I was checking my plants yeasterday and found out that I have thrips
now, I think that they came in with some bulbs I got at a not to be
named home improvement store, in addition to the moss flys I can't seem
to get rid of. I HATE thrips and have never been able of to kill all
of them in the past when they were in my African Violets, is there
something that I can use to kill them all and not just control them?

Jack

Jack,

A systemic works best for me when the beasties come around, but I realize
that you grow inside. Ray has great information about home remedies.

Go here: http://www.firstrays.com/thrips.htm

HTH

Diana

Avoid bad acid.

J. Del Col (child of the '60's)

> Avoid bad acid.
>
> J. Del Col (child of the '60's)<

Ouch! <G>

Diana

How about carnivorous plants? I've used them in the past to control fungus
gnats, and they certainly are interesting. I think sundews are most
effective. (drosera)

K Barrett

"Jack" <davisonjd [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I was checking my plants yeasterday and found out that I have thrips
> now, I think that they came in with some bulbs I got at a not to be
> named home improvement store, in addition to the moss flys I can't seem
> to get rid of. I HATE thrips and have never been able of to kill all
> of them in the past when they were in my African Violets, is there
> something that I can use to kill them all and not just control them?
>
> Jack
>

Kathy, would pitcher plants work? This is an interesting concept, especially
since I currently have my first ever case of spider mites. *&(^%_! They
ravaged my Phals before I saw the webs.

Diana

"K Barrett" <mormodes [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> How about carnivorous plants? I've used them in the past to control
> fungus gnats, and they certainly are interesting. I think sundews are
> most effective. (drosera)
>
> K Barrett
>
> "Jack" <davisonjd [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1144604148.977845.153090 [at] t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>I was checking my plants yeasterday and found out that I have thrips
>> now, I think that they came in with some bulbs I got at a not to be
>> named home improvement store, in addition to the moss flys I can't seem
>> to get rid of. I HATE thrips and have never been able of to kill all
>> of them in the past when they were in my African Violets, is there
>> something that I can use to kill them all and not just control them?
>>
>> Jack
>>
>
>

K Barrett wrote:
>How about carnivorous plants? I've used them in the past to control fungus
>gnats, and they certainly are interesting. I think sundews are most
>effective. (drosera)

I have never had much luck using carnivorous plants as pest control.
Most of what my plants catch are not pest insects. I have heard of
people using large pots of Byblis in the doorway of their greenhouse to
control against moths/butterflies with success but small pests eg
thrips, aphids, spider mite and scale are difficult to control with
carnivorous plants and will more often than not attack the carnivorous
plants as well as your orchids. Many of my Drosera get attacked by
aphids long before they even think of moving on to my orchids. My
Sarracenia get attacked by the same scale and caterpillars that my
orchids do. As you mentioned, the only pest I find them useful for are
fungus gnats. Pinguicula and to a lesser extent Drosera do catch fungus
gnats do a decent job of catching them although it's a bit of a catch
22 as wet peat generally encourages fungus gnats. Then again, fungus
gnats aren't problematic for me so whether or not my Pinguicula are
controlling them is a moot point.
Andrew

Diana,
Spider mites are generally more pest than prey for pitcher plants. If
you don't want to use systemincs and you're willing to spend the $$$,
there are commercially reared predatory mites that can control spider
mites. They're expensive but apparently effective. I believe there's
also commercially reared mites that will attack thrips. Of course
pesticides are a no no if you want to go this route.

So....
systemics, any one know if they granualr systemics?


carnivours plants, maybe as early warning

neem oil every week, if they need it or not

......And a six pack of beer for me.
I can add thirps to my list of grips, like where in the hell to put my
Agrcm. eburneum when it grows up.

jack

Oh, yeah


> J. Del Col (child of the '60's) wrote
> Avoid bad acid.

Orthonex works great, It was after I was buzzing I bothered to read the
bottle and saw the little warning "for outdoor use only"
It might be awhile before I come down :)

On Sun, 9 Apr 2006 18:40:26 -0400 in <d0g_f.2384$A41.56 [at] bignews5.bellsouth.net> Diana Kulaga <diandfrankcat [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Kathy, would pitcher plants work? This is an interesting concept, especially
> since I currently have my first ever case of spider mites. *&(^%_! They
> ravaged my Phals before I saw the webs.

Bayer Tree and Shrub used in the water/fertilizer seems to have gotten
rid of the waxy scale and spider mites.

--
Chris Dukes
< tajwerk> this job isnt bad though. Today we had free breakfast and
B0rg implants.

K Barrett wrote:
> How about carnivorous plants? I've used them in the past to control fungus
> gnats, and they certainly are interesting. I think sundews are most
> effective. (drosera)


Carnivorous plants can also attract more insects, so the net effect
might not be what you had in mind.

I used to raise nepenthes, drosera, dionea, etc. If you want bugs to
find your plants, put some carnivourous shrubbery in with them.

J. Del Col

Jack: Any 75% acephate product [think Orthene, Isotox, Orthenex, but check
the label for the %, lately they've been "watered down" to lower
percentages] will do the job in 1-2 sprayings. But if you are growing
indoors, you'll need to take all the plants outside to spray them and
ideally, you'll have a shady place to let them dry off and "air out"
afterwards. The stuff STINKS -- which is a good indication that you
shouldn't breathe a lot of it. I don't know whether it's safe on violets,
but I've never seen it harm an orchid.

When I say "do the job," I mean it will get rid of your current crop.
Thrips are very small and very mobile, so chances are you will get a new
crop at some point. [I never cease to be amazed at the folks who don't
think that thrips, scale, mealies, etc., can get into their homes through
their window screens ... even without hitchhiking on a new plant purchase].
Kenni

"Jack" <davisonjd [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I was checking my plants yeasterday and found out that I have thrips
> now, I think that they came in with some bulbs I got at a not to be
> named home improvement store, in addition to the moss flys I can't seem
> to get rid of. I HATE thrips and have never been able of to kill all
> of them in the past when they were in my African Violets, is there
> something that I can use to kill them all and not just control them?
>
> Jack
>

Andrew, I don't mind using systemics at all. (Well, no one adores using that
smelly stuff, but you bite the bullet, so to speak.) I tried the
soap/oil/water route, but I have too many plants to be spraying the under
side of all the leaves every 5 days. It's going to be the big guns.

I grow outside under screen, so predator bugs would be impossible to
contain.

Diana

> .....And a six pack of beer for me.
> I can add thirps to my list of grips, like where in the hell to put my
> Agrcm. eburneum when it grows up.<

Hang it in the bathroom! <G>

Diana

> Orthonex works great, It was after I was buzzing I bothered to read the
> bottle and saw the little warning "for outdoor use only"
> It might be awhile before I come down :)<

Jack, all kidding aside, air the place out. That stuff can be very
dangerous, my friend. And if you've been inhaling it to the point where you
*feel* it, you might want to see a doctor or talk to poison control. I kid
you not.

Diana

I actually have read the MSDS and understand it, most pesticides are
organophosphates and closely related to nerve agents, which as a medic
I have a bit of training on, so all kidding aside I was replying in
kind. If you actually read the MSDS (material safety data sheet) on
most of your house hold chemicals you might get a little scared, and
realize why animal testing, while not pleasant is necessary. I have to
check after my second appication to see if the little f** [at] # are still
at it.

Jack

Okay. Glad you are alright.

Diana

"Jack" <davisonjd [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I actually have read the MSDS and understand it, most pesticides are
> organophosphates and closely related to nerve agents, which as a medic
> I have a bit of training on, so all kidding aside I was replying in
> kind. If you actually read the MSDS (material safety data sheet) on
> most of your house hold chemicals you might get a little scared, and
> realize why animal testing, while not pleasant is necessary. I have to
> check after my second appication to see if the little f** [at] # are still
> at it.
>
> Jack
>

Well, I guess for now I can be happy that the elephant, err Agrcm.
eburneum is just a cute little seeling (7 cm span) so I have a while to
remodle my bathroom and put in windows (maybe it'll like sharing the
shower)
and I can't find the thrips, maybe the orthonex did it's job. I'm
going to give them one more treatment on saturday and then start
spraying with neem for the next few weeks. My wife is complaining
about the smell after the plants are sprayed.

Also, the two bastard children, I mean my rootless wonders... The cat
is looking better in it's bag, but my phal is yellowing in the middle
of it's last leaf, it lost it's second leaf last week but it doesn't
look dehydrated anymore...

Jack

I'm glad the Catt is looking better, but I'm sorry to say that without
divine intervention, the Phal. is toast...

Diana