white ants

I noticed what I think to be white ant activity in a gum tree near my vegie
garden this morning. Any suggestions on how to save the tree but, more
importantly, kill the ants!
Cheers, Carmel
Sandgroper [ Fr, 28 April 2006 09:40 ] [ ID #116537 ]

Re: white ants

G'day Carmel

Do NOT disturb them.......I know it's very tempting, but if you do, then
they will reappear somewhere else, possibly your house!!

Unfortunately, (thanks to all the greenies) you are unable to buy the
necessary chemicals to get rid of them now, so you best option is to
phone a pest controller as they are licenced and therefore able to buy
the chemicals.

Get two, or three, quotes and my suggestion is to use the smaller
one-man companies, rather than the big household names who charge heaps
more to fund their massive advertising programs.

Your house is more important than the tree, although if the tree is
already damaged then you might need to have any dead limbs lopped in
case they could fall on your house.

Again, please do NOT be tempted to disturb them.
Hope this helps?
Bronwyn ;-)



Sandgroper wrote:

> I noticed what I think to be white ant activity in a gum tree near my vegie
> garden this morning. Any suggestions on how to save the tree but, more
> importantly, kill the ants!
> Cheers, Carmel
>
>
HC [ Fr, 28 April 2006 09:05 ] [ ID #116538 ]

Re: white ants

Oh oh! I did prod around with a "twig". Thought the damage may have been
caused by borers. What's the difference in tell-tale signs?
Thanks for your reply - I'd better get a pest controller in.
Thanks again, Carmel

"HC" <IHateSpam [at] home.com> wrote in message
news:4451bed1$1 [at] dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> G'day Carmel
>
> Do NOT disturb them.......I know it's very tempting, but if you do, then
> they will reappear somewhere else, possibly your house!!
>
> Unfortunately, (thanks to all the greenies) you are unable to buy the
> necessary chemicals to get rid of them now, so you best option is to
> phone a pest controller as they are licenced and therefore able to buy
> the chemicals.
>
> Get two, or three, quotes and my suggestion is to use the smaller
> one-man companies, rather than the big household names who charge heaps
> more to fund their massive advertising programs.
>
> Your house is more important than the tree, although if the tree is
> already damaged then you might need to have any dead limbs lopped in
> case they could fall on your house.
>
> Again, please do NOT be tempted to disturb them.
> Hope this helps?
> Bronwyn ;-)
>
>
>
> Sandgroper wrote:
>
> > I noticed what I think to be white ant activity in a gum tree near my
vegie
> > garden this morning. Any suggestions on how to save the tree but, more
> > importantly, kill the ants!
> > Cheers, Carmel
> >
> >
Sandgroper [ Fr, 28 April 2006 10:39 ] [ ID #116539 ]

Re: white ants

wrap the tree in glad-wrap and suffocate the bastards?
Dave Turner [ Fr, 28 April 2006 16:36 ] [ ID #116540 ]

Re: white ants

he he he. Try loud rap music 20 hours a day - they might leave home - I
nearly did:-)


"Dave Turner" <1 [at] 2.3> wrote in message news:445228a3$1 [at] quokka.wn.com.au...
> wrap the tree in glad-wrap and suffocate the bastards?
>
>
gphe [ So, 30 April 2006 10:21 ] [ ID #116545 ]

Re: white ants

i'm against cruelty to animals. gladwrap is one thing, but RAP MUSIC?
you're a sick puppy mate!
Dave Turner [ So, 30 April 2006 17:45 ] [ ID #116550 ]

Re: white ants

Dave Turner wrote:
> i'm against cruelty to animals. gladwrap is one thing, but RAP MUSIC?
> you're a sick puppy mate!
>
>
>
Ant music? Adam and the ants more suitable ?
Look you didnt even mention the poor tree... Rap music would definitely
have adverse reactions. If it rots the brain,
it would surely rot other organic material.. Probably how root rot sets
in...Remember the poor tree cant move...
Trying its darndest to move and disaster...Rooted would the the correct
technical term!
Are you sure youre a gardener? (grin!)
Jonno [ Mo, 01 Mai 2006 04:41 ] [ ID #116554 ]

Re: white ants

Don't you remember that Myth Busters show where they measured the growth of
peas subject to various types of music - I think Heavy Metal provided the
best results - soothing orchestral stunted growth.

I guess it all depends if the tree has grown up on Hard Rock :-)



"Jonno" <aidplus [at] fastamail.thanu.com.au> wrote in message
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> Dave Turner wrote:
>> i'm against cruelty to animals. gladwrap is one thing, but RAP MUSIC?
>> you're a sick puppy mate!
>>
>>
>>
> Ant music? Adam and the ants more suitable ?
> Look you didnt even mention the poor tree... Rap music would definitely
> have adverse reactions. If it rots the brain,
> it would surely rot other organic material.. Probably how root rot sets
> in...Remember the poor tree cant move...
> Trying its darndest to move and disaster...Rooted would the the correct
> technical term!
> Are you sure youre a gardener? (grin!)
gphe [ Di, 02 Mai 2006 13:05 ] [ ID #116566 ]

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Geoff & Heather wrote:
> Don't you remember that Myth Busters show where they measured the growth of
> peas subject to various types of music - I think Heavy Metal provided the
> best results - soothing orchestral stunted growth.
>
> I guess it all depends if the tree has grown up on Hard Rock :-)
>
>
>
> "Jonno" <aidplus [at] fastamail.thanu.com.au> wrote in message
> news:4455754f$0$29881$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au...
>
>> Dave Turner wrote:
>>
>>> i'm against cruelty to animals. gladwrap is one thing, but RAP MUSIC?
>>> you're a sick puppy mate!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Ant music? Adam and the ants more suitable ?
>> Look you didnt even mention the poor tree... Rap music would definitely
>> have adverse reactions. If it rots the brain,
>> it would surely rot other organic material.. Probably how root rot sets
>> in...Remember the poor tree cant move...
>> Trying its darndest to move and disaster...Rooted would the the correct
>> technical term!
>> Are you sure youre a gardener? (grin!)
>>
> I cant see hard rock letting anything grow. See your yates garden guide...
>
Mind you it has to good for something... :-( Just cant think what...



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<pre wrap="">Don't you remember that Myth Busters show where they measured the growth of
peas subject to various types of music - I think Heavy Metal provided the
best results - soothing orchestral stunted growth.

I guess it all depends if the tree has grown up on Hard Rock :-)



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<pre wrap="">i'm against cruelty to animals. gladwrap is one thing, but RAP MUSIC?
you're a sick puppy mate!



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<pre wrap="">Ant music? Adam and the ants more suitable ?
Look you didnt even mention the poor tree... Rap music would definitely
have adverse reactions. If it rots the brain,
it would surely rot other organic material.. Probably how root rot sets
in...Remember the poor tree cant move...
Trying its darndest to move and disaster...Rooted would the the correct
technical term!
Are you sure youre a gardener? (grin!)
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->I cant see hard rock letting anything grow. See your yates garden guide...
</pre>
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Mind you it has to good for something...<span class="moz-smiley-s2"><span>
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Jonno [ Di, 02 Mai 2006 13:25 ] [ ID #116567 ]

Re: white ants

"Geoff & Heather" <gphe [at] optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:44573d07$0$7858$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au...
> Don't you remember that Myth Busters show where they measured the growth
> of peas subject to various types of music - I think Heavy Metal provided
> the best results - soothing orchestral stunted growth.
>
> I guess it all depends if the tree has grown up on Hard Rock :-)

yeah I watched that episode with great interest. I live and breathe music
but the Mythbusters test wasnt very scientific - they were pretty much just
comparing different types of music - classical vs rock etc, rather than
actually figuring out or explaining what exactly it is about the music that
was actually stimulating plant growth
Dave Turner [ Mi, 03 Mai 2006 21:26 ] [ ID #116569 ]

Re: white ants

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Dave Turner wrote:
> "Geoff & Heather" <gphe [at] optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
> news:44573d07$0$7858$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au...
>
>> Don't you remember that Myth Busters show where they measured the growth
>> of peas subject to various types of music - I think Heavy Metal provided
>> the best results - soothing orchestral stunted growth.
>>
>> I guess it all depends if the tree has grown up on Hard Rock :-)
>>
>
> yeah I watched that episode with great interest. I live and breathe music
> but the Mythbusters test wasnt very scientific - they were pretty much just
> comparing different types of music - classical vs rock etc, rather than
> actually figuring out or explaining what exactly it is about the music that
> was actually stimulating plant growth
>
>
>
When planting seedlings I was instructed to create air currents over the
seedlings to simulate wind.
This caused the plants to sway and created space between the plants
cells to help strengthen the seedling.
It maybe something similar to this. So I would guess mechanical
movement such as vibration would do this.
Not quite sure if this was the correct explanation... :-)

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<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Don't you remember that Myth Busters show where they measured the growth
of peas subject to various types of music - I think Heavy Metal provided
the best results - soothing orchestral stunted growth.

I guess it all depends if the tree has grown up on Hard Rock :-)
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->
yeah I watched that episode with great interest. I live and breathe music
but the Mythbusters test wasnt very scientific - they were pretty much just
comparing different types of music - classical vs rock etc, rather than
actually figuring out or explaining what exactly it is about the music that
was actually stimulating plant growth


</pre>
</blockquote>
When planting seedlings I was instructed to create air currents over
the seedlings to simulate wind.<br>
This caused the plants to sway and created space between the plants
cells to help strengthen the seedling.<br>
It maybe something similar to this. So I would guess&nbsp; mechanical
movement such as vibration would do this. <br>
Not quite sure if this was the correct explanation...<span
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Jonno [ Do, 04 Mai 2006 00:09 ] [ ID #116570 ]

Re: white ants

"Sandgroper" <carmel_durbidge [at] westnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:4451bc38$1 [at] quokka.wn.com.au...
>I noticed what I think to be white ant activity in a gum tree near my
>vegie
> garden this morning. Any suggestions on how to save the tree but,
> more
> importantly, kill the ants!
> Cheers, Carmel

Use 'DIPEL' which contains a bacteria, available from any (good)
garden centre. (intended for caterpillars, but works like a charm)

Mix it up a sachet and pour it around & on the tree, including into
where you disturbed them (disturb them as much as possible). They will
carry this bacteria back into the nest & wipe out the whole nest.

It also kills many species of nuisance ants.

Environmentally friendly too.
wtf [ Do, 04 Mai 2006 02:09 ] [ ID #116571 ]

Re: white ants

wtf [at] wtf.wtf wrote:
> "Sandgroper" <carmel_durbidge [at] westnet.com.au> wrote in message
> news:4451bc38$1 [at] quokka.wn.com.au...
>
>> I noticed what I think to be white ant activity in a gum tree near my
>> vegie
>> garden this morning. Any suggestions on how to save the tree but,
>> more
>> importantly, kill the ants!
>> Cheers, Carmel
>>
>
> Use 'DIPEL' which contains a bacteria, available from any (good)
> garden centre. (intended for caterpillars, but works like a charm)
>
> Mix it up a sachet and pour it around & on the tree, including into
> where you disturbed them (disturb them as much as possible). They will
> carry this bacteria back into the nest & wipe out the whole nest.
>
> It also kills many species of nuisance ants.
>
> Environmentally friendly too.
>
>
>
Feedback if this works please. Dont breathe the dust from this stuff as
it may be harmfull if not observed.
Really great stuff to stop cabbage flutterbies.
Jonno [ Do, 04 Mai 2006 02:18 ] [ ID #116572 ]

Re: white ants

"Jonno" <aidplus [at] fastamail.thanu.com.au> wrote in message
news:44594856$0$7532$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au...
> wtf [at] wtf.wtf wrote:
>> "Sandgroper" <carmel_durbidge [at] westnet.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:4451bc38$1 [at] quokka.wn.com.au...
>>
>>> I noticed what I think to be white ant activity in a gum tree near
>>> my vegie
>>> garden this morning. Any suggestions on how to save the tree but,
>>> more
>>> importantly, kill the ants!
>>> Cheers, Carmel
>>>
>>
>> Use 'DIPEL' which contains a bacteria, available from any (good)
>> garden centre. (intended for caterpillars, but works like a charm)
>>
>> Mix it up a sachet and pour it around & on the tree, including into
>> where you disturbed them (disturb them as much as possible). They
>> will carry this bacteria back into the nest & wipe out the whole
>> nest.
>>
>> It also kills many species of nuisance ants.
>>
>> Environmentally friendly too.
>>
>>
>>
> Feedback if this works please. Dont breathe the dust from this stuff
> as it may be harmfull if not observed.
> Really great stuff to stop cabbage flutterbies.

It works great. I originally found out about this from an article in a
science magazine some years ago.

I tried it at home as we had persistent termites in the backyard. Now
they are no longer there and they are gone from the surrounding
properties also. They must travel quite a distance underground.

Cheers
wtf [ Do, 04 Mai 2006 02:31 ] [ ID #116574 ]

Re: white ants

wtf [at] wtf.wtf wrote:
> "Jonno" <aidplus [at] fastamail.thanu.com.au> wrote in message
> news:44594856$0$7532$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au...
>
>> wtf [at] wtf.wtf wrote:
>>
>>> "Sandgroper" <carmel_durbidge [at] westnet.com.au> wrote in message
>>> news:4451bc38$1 [at] quokka.wn.com.au...
>>>
>>>
>>>> I noticed what I think to be white ant activity in a gum tree near
>>>> my vegie
>>>> garden this morning. Any suggestions on how to save the tree but,
>>>> more
>>>> importantly, kill the ants!
>>>> Cheers, Carmel
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Use 'DIPEL' which contains a bacteria, available from any (good)
>>> garden centre. (intended for caterpillars, but works like a charm)
>>>
>>> Mix it up a sachet and pour it around & on the tree, including into
>>> where you disturbed them (disturb them as much as possible). They
>>> will carry this bacteria back into the nest & wipe out the whole
>>> nest.
>>>
>>> It also kills many species of nuisance ants.
>>>
>>> Environmentally friendly too.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Feedback if this works please. Dont breathe the dust from this stuff
>> as it may be harmfull if not observed.
>> Really great stuff to stop cabbage flutterbies.
>>
>
> It works great. I originally found out about this from an article in a
> science magazine some years ago.
>
> I tried it at home as we had persistent termites in the backyard. Now
> they are no longer there and they are gone from the surrounding
> properties also. They must travel quite a distance underground.
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
No white ants but plenty of the black argentinian ants....
Jonno [ Do, 04 Mai 2006 02:53 ] [ ID #116575 ]

Re: white ants

[/color]
Feedback if this works please. Dont breathe the dust from this stuff
as it may be harmfull if not observed.
Really great stuff to stop cabbage flutterbies.
[/color]

It works great. I originally found out about this from an article in
a
science magazine some years ago.

I tried it at home as we had persistent termites in the backyard. Now
they are no longer there and they are gone from the surrounding
properties also. They must travel quite a distance underground.

Cheers


[/color]
No white ants but plenty of the black argentinian ants....


Now that's a thought jonno! If DIPEL works on argentinian ants it would
be a sensation. But Argentinians aren't black? They're a honey colour. i
once did an article on Argentinian ants and researched pretty thoroughly.
The ag. board entymologist demonstrated to me that sometimes the only way
to distinguish argentinian ants from other similar species is to count
the 'teeth' on the mandibles under a microscope.

there's a much darker 'coastal brown ant' that might be your problem. But
your not a whole lot better off if it is :-) but a bit I think.

A good way of using dipel on white ants would be to insert a capped
length of PVC pipe into the nearby soil with some slots in the side and
stuffed with paper.


--
godwin
godwin [ Do, 04 Mai 2006 08:59 ] [ ID #116576 ]

Re: white ants

[/color]
Feedback if this works please. Dont breathe the dust from this stuff
as it may be harmfull if not observed.
Really great stuff to stop cabbage flutterbies.
[/color]

It works great. I originally found out about this from an article in
a
science magazine some years ago.

I tried it at home as we had persistent termites in the backyard. Now
they are no longer there and they are gone from the surrounding
properties also. They must travel quite a distance underground.

Cheers


[/color]
No white ants but plenty of the black argentinian ants....


Now that's a thought jonno! If DIPEL works on argentinian ants it would
be a sensation. But Argentinians aren't black? They're a honey colour. i
once did an article on Argentinian ants and researched pretty thoroughly.
The ag. board entymologist demonstrated to me that sometimes the only way
to distinguish argentinian ants from other similar species is to count
the 'teeth' on the mandibles under a microscope.

there's a much darker 'coastal brown ant' that might be your problem. But
your not a whole lot better off if it is :-) but a bit I think.

A good way of using dipel on white ants would be to insert a capped
length of PVC pipe into the nearby soil with some slots in the side and
stuffed with paper.


--
godwin
godwin [ Do, 04 Mai 2006 08:59 ] [ ID #116577 ]

Re: white ants

godwin wrote:
> [/color]
> Feedback if this works please. Dont breathe the dust from this stuff
> as it may be harmfull if not observed.
> Really great stuff to stop cabbage flutterbies.
> [/color]
>
> It works great. I originally found out about this from an article in
> a
> science magazine some years ago.
>
> I tried it at home as we had persistent termites in the backyard. Now
> they are no longer there and they are gone from the surrounding
> properties also. They must travel quite a distance underground.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> [/color]
> No white ants but plenty of the black argentinian ants....
>
>
> Now that's a thought jonno! If DIPEL works on argentinian ants it would
> be a sensation. But Argentinians aren't black? They're a honey colour. i
> once did an article on Argentinian ants and researched pretty thoroughly.
> The ag. board entymologist demonstrated to me that sometimes the only way
> to distinguish argentinian ants from other similar species is to count
> the 'teeth' on the mandibles under a microscope.
>
> there's a much darker 'coastal brown ant' that might be your problem. But
> your not a whole lot better off if it is :-) but a bit I think.
>
> A good way of using dipel on white ants would be to insert a capped
> length of PVC pipe into the nearby soil with some slots in the side and
> stuffed with paper.
>
>
>
They are honey coloured.. Yep. Wasn't thinking... :-(
Jonno [ Do, 04 Mai 2006 17:38 ] [ ID #117889 ]

Re: white ants

Jonno wrote:
> godwin wrote:
>> [/color]
>> Feedback if this works please. Dont breathe the dust from this stuff
>> as it may be harmfull if not observed.
>> Really great stuff to stop cabbage flutterbies.
>> [/color]
>>
>> It works great. I originally found out about this from an article in
>> a
>> science magazine some years ago.
>>
>> I tried it at home as we had persistent termites in the backyard. Now
>> they are no longer there and they are gone from the surrounding
>> properties also. They must travel quite a distance underground.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> [/color]
>> No white ants but plenty of the black argentinian ants....
>>
>>
>> Now that's a thought jonno! If DIPEL works on argentinian ants it would
>> be a sensation. But Argentinians aren't black? They're a honey colour. i
>> once did an article on Argentinian ants and researched pretty
>> thoroughly.
>> The ag. board entymologist demonstrated to me that sometimes the only
>> way
>> to distinguish argentinian ants from other similar species is to count
>> the 'teeth' on the mandibles under a microscope.
>> there's a much darker 'coastal brown ant' that might be your problem.
>> But
>> your not a whole lot better off if it is :-) but a bit I think.
>> A good way of using dipel on white ants would be to insert a capped
>> length of PVC pipe into the nearby soil with some slots in the side and
>> stuffed with paper.
>>
>>
>>
> They are honey coloured.. Yep. Wasn't thinking... :-(
Apparently Melbourne where I live has one of the largest single colony
of Argentinian ants in the world. Why is it so?
It hasn't got any enemies due to all the colony being related to each
other...by species...
Now if dipel could wipe em out, we'd be much happier...Doesnt work on
pollies does it?
Jonno [ Do, 04 Mai 2006 17:42 ] [ ID #117890 ]

Re: white ants

"Jonno" <aidplus [at] fastamail.thanu.com.au> wrote in message
news:445A20E4.9010802 [at] fastamail.thanu.com.au...
> Jonno wrote:
>> godwin wrote:
>>> [/color]
>>> Feedback if this works please. Dont breathe the dust from this
>>> stuff
>>> as it may be harmfull if not observed.
>>> Really great stuff to stop cabbage flutterbies.
>>> [/color]
>>>
>>> It works great. I originally found out about this from an article
>>> in
>>> a
>>> science magazine some years ago.
>>>
>>> I tried it at home as we had persistent termites in the backyard.
>>> Now
>>> they are no longer there and they are gone from the surrounding
>>> properties also. They must travel quite a distance underground.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>> [/color]
>>> No white ants but plenty of the black argentinian ants....
>>>
>>>
>>> Now that's a thought jonno! If DIPEL works on argentinian ants it
>>> would
>>> be a sensation. But Argentinians aren't black? They're a honey
>>> colour. i
>>> once did an article on Argentinian ants and researched pretty
>>> thoroughly.
>>> The ag. board entymologist demonstrated to me that sometimes the
>>> only way
>>> to distinguish argentinian ants from other similar species is to
>>> count
>>> the 'teeth' on the mandibles under a microscope.
>>> there's a much darker 'coastal brown ant' that might be your
>>> problem. But
>>> your not a whole lot better off if it is :-) but a bit I think. A
>>> good way of using dipel on white ants would be to insert a capped
>>> length of PVC pipe into the nearby soil with some slots in the
>>> side and
>>> stuffed with paper.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> They are honey coloured.. Yep. Wasn't thinking... :-(


I don't know if it works on them - it does work on the little black
and smaller brown (not Argentinian) ants that we have here. We had
such a severe plague of those, so bad that the ground felf like a
sponge under your feet due to excessive nests plus they were always
getting into the house.

I used dipel on those about 2 years ago and they are now under
control - not gone completely though. They never fully recovered from
it so the Dipel bacterium must still be actively working in the soil I
assume.


Try it on the Argentinians and let us know. If it does work then also
contact Gardening Australia & pass it on :-)


> Apparently Melbourne where I live has one of the largest single
> colony of Argentinian ants in the world. Why is it so?
> It hasn't got any enemies due to all the colony being related to
> each other...by species...

Not just by species but as a single 'family' colony rather than
seperate colonies with different genetics & pheromones.

> Now if dipel could wipe em out, we'd be much happier...Doesnt work
> on pollies does it?

We can only dream
Permaculture with Bil [ Do, 04 Mai 2006 23:56 ] [ ID #117891 ]

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Permaculture with Bill Mollison wrote:
> "Jonno" <aidplus [at] fastamail.thanu.com.au> wrote in message
> news:445A20E4.9010802 [at] fastamail.thanu.com.au...
>
>> Jonno wrote:
>>
>>> godwin wrote:
>>>
>>>> [/color]
>>>> Feedback if this works please. Dont breathe the dust from this
>>>> stuff
>>>> as it may be harmfull if not observed.
>>>> Really great stuff to stop cabbage flutterbies.
>>>> [/color]
>>>>
>>>> It works great. I originally found out about this from an article
>>>> in
>>>> a
>>>> science magazine some years ago.
>>>>
>>>> I tried it at home as we had persistent termites in the backyard.
>>>> Now
>>>> they are no longer there and they are gone from the surrounding
>>>> properties also. They must travel quite a distance underground.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [/color]
>>>> No white ants but plenty of the black argentinian ants....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Now that's a thought jonno! If DIPEL works on argentinian ants it
>>>> would
>>>> be a sensation. But Argentinians aren't black? They're a honey
>>>> colour. i
>>>> once did an article on Argentinian ants and researched pretty
>>>> thoroughly.
>>>> The ag. board entymologist demonstrated to me that sometimes the
>>>> only way
>>>> to distinguish argentinian ants from other similar species is to
>>>> count
>>>> the 'teeth' on the mandibles under a microscope.
>>>> there's a much darker 'coastal brown ant' that might be your
>>>> problem. But
>>>> your not a whole lot better off if it is :-) but a bit I think. A
>>>> good way of using dipel on white ants would be to insert a capped
>>>> length of PVC pipe into the nearby soil with some slots in the
>>>> side and
>>>> stuffed with paper.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> They are honey coloured.. Yep. Wasn't thinking... :-(
>>>
>
>
> I don't know if it works on them - it does work on the little black
> and smaller brown (not Argentinian) ants that we have here. We had
> such a severe plague of those, so bad that the ground felf like a
> sponge under your feet due to excessive nests plus they were always
> getting into the house.
>
> I used dipel on those about 2 years ago and they are now under
> control - not gone completely though. They never fully recovered from
> it so the Dipel bacterium must still be actively working in the soil I
> assume.
>
>
> Try it on the Argentinians and let us know. If it does work then also
> contact Gardening Australia & pass it on :-)
>
>
>
>> Apparently Melbourne where I live has one of the largest single
>> colony of Argentinian ants in the world. Why is it so?
>> It hasn't got any enemies due to all the colony being related to
>> each other...by species...
>>
>
> Not just by species but as a single 'family' colony rather than
> seperate colonies with different genetics & pheromones.
>
>
>> Now if dipel could wipe em out, we'd be much happier...Doesnt work
>> on pollies does it?
>>
>
> We can only dream
>
>
>
>
PS Dipel also works with tomato grubs...
Whatever theyre called but it seems the tomatoes didnt grow so well this
year. Whats bugging them I wonder...
Anyone have any clues?

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Permaculture with Bill Mollison wrote:
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<pre wrap="">"Jonno" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:aidplus [at] fastamail.thanu.com.au">&lt;aidplus [at] fastamail.thanu.com.au&gt;</a> wrote in message
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="news:445A20E4.9010802 [at] fastamail.thanu.com.au">news:445A20E4.9010802 [at] fastamail.thanu.com.au</a>...
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<pre wrap="">Jonno wrote:
</pre>
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<pre wrap="">godwin wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">[/color]
Feedback if this works please. Dont breathe the dust from this
stuff
as it may be harmfull if not observed.
Really great stuff to stop cabbage flutterbies.
[/color]

It works great. I originally found out about this from an article
in
a
science magazine some years ago.

I tried it at home as we had persistent termites in the backyard.
Now
they are no longer there and they are gone from the surrounding
properties also. They must travel quite a distance underground.

Cheers


[/color]
No white ants but plenty of the black argentinian ants....


Now that's a thought jonno! If DIPEL works on argentinian ants it
would
be a sensation. But Argentinians aren't black? They're a honey
colour. i
once did an article on Argentinian ants and researched pretty
thoroughly.
The ag. board entymologist demonstrated to me that sometimes the
only way
to distinguish argentinian ants from other similar species is to
count
the 'teeth' on the mandibles under a microscope.
there's a much darker 'coastal brown ant' that might be your
problem. But
your not a whole lot better off if it is :-) but a bit I think. A
good way of using dipel on white ants would be to insert a capped
length of PVC pipe into the nearby soil with some slots in the
side and
stuffed with paper.



</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">They are honey coloured.. Yep. Wasn't thinking... :-(
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->

I don't know if it works on them - it does work on the little black
and smaller brown (not Argentinian) ants that we have here. We had
such a severe plague of those, so bad that the ground felf like a
sponge under your feet due to excessive nests plus they were always
getting into the house.

I used dipel on those about 2 years ago and they are now under
control - not gone completely though. They never fully recovered from
it so the Dipel bacterium must still be actively working in the soil I
assume.


Try it on the Argentinians and let us know. If it does work then also
contact Gardening Australia &amp; pass it on :-)


</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Apparently Melbourne where I live has one of the largest single
colony of Argentinian ants in the world. Why is it so?
It hasn't got any enemies due to all the colony being related to
each other...by species...
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->
Not just by species but as a single 'family' colony rather than
seperate colonies with different genetics &amp; pheromones.

</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Now if dipel could wipe em out, we'd be much happier...Doesnt work
on pollies does it?
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->
We can only dream



</pre>
</blockquote>
PS Dipel also works with tomato grubs...<br>
Whatever theyre called but it seems the tomatoes didnt grow so well
this year. Whats bugging them I wonder...<br>
Anyone have any clues? <br>
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Jonno [ Fr, 05 Mai 2006 03:07 ] [ ID #117892 ]

Re: white ants

thanks for the info... i'll get some today. We live in white ant territory
here so it won't go to waste.
cheers

<wtf [at] wtf.wtf> wrote in message news:4459463a [at] news.comindico.com.au...
> "Sandgroper" <carmel_durbidge [at] westnet.com.au> wrote in message
> news:4451bc38$1 [at] quokka.wn.com.au...
> >I noticed what I think to be white ant activity in a gum tree near my
> >vegie
> > garden this morning. Any suggestions on how to save the tree but,
> > more
> > importantly, kill the ants!
> > Cheers, Carmel
>
> Use 'DIPEL' which contains a bacteria, available from any (good)
> garden centre. (intended for caterpillars, but works like a charm)
>
> Mix it up a sachet and pour it around & on the tree, including into
> where you disturbed them (disturb them as much as possible). They will
> carry this bacteria back into the nest & wipe out the whole nest.
>
> It also kills many species of nuisance ants.
>
> Environmentally friendly too.
>
>
Sandgroper [ Fr, 05 Mai 2006 04:05 ] [ ID #117893 ]
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