My husband and I recently moved to Pa and our front yard is quite
expansive.
Owning an acre of property, the back yard is filled with trees.
In that our front yard is bare of any trees we like the Red Maples.
But then coming from New England the burning yellow is also quite nice.

My question is are there other trees beside Maples that will grow
faster?
We have a man who mows and cares for our lawn. He would purchase and
plant the trees in the fall.
Thanks.
Bette

Bette wrote:

> My husband and I recently moved to Pa and our front yard is quite
> expansive.
> Owning an acre of property, the back yard is filled with trees.
> In that our front yard is bare of any trees we like the Red Maples.
> But then coming from New England the burning yellow is also quite nice.
>
> My question is are there other trees beside Maples that will grow
> faster?
> We have a man who mows and cares for our lawn. He would purchase and
> plant the trees in the fall.
> Thanks.
> Bette
>

In general, the faster the growth, the more likely you will have breakge
from wind. Bradford pears ar notorious around here for that.
However, I must say my Chinese (Lacebark) Elm is considered a 'medium'
growing tree but is growing faster than I expected. I like it. Few pest
issues, small leaves, dappled shade, interesting bark. check 'em out

Carl


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Carl 1 Lucky Texan wrote:
> Bette wrote:
>
> > My husband and I recently moved to Pa and our front yard is quite
> > expansive.
> > Owning an acre of property, the back yard is filled with trees.
> > In that our front yard is bare of any trees we like the Red Maples.
> > But then coming from New England the burning yellow is also quite nice.
> In general, the faster the growth, the more likely you will have breakge
> from wind. Bradford pears ar notorious around here for that.
> However, I must say my Chinese (Lacebark) Elm is considered a 'medium'
> growing tree but is growing faster than I expected. I like it. Few pest
> issues, small leaves, dappled shade, interesting bark. check 'em out
>
> Carl

Thank you for your info and for taking the time in doing so. : )
Bette

Carl-
Do you know if that Laceback Elm is also resistant to Misteltoe? I
need to make a tree selection before too long. I have a old Modesto
Ash that is riddled with it, and will require replacement.

Myrl Jeffcoat
http://www.myrljeffcoat.com

Myrl Jeffcoat wrote:
> Carl-
> Do you know if that Laceback Elm is also resistant to Misteltoe? I
> need to make a tree selection before too long. I have a old Modesto
> Ash that is riddled with it, and will require replacement.
>
> Myrl Jeffcoat
> http://www.myrljeffcoat.com
>

I have no idea! What a great question.

a quick 'googling' indicates Chinese Pistache (nice tree, a friend has
one and likes it) might work and be m'toe resistant. Or you might find a
taller variety of Crepe Myrtle and train for a tree-like form.

maybe someone knows of a list of relative reisitance to parasites of
various landscape trees.

Carl


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My favorite fast growning tree (3' a year) is Metasequoia glyptostroboides
(Dawn Redwood). It is a deciduous conifer. Frequently planted as a
specimen tree, but looks good grouped as well.
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"Carl 1 Lucky Texan" <alckytxn [at] swbell.not> wrote in message
news:wAwbg.73737$_S7.69518 [at] newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
> Bette wrote:
>
>> My husband and I recently moved to Pa and our front yard is quite
>> expansive.
>> Owning an acre of property, the back yard is filled with trees.
>> In that our front yard is bare of any trees we like the Red Maples.
>> But then coming from New England the burning yellow is also quite nice.
>>
>> My question is are there other trees beside Maples that will grow
>> faster?
>> We have a man who mows and cares for our lawn. He would purchase and
>> plant the trees in the fall.
>> Thanks.
>> Bette
>>
>
> In general, the faster the growth, the more likely you will have breakge
> from wind. Bradford pears ar notorious around here for that.
> However, I must say my Chinese (Lacebark) Elm is considered a 'medium'
> growing tree but is growing faster than I expected. I like it. Few pest
> issues, small leaves, dappled shade, interesting bark. check 'em out
>
> Carl
>
>
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John Wheeler wrote:
> My favorite fast growning tree (3' a year) is Metasequoia glyptostroboides
> (Dawn Redwood). It is a deciduous conifer. Frequently planted as a
> specimen tree, but looks good grouped as well.
> _________________

Thank you all for your help.
Bette

I'd say we are in search of the "ultimate" perfect tree. . .One that is
beautiful, one that is the right size, one that isn't too messy, and
especially one that is disease and parasite resistant;-)

My ole Modesto Ash trees are way beyond their expected life in years.
The cost of having the Misteltoe taken out of them near annually, is an
expense I hope to shy away from in future years when they become
replaced.

Myrl Jeffcoat
http://www.myrljeffcoat.com

"Bette" <bettebates [at] comcast.net> wrote:

>My question is are there other trees beside Maples that will grow
>faster?

Poplars are a fast growing hardwood.

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I had a Chinese Elm in my back yard years ago that was about 40 ft tall
and you could spend your life just picking up sticks under it.


From Mel & Donnie in Bluebird Valley





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John Hines wrote:
> "Bette" <bettebates [at] comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >My question is are there other trees beside Maples that will grow
> >faster?
>
> Poplars are a fast growing hardwood.

We had poplars at our other house and they nearly drove us crazy, in
that the root system sought out water.
We have a well in our front yard so I might want to choose a differnt
tree.

Today, we noticed the lovely maple trees and how they enhance a bare
yard.
Thanks for you info

Mel M Kelly wrote:
> I had a Chinese Elm in my back yard years ago that was about 40 ft tall
> and you could spend your life just picking up sticks under it.
> From Mel & Donnie in Bluebird Valley

Again thanks for your input. My husband and I like the maple trees and
have most of the summer to choose the ones we want.
Bette

I was out walking the neighborhood and looking at trees today. I found
an absolutely amazing Silver Maple a few blocks from my home.

Anyone, know the good, the bad, and the ugly about Silver Maples???

Myrl Jeffcoat
http://www.myrljeffcoat.com

Myrl Jeffcoat wrote:
> I was out walking the neighborhood and looking at trees today. I found
> an absolutely amazing Silver Maple a few blocks from my home.
>
> Anyone, know the good, the bad, and the ugly about Silver Maples???
>
> Myrl Jeffcoat
> http://www.myrljeffcoat.com

Correct me if I am wrong, but the Silver Maples have a surface root
problems.
OR - my lawn was not fed enough grass.
Thanks Myrl.
Bette

Myrl Jeffcoat wrote:
> I'd say we are in search of the "ultimate" perfect tree. . .One that is
> beautiful, one that is the right size, one that isn't too messy, and
> especially one that is disease and parasite resistant;-)
>
> My ole Modesto Ash trees are way beyond their expected life in years.
> The cost of having the Misteltoe taken out of them near annually, is an
> expense I hope to shy away from in future years when they become
> replaced.
>
> Myrl Jeffcoat
> http://www.myrljeffcoat.com

A very nice maple is Trident Maple, Acer buergeranum
Silver maple is a very weak tree and here in the North Valley
is very disease prone. I don't recommend it.

Look here for trident maple and other trees

http://selectree.cagr.calpoly.edu

Emilie
NorCal

mleblanca wrote:
> A very nice maple is Trident Maple, Acer buergeranum
> Silver maple is a very weak tree and here in the North Valley
> is very disease prone. I don't recommend it.
>
> Look here for trident maple and other trees
>
> http://selectree.cagr.calpoly.edu
>
> Emilie
> NorCal

Again thanks for your help. We had dinner with our son and his family
last night and he wondered why we didn't like the Oak Tree, seeing we
had them at our other house.
The leaves take FOREVER to fall and all those acorns.
Bette

On 20 May 2006 18:35:17 -0700
"Bette" <bettebates [at] comcast.net> wrote:

> John Hines wrote:
> > "Bette" <bettebates [at] comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > >My question is are there other trees beside Maples that will grow
> > >faster?
> >
> > Poplars are a fast growing hardwood.
>
> We had poplars at our other house and they nearly drove us crazy, in
> that the root system sought out water.
> We have a well in our front yard so I might want to choose a differnt
> tree.
>
> Today, we noticed the lovely maple trees and how they enhance a bare
> yard.
> Thanks for you info
>

Hi Bette,

If I read this thread correctly you are looking for specific maple recs?

All maples are shallow rooting, it's a characteristic of the species. I
have not heard that Silver maple is shallower than others, but perhaps
this depends on location etc. I have 3, no lawn problems under any.

I have not heard that A. buergerianum (trident maple) is particulary
fast growing. But it certainly grows at a healthy pace, and is a lovely
tree.

If you want maples, here are some fast growing ones.

A. saccharinum aka Silver maple. Very strong growing but can have some
problems with brittle branches in high winds. Roots can be invasive.

A. pseudoplatanus aka Sycamore maple. Many interesting cultivars to
choose from, variegations etc. Very easy, but may be invasive. A variegated
cultivar (like Leopoldii, beautiful and widely available) will be a little slower but
also less invasive.

A. x freemanii (Many cultivars like Autumn Blaze) Easy, fast growing, good tree.

A. cappadocicum aka Caucasian maple. Beautiful big tree, very strong. Good
grower. Unusual perhaps in many gardens. Nice yellow cultivar 'Aureum' if you
have some shade, but a little slower.

A. platanoides aka Norway maple. Lots of nice varieties to choose from, an
undemanding maple, takes wind well. Less fast growing than pseudoplatanus.

A. campestre aka Field maple. Many great cultivars of all sizes. Some, like
the species, are fast growing.

A. tataricum subs ginalla aka Amur maple. Strong, bushy, takes wind well,
totally undemanding. Great fall color, red samaras in summer against dark
green, fast growing.

I'm sure there are other choices, that's what springs to mind.

HTH,

-E

P.S. Elms do grow fast and have nice yellow fall color. I don't have any
chinese elm, but at least here in France you can now get a dutch elm
disease resistant variety called Ulmus procera Resista or just Ulmus resista.
I have two of these that are growing very well, and fast too.
--
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Emilie-
Thanks for the warning on Silver Maple. . .I have the feeling you've
stopped me from a world of hurt. I'll take a look at Trident Maples
instead.

Myrl Jeffcoat
http://www.myrljeffcoat.com

Myrl Jeffcoat wrote:
> Emilie-
> Thanks for the warning on Silver Maple. . .I have the feeling you've
> stopped me from a world of hurt. I'll take a look at Trident Maples
> instead.
>
> Myrl Jeffcoat
> http://www.myrljeffcoat.com

In that I have not googled it, my husband recalls our first house had
poor landscaping.
We were renting at the time and could not take it upon ourselves to add
top soil and seed.
So I would ask others before you gave up on the Silver Maple.

Thanks again for your response.
Bette

Emery Davis wrote:
> On 20 May 2006 18:35:17 -0700
> Hi Bette,
>
> If I read this thread correctly you are looking for specific maple recs?
>
> All maples are shallow rooting, it's a characteristic of the species. I
> have not heard that Silver maple is shallower than others, but perhaps
> this depends on location etc. I have 3, no lawn problems under any.
>
> I have not heard that A. buergerianum (trident maple) is particulary
> fast growing. But it certainly grows at a healthy pace, and is a lovely
> tree.
>
> If you want maples, here are some fast growing ones.
>
> A. saccharinum aka Silver maple. Very strong growing but can have some
> problems with brittle branches in high winds. Roots can be invasive.
>
> A. pseudoplatanus aka Sycamore maple. Many interesting cultivars to
> choose from, variegations etc. Very easy, but may be invasive. A variegated
> cultivar (like Leopoldii, beautiful and widely available) will be a little slower but
> also less invasive.
>
> A. x freemanii (Many cultivars like Autumn Blaze) Easy, fast growing, good tree.
>
> A. cappadocicum aka Caucasian maple. Beautiful big tree, very strong. Good
> grower. Unusual perhaps in many gardens. Nice yellow cultivar 'Aureum' if you
> have some shade, but a little slower.
>
> A. platanoides aka Norway maple. Lots of nice varieties to choose from, an
> undemanding maple, takes wind well. Less fast growing than pseudoplatanus.
>
> A. campestre aka Field maple. Many great cultivars of all sizes. Some, like
> the species, are fast growing.
>
> A. tataricum subs ginalla aka Amur maple. Strong, bushy, takes wind well,
> totally undemanding. Great fall color, red samaras in summer against dark
> green, fast growing.
> I'm sure there are other choices, that's what springs to mind.
> HTH
> -E
> P.S. Elms do grow fast and have nice yellow fall color. I don't have any
> chinese elm, but at least here in France you can now get a dutch elm
> disease resistant variety called Ulmus procera Resista or just Ulmus resista.
> I have two of these that are growing very well, and fast too.
> --
> Emery Davis


Such a wealth of information. Thanks ever so much.
The man who mows our lawn has helped eliminate the Chickweed and now
our place is looking more like a golf green w/o the dandilions.

Now our neighbors are speaking to us. LOL
Actually we have lovely neighbors with pristine lawns and we would like
to see our area looking nice.

On our way home from church this morning, we saw quite an elaborae
setting for a bare, boring front lawn.
A large area of the plastic picket fencing housed a place for a rock
garden, as well as an area of small bushes and Impatience. On either
side were two flowering trees. : )
Bette

"Bette" <bettebates [at] comcast.net> expounded:

>My husband and I recently moved to Pa and our front yard is quite
>expansive.
>Owning an acre of property, the back yard is filled with trees.
>In that our front yard is bare of any trees we like the Red Maples.
>But then coming from New England the burning yellow is also quite nice.
>
>My question is are there other trees beside Maples that will grow
>faster?
>We have a man who mows and cares for our lawn. He would purchase and
>plant the trees in the fall.
>Thanks.
>Bette

Bette, please try to stick to maples that are native to your area.
Norway maples aren't, and they're very invasive, around here they're
replacing many of our native maples in the woodlands - not a good
thing. They're a nice shade tree, but it's at too high a price.
--
Ann, gardening in Zone 6a
South of Boston, Massachusetts
e-mail address is not checked
******************************

Ann wrote:
> "Bette" <bettebates [at] comcast.net> expounded:
> Bette, please try to stick to maples that are native to your area.
> Norway maples aren't, and they're very invasive, around here they're
> replacing many of our native maples in the woodlands - not a good
> thing. They're a nice shade tree, but it's at too high a price.
> --
> Ann, gardening in Zone 6a
> South of Boston, Massachusetts
> e-mail address is not checked
> ******************************

Ah, Boston. My husband and I hail from Massachusetts. We love the
luscious colors of fall and would enjoy a Red Maple or Sugar Maple, and
only want to plant two or three trees.
Thanks for your input.
Bette

"Bette" <bettebates [at] comcast.net> wrote:

>mleblanca wrote:
>> A very nice maple is Trident Maple, Acer buergeranum
>> Silver maple is a very weak tree and here in the North Valley
>> is very disease prone. I don't recommend it.
>>
>> Look here for trident maple and other trees
>>
>> http://selectree.cagr.calpoly.edu
>>
>> Emilie
>> NorCal
>
>Again thanks for your help. We had dinner with our son and his family
>last night and he wondered why we didn't like the Oak Tree, seeing we
>had them at our other house.
>The leaves take FOREVER to fall and all those acorns.

Try a Pin Oak (don't know the Latin). It is a member of the oak family,
which

a) doesn't have acorns (or ones that grow and fall)
b) The leaves don't fall until the spring time.

I've got one, my folks had one growing up. No mess at all, but a slow
grower. Still a nice tree.

--
If I had something to say, this is where I'd say it.

John Hines wrote:
> "Bette" <bettebates [at] comcast.net> wrote:

Try a Pin Oak (don't know the Latin). It is a member of the oak
family,
> which
> a) doesn't have acorns (or ones that grow and fall)
> b) The leaves don't fall until the spring time.
>
> I've got one, my folks had one growing up. No mess at all, but a slow
> grower. Still a nice tree.

If the leaves fall in the spring time ~ where is the shade for the
summer months?
Perhaps I missunderstood. Thanks for your time in sharing this
interesting tree.
Bette

"Bette" <bettebates [at] comcast.net> expounded:

>If the leaves fall in the spring time ~ where is the shade for the
>summer months?
>Perhaps I missunderstood. Thanks for your time in sharing this
>interesting tree.

Many oaks hold their leaves over the winter (brown) until the new
leaves start to emerge in the spring. It's actually a PITA here,
because you end up having to rake them in the spring, rather than
doing all the leaf raking in the fall. I like oak leaves, however,
for compost, and well-chopped for mulch.
--
Ann, gardening in Zone 6a
South of Boston, Massachusetts
e-mail address is not checked
******************************

Ann wrote:
> "Bette" <bettebates [at] comcast.net> expounded:
>
> >If the leaves fall in the spring time ~ where is the shade for the
> >summer months?
> >Perhaps I missunderstood. Thanks for your time in sharing this
> >interesting tree.
>
> Many oaks hold their leaves over the winter (brown) until the new
> leaves start to emerge in the spring. It's actually a PITA here,
> because you end up having to rake them in the spring, rather than
> doing all the leaf raking in the fall. I like oak leaves, however,
> for compost, and well-chopped for mulch.

Now that makes sense. Thanks
Years ago my father taught me how to hold a rifle, stand, breath and
fire. It was a .22 Rimfire rifle and I shot my first deer. Not only
did I have to learn how to hunt but also field dress the animal - or
skinning. I was fifteen and it was great.
For the past several years I have enjoyed hunting deer with my son and
his buddies in Pa.
Combining the sport of horseback riding and hunting was a blast.
I used acorns to lure or track deer. That was the only time an acorn
found favour in my life.

Then we went to Maine to hunt Black Bear. Again the guys were
responsible for transporting horses as we made our way through a dense
forest.
But, it was the Greenhead flies that drove us and the horses nuts.
Never did see a bear that day, so we ended up just riding for the day.
Bette

John Hines wrote:
> "Bette" <bettebates [at] comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >My question is are there other trees beside Maples that will grow
> >faster?
> Poplars are a fast growing hardwood.

John thanks for your help. Yesterday we spent some time with our
landscaper.
We decided up on a row of Blue Spruce, eliminating the leaves in the
fall.
Bette