moray.uhi.ac.uk wrote:
>>> Our orchid looked like an onicdum. We had it in the kitchen on an east
>>> facing window sill - in Scotland. I have a sunlounge facing south do
>>> you advise placing it in there? Any other advice?
>>> Thanks
>>> Mhari
>>
>> I think I'd stick with the east window. My only advice is 'when in
>> doubt, don't' - water, that is... Try not to pamper the plant too much,
>> that kills more orchids than anything else.
>>
>>> p.s. this is the first time I have used a newsgroup - what does AOS/HCC
>>> mean?
>>>
>>
>> Actually it should be HCC/AOS, and it it is a type of award given by the
>> American Orchid Society to a plant. Divisions or clones of that plant
>> carry the award designation. If you see a plant with an award (HCC, AM,
>> or FCC/AOS), you can be reasonably assured that it has high flower
>> quality, with the quality improving as you move left to right... Since
>> you are in the UK, you are more likely to see AM/RHS or FCC/RHS awards,
>> these are given by the Royal Horticultural Society. Same idea, though.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> --
>> Rob's Rules: http://littlefrogfarm.com
>> 1) There is always room for one more orchid
>> 2) There is always room for two more orchids
>> 2a) See rule 1
>> 3) When one has insufficient credit to obtain more
>> orchids, obtain more credit
>>
>
J Fortuna [ Mi, 22 März 2006 22:24 ] [ ID #107258 ]

Re: non flowering orchid

Along with rec.gardens.orchids (you can see the fine help posted
already) you can use a Search engine like GOOGLE. Try "Oncidiums 101".
That gave me many sites discussing Onc. care. The information will at
first seem overwhelming, scattered, different strokes from different
folks, but after researching it a bit things will start to fall into
place.
Now for my two cents; Use the south window but place it to get only
the morning sun and bright shade in the afternoon, possibly south side
of a larger plant to filter the afternoon sun. Use expanded clay and
repot in a SemiHydro type arrangement ( Google again). Feed with a weak
solution bi-weekly. Flush with water weekly ( Run 2 quarts of water
thru a one quart pot). The leaves should go to a light green with a
tinge of yellow (dark green indicates too much light). Relax. ;-)) For
me half the fun is the research and groups.
Joe T
Baytown, Texas
jtill [ Do, 23 März 2006 00:58 ] [ ID #107261 ]

Re: non flowering orchid

mhari.mackintosh [at] moray.uhi.ac.uk wrote:
> Our orchid looked like an onicdum. We had it in the kitchen on an east
> facing window sill - in Scotland. I have a sunlounge facing south do
> you advise placing it in there? ...

Whichever window gets the longest exposure to sun is the one to use.

J. Del Col
delcolja [ Do, 23 März 2006 17:46 ] [ ID #107263 ]

Re: non flowering orchid

Thanks everybody for the advice and understanding.

It would appear that light and humidity are problems.

Mhari
mhari.mackintosh [ Fr, 24 März 2006 22:01 ] [ ID #107282 ]

Re: non flowering orchid

"jtill" <jtill10610 [at] aol.com> wrote in message
news:1143071902.688102.54500 [at] g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Along with rec.gardens.orchids (you can see the fine help posted
> already) you can use a Search engine like GOOGLE. Try "Oncidiums 101".
> That gave me many sites discussing Onc. care. The information will at
> first seem overwhelming, scattered, different strokes from different
> folks, but after researching it a bit things will start to fall into
> place.
> Now for my two cents; Use the south window but place it to get only
> the morning sun and bright shade in the afternoon, possibly south side
> of a larger plant to filter the afternoon sun. Use expanded clay and
> repot in a SemiHydro type arrangement ( Google again). Feed with a weak
> solution bi-weekly. Flush with water weekly ( Run 2 quarts of water
> thru a one quart pot). The leaves should go to a light green with a
> tinge of yellow (dark green indicates too much light). Relax. ;-)) For
> me half the fun is the research and groups.
> Joe T
> Baytown, Texas

Joe T
Snip -dark green indicates too much light

The opposite.
Keith
>
keith. [ Fr, 24 März 2006 22:10 ] [ ID #107284 ]

Re: non flowering orchid

Or it could mean a deficeny or toxicity with your fertilizer if your
using one.

It can get very complicated
Ray has a good selection of information about fertilizers
http://firstrays.com/fertilizers.htm

Jack
armyguy [ Fr, 24 März 2006 22:32 ] [ ID #107285 ]

Re: non flowering orchid

Yikes! Sorry, my only excuse is that I am still living on less sleep than I
would like to have, and thus am more likely to make mistakes -- do as I
think, not as I say :-). My thoughts were clearly "Dark green means too
little light."
Joanna

"kenty;)" <keith. [at] ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:WeZUf.30392$zr.28050 [at] newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
>
> "jtill" <jtill10610 [at] aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1143071902.688102.54500 [at] g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> Along with rec.gardens.orchids (you can see the fine help posted
>> already) you can use a Search engine like GOOGLE. Try "Oncidiums 101".
>> That gave me many sites discussing Onc. care. The information will at
>> first seem overwhelming, scattered, different strokes from different
>> folks, but after researching it a bit things will start to fall into
>> place.
>> Now for my two cents; Use the south window but place it to get only
>> the morning sun and bright shade in the afternoon, possibly south side
>> of a larger plant to filter the afternoon sun. Use expanded clay and
>> repot in a SemiHydro type arrangement ( Google again). Feed with a weak
>> solution bi-weekly. Flush with water weekly ( Run 2 quarts of water
>> thru a one quart pot). The leaves should go to a light green with a
>> tinge of yellow (dark green indicates too much light). Relax. ;-)) For
>> me half the fun is the research and groups.
>> Joe T
>> Baytown, Texas
>
> Joe T
> Snip -dark green indicates too much light
>
> The opposite.
> Keith
>>
>
>
J Fortuna [ Fr, 24 März 2006 23:12 ] [ ID #107287 ]

Re: non flowering orchid

In article <k9_Uf.75$qm2.55 [at] trnddc03>, joanna [at] REMOVEfortunabujard.com
says...
~Yikes! Sorry, my only excuse is that I am still living on less sleep than I
~would like to have, and thus am more likely to make mistakes -- do as I
~think, not as I say :-). My thoughts were clearly "Dark green means too
~little light."
~Joanna
~
~"kenty;)" <keith. [at] ntlworld.com> wrote in message
~news:WeZUf.30392$zr.28050 [at] newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
~>
~> "jtill" <jtill10610 [at] aol.com> wrote in message
~> news:1143071902.688102.54500 [at] g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
~>> Along with rec.gardens.orchids (you can see the fine help posted
~>> already) you can use a Search engine like GOOGLE. Try "Oncidiums 101".
~>> That gave me many sites discussing Onc. care. The information will at
~>> first seem overwhelming, scattered, different strokes from different
~>> folks, but after researching it a bit things will start to fall into
~>> place.
~>> Now for my two cents; Use the south window but place it to get only
~>> the morning sun and bright shade in the afternoon, possibly south side
~>> of a larger plant to filter the afternoon sun. Use expanded clay and
~>> repot in a SemiHydro type arrangement ( Google again). Feed with a weak
~>> solution bi-weekly. Flush with water weekly ( Run 2 quarts of water
~>> thru a one quart pot). The leaves should go to a light green with a
~>> tinge of yellow (dark green indicates too much light). Relax. ;-)) For
~>> me half the fun is the research and groups.
~>> Joe T
~>> Baytown, Texas
~>
~> Joe T
~> Snip -dark green indicates too much light
~>
~> The opposite.
~> Keith
~>>
~>
~>
~
~
~
Joanna, get some sleep. You didn't even write that! :-))
--
--
Reka

This is LIFE! It's not a rehearsal. Don't miss it!
http://www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html
Reka Hukari Ranigler [ Sa, 25 März 2006 07:12 ] [ ID #107295 ]

Re: non flowering orchid

LOL, you're right! I really need more sleep.
Joanna

"Reka" <rhukari [at] rolmail.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.1e8efdb5ba98819d9897c5 [at] news.rolmail.net...
> In article <k9_Uf.75$qm2.55 [at] trnddc03>, joanna [at] REMOVEfortunabujard.com
> says...
> ~Yikes! Sorry, my only excuse is that I am still living on less sleep than
> I
> ~would like to have, and thus am more likely to make mistakes -- do as I
> ~think, not as I say :-). My thoughts were clearly "Dark green means too
> ~little light."
> ~Joanna
> ~
> ~"kenty;)" <keith. [at] ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> ~news:WeZUf.30392$zr.28050 [at] newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
> ~>
> ~> "jtill" <jtill10610 [at] aol.com> wrote in message
> ~> news:1143071902.688102.54500 [at] g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> ~>> Along with rec.gardens.orchids (you can see the fine help posted
> ~>> already) you can use a Search engine like GOOGLE. Try "Oncidiums 101".
> ~>> That gave me many sites discussing Onc. care. The information will at
> ~>> first seem overwhelming, scattered, different strokes from different
> ~>> folks, but after researching it a bit things will start to fall into
> ~>> place.
> ~>> Now for my two cents; Use the south window but place it to get only
> ~>> the morning sun and bright shade in the afternoon, possibly south side
> ~>> of a larger plant to filter the afternoon sun. Use expanded clay and
> ~>> repot in a SemiHydro type arrangement ( Google again). Feed with a
> weak
> ~>> solution bi-weekly. Flush with water weekly ( Run 2 quarts of water
> ~>> thru a one quart pot). The leaves should go to a light green with a
> ~>> tinge of yellow (dark green indicates too much light). Relax. ;-)) For
> ~>> me half the fun is the research and groups.
> ~>> Joe T
> ~>> Baytown, Texas
> ~>
> ~> Joe T
> ~> Snip -dark green indicates too much light
> ~>
> ~> The opposite.
> ~> Keith
> ~>>
> ~>
> ~>
> ~
> ~
> ~
> Joanna, get some sleep. You didn't even write that! :-))
> --
> --
> Reka
>
> This is LIFE! It's not a rehearsal. Don't miss it!
> http://www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html
J Fortuna [ Sa, 25 März 2006 13:58 ] [ ID #107297 ]

Re: non flowering orchid

Uh, Joanna? Are the orchids getting to you, or is it new mommyhood? You're
apologizing for advice given by someone else!! <G>

Diana

"J Fortuna" <joanna [at] REMOVEfortunabujard.com> wrote in message
news:k9_Uf.75$qm2.55 [at] trnddc03...
> Yikes! Sorry, my only excuse is that I am still living on less sleep than
> I would like to have, and thus am more likely to make mistakes -- do as I
> think, not as I say :-). My thoughts were clearly "Dark green means too
> little light."
> Joanna
>
> "kenty;)" <keith. [at] ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:WeZUf.30392$zr.28050 [at] newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
>>
>> "jtill" <jtill10610 [at] aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:1143071902.688102.54500 [at] g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>> Along with rec.gardens.orchids (you can see the fine help posted
>>> already) you can use a Search engine like GOOGLE. Try "Oncidiums 101".
>>> That gave me many sites discussing Onc. care. The information will at
>>> first seem overwhelming, scattered, different strokes from different
>>> folks, but after researching it a bit things will start to fall into
>>> place.
>>> Now for my two cents; Use the south window but place it to get only
>>> the morning sun and bright shade in the afternoon, possibly south side
>>> of a larger plant to filter the afternoon sun. Use expanded clay and
>>> repot in a SemiHydro type arrangement ( Google again). Feed with a weak
>>> solution bi-weekly. Flush with water weekly ( Run 2 quarts of water
>>> thru a one quart pot). The leaves should go to a light green with a
>>> tinge of yellow (dark green indicates too much light). Relax. ;-)) For
>>> me half the fun is the research and groups.
>>> Joe T
>>> Baytown, Texas
>>
>> Joe T
>> Snip -dark green indicates too much light
>>
>> The opposite.
>> Keith
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Diana Kulaga [ Sa, 25 März 2006 21:32 ] [ ID #107305 ]

Re: non flowering orchid

True. The devil made me do it! I pulled a Bush! Light green for
Sunshine! My two cents turned into a bad debt! ;-))))))
jtill [ So, 26 März 2006 21:32 ] [ ID #107325 ]

Re: non flowering orchid

Wish I had a nickel for every time someone made a mistake in this group,
Joe!

Diana
Diana Kulaga [ So, 26 März 2006 23:04 ] [ ID #107329 ]
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