http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article549515. ece
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon

Sacha wrote:
> http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article549515. ece

Fantastic news and forget the hippy looks indeed :o)

On 21 May 2006 04:15:05 -0700, "Sacha" <sachaH [at] garden506.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

> http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article549515. ece

Great news Sacha, and well said!

Anyone going to be there on Thursday?

Pam in Bristol

On 21 May 2006 04:15:05 -0700, "Sacha" <sachaH [at] garden506.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

> http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article549515. ece

This was discussed on GQT today also. Did Ihear right that Carol
Klein's talks on plants are only availble to digital viewers? That's
not fair.
DG is certainly out of favour for his compost adverts!

Pam in Bristol

On Sun, 21 May 2006 12:25:24 GMT, Pam Moore
<NOSpam.moore [at] NOSPAMvirgin.net> wrote:

>
>On 21 May 2006 04:15:05 -0700, "Sacha" <sachaH [at] garden506.fsnet.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>> http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article549515. ece
>
>Great news Sacha, and well said!

Having had a look ahead at the Sky programme guide and looked at the
programme descriptions for each night's coverage of Chelsea I had
detected a change in emphasis.

Hopefully there will be a better balance.

>Anyone going to be there on Thursday?

Yes - my very first visit to Chelsea. I just hope the weather forecast
improves [1] and that the site is not too muddy.

[1] still we do need the rain so shouldn't complain.
--
Paul C

"Sacha" <sachaH [at] garden506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article549515. ece
> --
> Sacha
> www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
> South Devon


Looking at that list of presenters I'll bet Dr Stefan Buczacki
is still kicking himself.

Trying to lure the GQT regulars away to Classic FM, must be one
of the worst career moves made by anyone, in a very long time.

He's not even mentioned on the BBC Gardening Presenters page
either. Totally written out of history. Though he's still alive
and kicking, apparently.

http://www.stefanbuczacki.co.uk/profile.html

Shame Roy Lancaster never got a mention however, a very
knowledgable plantsman in the opinion of many.


michael adams







>

Pam Moore wrote:
> On 21 May 2006 04:15:05 -0700, "Sacha" <sachaH [at] garden506.fsnet.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> > http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article549515. ece
>
> This was discussed on GQT today also. Did Ihear right that Carol
> Klein's talks on plants are only availble to digital viewers? That's
> not fair.
> DG is certainly out of favour for his compost adverts!
>
The design he submitted for this year's Chelsea was rejected, so that
may have had some bearing on the matter, too.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon

Pam Moore wrote:
> On 21 May 2006 04:15:05 -0700, "Sacha" <sachaH [at] garden506.fsnet.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> > http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article549515. ece
>
> Great news Sacha, and well said!

Thanks, Pam. It does show that if enough people put enough pressure
on, we CAN make a difference and get the sort of programmes viewers
want to see, not just the kind that producers want to mess about with!
Maybe, at last, we shall have a return to gardening programmes that are
about plants and gardens, not about talking heads.
I've always thought that Mike Nelhams of the Abbey Gardens on Tresco
and Keith Wiley, late of The Garden House at Buckland Monachorum,
would be excellent TV garden presenters, too.
>
> Anyone going to be there on Thursday?
>
No, we're hoping to go to Hampton Court on 5th July, all being well.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon

"Sacha" <sachaH [at] garden506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote
> http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article549515. ece

Hooray for that news, and well done Sacha et al. So somebody was
listening after all! It'll be interesting to see how they've tackled
changes to this year's coverage.

I see the Independent's reporters are among those who don't know the
difference between a Usenet newsgroup and an online message board, but
I'm glad the "gurning tv presenters" quote got mentioned. That
definitely summed the frustration up in one memorable phrase! :)

--
Sue

>
> Hooray for that news, and well done Sacha et al. So somebody was
> listening after all!

Indeed!!

Sacha has spoke!!

Mike

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Sue wrote:
> "Sacha" <sachaH [at] garden506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote
> > http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article549515. ece
>
> Hooray for that news, and well done Sacha et al. So somebody was
> listening after all! It'll be interesting to see how they've tackled
> changes to this year's coverage.
>
> I see the Independent's reporters are among those who don't know the
> difference between a Usenet newsgroup and an online message board, but
> I'm glad the "gurning tv presenters" quote got mentioned. That
> definitely summed the frustration up in one memorable phrase! :)
>
To be fair to the writers of that piece, I don't think they'd used
newsgroups before! David Randall rang me on Thursday and told me that
the complaints had been taken seriously and were having an effect.
IIRC, he said that his brother had said something about complaints so
he (DR) decided to start researching the subject and a computer session
turned up urg. He's a keen gardener himself and is as frustrated as
most of us by the poor coverage of such shows as Chelsea in the past.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon

"Sacha" <sachaH [at] garden506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1148210105.423778.23380 [at] 38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article549515. ece
> --
> Sacha
> www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
> South Devon
>

Excellent. Well done Ms Sacha

In message <1148226349.121600.222230 [at] i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
Sacha <sachaH [at] garden506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote

>He's a keen gardener himself and is as frustrated as
>most of us by the poor coverage of such shows as Chelsea in the past.

Most of the coverage on Chelsea is not about REAL gardening - it's the
same as those instant garden makeover TV programs.

--
Alan
news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com

--
> > Sacha
> > www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
> > South Devon
> >
>
> Excellent. Well done Ms Sacha
>
and so say all of us :-)))

Kate Morgan wrote:
> --
> > > Sacha
> > > www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
> > > South Devon
> > >
> >
> > Excellent. Well done Ms Sacha
> >
> and so say all of us :-)))

Certainly. Meanwhile, back at the box...I rate it "so far, so good".
Plenty of plants, and I very much liked the Beardshaw background to his
exhibit. And those wonderful kids, and of course their great teacher,
with their orchids! The helicopter bit with Swift pretending to spot
Titch made my heart sink, though: "Uh-oh! Here they go again!" But in
fact they didn't, by and large.

I wondered why the expensive borehole (the drought precautions were
inevitably, and genuinely, funny given the weather) so close to the
river. Is the river water brackish at Chelsea? (Shows how much I know,
I suppose.)

--
Mike.

In message <1148241138.324402.33990 [at] i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Mike
Lyle <mike_lyle_uk [at] yahoo.co.uk> writes
>
>I wondered why the expensive borehole (the drought precautions were
>inevitably, and genuinely, funny given the weather) so close to the
>river. Is the river water brackish at Chelsea? (Shows how much I know,
>I suppose.)
>
The Thames is tidal to well above Chelsea. (IIRC, the classic head of
tide is Teddington.)
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:
> In message <1148241138.324402.33990 [at] i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Mike
> Lyle <mike_lyle_uk [at] yahoo.co.uk> writes
> >
> >I wondered why the expensive borehole (the drought precautions were
> >inevitably, and genuinely, funny given the weather) so close to the
> >river. Is the river water brackish at Chelsea? (Shows how much I know,
> >I suppose.)
> >
> The Thames is tidal to well above Chelsea. (IIRC, the classic head of
> tide is Teddington.)

Oh, sure. But I wondered if that was just fresh water being pushed in
and out by the sea, rather than sea water mixing in. You can perhaps
tell I'm no Londoner.

--
Mike.

Mike Lyle wrote:
> Kate Morgan wrote:
> > --
> > > > Sacha
> > > > www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
> > > > South Devon
> > > >
> > >
> > > Excellent. Well done Ms Sacha
> > >
> > and so say all of us :-)))
>
> Certainly.

Of course, I did it all alone, you know! Serioiusly, I'm glad that
public opinion has led to a revamp.


>Meanwhile, back at the box...I rate it "so far, so good".
> Plenty of plants, and I very much liked the Beardshaw background to his
> exhibit. And those wonderful kids, and of course their great teacher,
> with their orchids!

Weren't they absolutely fantastic? We were just riveted by them.

>The helicopter bit with Swift pretending to spot
> Titch made my heart sink, though: "Uh-oh! Here they go again!" But in
> fact they didn't, by and large.

Our reaction was just the same. We groaned and said "same old, same
old" for those few seconds but it didn't develop that theme too far,
thank goodness and the exchanges between Alan and Joe were light
hearted but brief and their manner was extremely professional, we
thought. It has to strike a balance between informative and
entertainment but in the past, has gone too far in the latter
direction. Now on tonight's showing alone, 'back to informative' seems
to be the inclination and so far, so good. We really did enjoy
tonight's programme. And wasn't it a real joy to see plant names on
the screen instead of that frustrating thing of "what was THAT" when
something new and delectable appears but unidentified!
>
> I wondered why the expensive borehole (the drought precautions were
> inevitably, and genuinely, funny given the weather) so close to the
> river. Is the river water brackish at Chelsea? (Shows how much I know,
> I suppose.)
>
Pass. I have no idea but I do know that an awful lot of money has gone
into Chelsea-the-site over the years, such as electrical cables etc.
which are permanent fixtures the public never sees, so I think they
are unlikely to waste their money on water that will harm the entire
core of the Show.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon

"Sacha" <sachaH [at] garden506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1148210105.423778.23380 [at] 38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article549515. ece
> --
> Sacha
> www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
> South Devon

Boggle!!
It's funny you should post that Sacha, because I was going to start a new
thread saying that they haven't learnt much !!!!

There was STILL a lot of AT and the other presenters waffling on about not
much.

Then all that stuff about Da Vinci - could not see the point of that at all.

I was thinking that maybe I won't be watching the rest of the week if it's
going to be like this...............

Jenny

JennyC wrote:
> "Sacha" <sachaH [at] garden506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1148210105.423778.23380 [at] 38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article549515. ece
> > --
> > Sacha
> > www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
> > South Devon
>
> Boggle!!
> It's funny you should post that Sacha, because I was going to start a new
> thread saying that they haven't learnt much !!!!
>
> There was STILL a lot of AT and the other presenters waffling on about not
> much.
>
> Then all that stuff about Da Vinci - could not see the point of that at all.
>
> I was thinking that maybe I won't be watching the rest of the week if it's
> going to be like this...............
>
> Jenny

Chelsea hasn't started yet. The gardens and the stands weren't
completed by the time we watched last night, so this was just a
'taster'. I don't think we can criticise them for not showing what
wasn't there! One of the problems the BBC and the gardeners had
yesterday was the truly appalling weather. It chucked it down most of
the time and we've had very high winds, too (A friend has just told me
that his boat in Weymouth has been sunk!) so I think it more than
probable that a lot of what the Beeb had planned to show us or people
they hoped to talk to, just wasn't available. If you remember, one of
the presenters is also one of those showing and he said they were still
trying to get painting done, in between downpours. I think the Beeb
had to do a fair bit of 'padding' in between. When the helicopter
thing first started, we did think it was going to be back to the old
formula but in fact, decided that showing the extent of the layout of
the Show was interesting and probably even more so to those who have
never been. I thought it a good thing that AT pointed out that there
are other, smaller gardens than the ones that make the big splashy news
and that he told potential visitors where to find them, for example.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon

Rupert (W.Yorkshire) wrote:
> "Sacha" <sachaH [at] garden506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1148210105.423778.23380 [at] 38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article549515. ece
> > --
> > Sacha
> > www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
> > South Devon
> >
>
> Excellent. Well done Ms Sacha

Kewl!
I am surprised and impressed!

Des "Astonished in Dublin"

In message <1148290315.159431.92390 [at] u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>, Sacha
<sachaH [at] garden506.fsnet.co.uk> writes
>One of the problems the BBC and the gardeners had yesterday was the
>truly appalling weather. It chucked it down most of the time and we've
>had very high winds, too (A friend has just told me that his boat in
>Weymouth has been sunk!) so I think it more than probable that a lot
>of what the Beeb had planned to show us or people they hoped to talk
>to, just wasn't available.

Judging by very short forays into the garden, it won't be much better
today! Am looking forward to seeing what they come up with! - Or what,
indeed, isn't up yet ...


--
Klara, Gatwick basin

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Janet Baraclough wrote:
> The message <4dcv2vF1a2o4qU1 [at] individual.net>
> from "JennyC" <Jenny.squirrel [at] chello.nl> contains these words:
>
>
>
> > Then all that stuff about Da Vinci - could not see the point of that at all.
>
> I enjoyed that bit (though not seeing his notebook handled and pages
> turned with bare hands, boggle; very bad conservation practice!). There
> is life beyond gardening, after all :-)

That was our exact reaction to the handling of the book. We were
aghast!
>
> Given all the current hype and silliness about the Da Vinci code book
> and film, I welcomed a reminder that da Vinci himself was a real person
> with an astonishing range of work and interests very well documented. I
> knew his botanical drawings and painting details but had no idea he also
> designed a major garden.
>
No, we didn't know that either, so in that respect, the sum of our
knowledge has certainly been increased. I think there was always going
to have to be something about that garden and IMO, it was a good idea
to get it into the pre-show coverage. And I liked a lot of the
features of the garden - the idea of the sepia tint of the walls and
the little muriels was a good one, we felt.
It was rather refreshing not to see a load of stainless steel or
coloured balls but I can't say I cared a lot for the pyramid, though I
understand the tie-in.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon

Klara wrote:
> In message <1148290315.159431.92390 [at] u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>, Sacha
> <sachaH [at] garden506.fsnet.co.uk> writes
> >One of the problems the BBC and the gardeners had yesterday was the
> >truly appalling weather. It chucked it down most of the time and we've
> >had very high winds, too (A friend has just told me that his boat in
> >Weymouth has been sunk!) so I think it more than probable that a lot
> >of what the Beeb had planned to show us or people they hoped to talk
> >to, just wasn't available.
>
> Judging by very short forays into the garden, it won't be much better
> today! Am looking forward to seeing what they come up with! - Or what,
> indeed, isn't up yet ...
>
Well, it's still horrible here today - not quite as wet but pretty
windy and with showers still sending people scuttling indoors. As to
what isn't up yet, a fellow exhibitor at the Devon County Show didn't
have one Agapanthus in bloom to show and they're one of his
specialities. ;-( It really has been dire and even though we know
exhibitors at Chelsea bring on or hold back much of what they show,
just moving them into position in this weather must be a total
nightmare.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon

"Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.john [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:313030303930323944719E0270 [at] zetnet.co.uk...

> > Then all that stuff about Da Vinci - could not see the point of that at
all.
>
> I enjoyed that bit (though not seeing his notebook handled and pages
> turned with bare hands, boggle; very bad conservation practice!). There
> is life beyond gardening, after all :-)

....

I didn't see the programme, but at a guess it may have been a
facsimile. Large numbers of them have been produced, both for
scholarly purposes, and for exhibitions etc which would be
almost indistiguishable from the original, even from close up.


michael adams

....


>
> Janet

michael adams wrote:
> "Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.john [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:313030303930323944719E0270 [at] zetnet.co.uk...
>
> > > Then all that stuff about Da Vinci - could not see the point of that at
> all.
> >
> > I enjoyed that bit (though not seeing his notebook handled and pages
> > turned with bare hands, boggle; very bad conservation practice!). There
> > is life beyond gardening, after all :-)
>
> ...
>
> I didn't see the programme, but at a guess it may have been a
> facsimile. Large numbers of them have been produced, both for
> scholarly purposes, and for exhibitions etc which would be
> almost indistiguishable from the original, even from close up.
>
>
I hope you're right. I don't remember the exact wordiing of the
commentary now but it *sounded* as if we were seeing the real thing to
my trusting ears.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon

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"Pam Moore" <NOSpam.moore [at] NOSPAMvirgin.net> wrote
> "Sacha" <sachaH [at] garden506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>> http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article549515. ece
>
> This was discussed on GQT today also. Did Ihear right that Carol
> Klein's talks on plants are only availble to digital viewers? That's
> not fair.
> DG is certainly out of favour for his compost adverts!

It's certainly a shame to deprive anyone of Carol Klein's contributions.
I've just watched her 'Walks' part of today's interactive content and I
must say it was extremely informative and immensely enjoyable. I do hope
you can manage to see it somehow Pam. Carol is a natural to do that part
since she obviously knows most of the exhibitors personally, and is so
knowledgeable about all the plants, taking time to show and describe
many of the most interesting varieties on each stand she visits. She's
also such a fluent speaker and presenter that she's a joy to listen to;
much better than C. Dimmock, whose reading from an autocue on the BBC1
slots seemed as wooden as usual.

Well done so far to the Beeb. If only they can keep a rein on
Titchmarsh's worst "humorous banter" interludes (e.g. the silly giggling
over R de T's shoes) it's shaping up to be an enjoyable week's viewing.

--
Sue

On Tue, 23 May 2006 01:45:19 +0100, "Sue"
<sue [at] allegedly.spamless.plus.com> wrote:

"Pam Moore" <NOSpam.moore [at] NOSPAMvirgin.net> wrote
>> "Sacha" <sachaH [at] garden506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>>> http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article549515. ece
>>
>> This was discussed on GQT today also. Did Ihear right that Carol
>> Klein's talks on plants are only availble to digital viewers? That's
>> not fair.
>> DG is certainly out of favour for his compost adverts!
>
>It's certainly a shame to deprive anyone of Carol Klein's contributions.
>I've just watched her 'Walks' part of today's interactive content and I
>must say it was extremely informative and immensely enjoyable. I do hope
>you can manage to see it somehow Pam. Carol is a natural to do that part
>since she obviously knows most of the exhibitors personally, and is so
>knowledgeable about all the plants, taking time to show and describe
>many of the most interesting varieties on each stand she visits. She's
>also such a fluent speaker and presenter that she's a joy to listen to;
>much better than C. Dimmock, whose reading from an autocue on the BBC1
>slots seemed as wooden as usual.

It was most enjoyable as her knowledge and personality showed through in
a way you don't quite see on Gardeners World. I'm getting quite excited
about my visit given the preview so far.

For those who can't get digital surely the simplest answer is for
someone on the group to record each session - especially as they are on
a rolling cycle each day - and then burn to a DVD capturing the week's
information. I don't possess a DVD player / recorder but someone on the
group surely does?
--
Paul C

Sue wrote:
> "Pam Moore" <NOSpam.moore [at] NOSPAMvirgin.net> wrote
> > "Sacha" <sachaH [at] garden506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> >> http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article549515. ece
> >
> > This was discussed on GQT today also. Did Ihear right that Carol
> > Klein's talks on plants are only availble to digital viewers? That's
> > not fair.
> > DG is certainly out of favour for his compost adverts!
>
> It's certainly a shame to deprive anyone of Carol Klein's contributions.
> I've just watched her 'Walks' part of today's interactive content and I
> must say it was extremely informative and immensely enjoyable. I do hope
> you can manage to see it somehow Pam. Carol is a natural to do that part
> since she obviously knows most of the exhibitors personally, and is so
> knowledgeable about all the plants, taking time to show and describe
> many of the most interesting varieties on each stand she visits.
<snip>

Carol is a very good presenter, IMO when she's allowed to get on with
it and given enough time to develop her theme, rather than those choppy
little bits we see of her on GW. She's an extremely knowledgeable
plantswoman and her passion for her subject comes over well, I agree.
We visited her nursery last year, just after Chelsea and she said then
that she wouldn't be exhibiting again, though I rather doubt she knew
at that stage, just how involved she would be this year! She certainly
would know most if not all, of the exhibitors as some of them go to
every show there is and many go to a lot of them. We met one man last
week who does 60 shows a year - I can't imagine how! And some of the
big nurseries have a person who does nothing but shows for them,
designs them, sets them up, organises the selling etc. A famous
nursery in the south west has an ex-nurseryman who gave up his own
place some way away but has taken over all their show management for
them.
Like you, we enjoyed watching Carol Klein last night and hope she gets
to do a lot more. So far, the coverage is shaping up very well, we
thought and found it to be a really huge improvement on previous years.
I do think a little levity is allowed!! It's not Newsnight or
Panorama, after all and we felt the balance was just right yesterday.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon

> So far, the coverage is shaping up very well,

To your approval? Soooooooooo pleased.

'suppose this thread will go on for ""ever"" supported by the "sacha
appreciation society' ... :-(

Mike


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"Mike" <not [at] here.thanks> wrote in message
news:tv2dnWIUHb1ioe7ZRVny1A [at] bt.com...
> > So far, the coverage is shaping up very well,
>
> To your approval? Soooooooooo pleased.
>
> 'suppose this thread will go on for ""ever"" supported by the "sacha
> appreciation society' ... :-(
>
> Mike
>
Its not compulsory to read threads!

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)

> >
> Its not compulsory to read threads!
>
> --
> Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
> http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
> Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)
>
>

:-))

'We' now have our surname after 'our' name in postings now it has been in
the press you know ;-))

Mike


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In message <1148295735.181898.7720 [at] y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, Sacha
<sachaH [at] garden506.fsnet.co.uk> writes
>
>Klara wrote:
>> In message <1148290315.159431.92390 [at] u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>, Sacha
>> <sachaH [at] garden506.fsnet.co.uk> writes
>> >One of the problems the BBC and the gardeners had yesterday was the
>> >truly appalling weather. It chucked it down most of the time and we've
>> >had very high winds, too (A friend has just told me that his boat in
>> >Weymouth has been sunk!) so I think it more than probable that a lot
>> >of what the Beeb had planned to show us or people they hoped to talk
>> >to, just wasn't available.
>>
>> Judging by very short forays into the garden, it won't be much better
>> today! Am looking forward to seeing what they come up with! - Or what,
>> indeed, isn't up yet ...
>>
>Well, it's still horrible here today - not quite as wet but pretty
>windy and with showers still sending people scuttling indoors. As to
>what isn't up yet, a fellow exhibitor at the Devon County Show didn't
>have one Agapanthus in bloom to show and they're one of his
>specialities. ;-( It really has been dire and even though we know
>exhibitors at Chelsea bring on or hold back much of what they show,
>just moving them into position in this weather must be a total
>nightmare.

I may have missed it elsewhere in this ng and if I have, I apologise but
aren't you going to tell your good news?
--
June Hughes

>
> I may have missed it elsewhere in this ng and if I have, I apologise but
> aren't you going to tell your good news?
> --
> June Hughes

!!!!!!

OH WUNDERFUL June, she can gloat again and stretch the thread even
fffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrtttttttttthhhhhhhhhh eeeeeeeerrrrrrrr
r

Mike CROWE


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On Wed, 24 May 2006 15:21:39 +0100, June Hughes wrote
(in article <sCDsAlBzvGdEFwHQ [at] theacct.demon.co.uk>):

> In message <1148295735.181898.7720 [at] y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, Sacha
> <sachaH [at] garden506.fsnet.co.uk> writes
>>
>> Klara wrote:
>>> In message <1148290315.159431.92390 [at] u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>, Sacha
>>> <sachaH [at] garden506.fsnet.co.uk> writes
>>>> One of the problems the BBC and the gardeners had yesterday was the
>>>> truly appalling weather. It chucked it down most of the time and we've
>>>> had very high winds, too (A friend has just told me that his boat in
>>>> Weymouth has been sunk!) so I think it more than probable that a lot
>>>> of what the Beeb had planned to show us or people they hoped to talk
>>>> to, just wasn't available.
>>>
>>> Judging by very short forays into the garden, it won't be much better
>>> today! Am looking forward to seeing what they come up with! - Or what,
>>> indeed, isn't up yet ...
>>>
>> Well, it's still horrible here today - not quite as wet but pretty
>> windy and with showers still sending people scuttling indoors. As to
>> what isn't up yet, a fellow exhibitor at the Devon County Show didn't
>> have one Agapanthus in bloom to show and they're one of his
>> specialities. ;-( It really has been dire and even though we know
>> exhibitors at Chelsea bring on or hold back much of what they show,
>> just moving them into position in this weather must be a total
>> nightmare.
>
> I may have missed it elsewhere in this ng and if I have, I apologise but
> aren't you going to tell your good news?
>

Thank you for asking! It's hardly on a par with Chelsea, though the judge
says he works to RHS standards! It's overwhelmingly an agricultural show so
the flower and garden exhibits are a tiny part of it. However, we got a
Silver Gilt medal at the Devon County Show and are quite pleased with that as
it's our first effort. We were just a blip away from a gold, according to
the judge, so that's nice to know. The worst of it is that I've lost my
digital camera that had the only photographs on it. I'm still hoping it will
turn up somewhere but am not over-optimistic. ;-(
The theme was Where Town meets Country so we had our more 'sophisticated'
conservatory plants in the town bit which was edged with paving stones and
then as we moved towards the Country, we had an old wooden gate and a table
and chair with a cream tea on them, plus a windvane which has a man in a
greenhouse, a woman with a teatray and a dog in a wheelbarrow on it (!) lots
of plants all clustered round that and tapering off towards a tree fern and a
lot of other garden goodies. The Country bit was edged with gravel so there
was that, plus the gate, to give the delineation between the two. We got
loads of compliments, a lot of real interest and some new customers, so
hopefully, it was worth all the very hard work. The interesting thing is
that out of all the plants we showed - and there were a LOT - the one that
aroused most interest was a large and very beautiful Nicotiana mutabilis,
which probably goes to prove that pretty and delicate win hands down!

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
email address on web site

NO NO NO NO Sacha, she means your article in the NATIONAL newspaper where
you tell the BBC how to report the show!!!!!!

Mike

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"Sacha Hubbard" <sacha [at] privacy.net> wrote in message
news:0001HW.C09A3C46001C490CF0284550 [at] news.individual.net...
> On Wed, 24 May 2006 15:21:39 +0100, June Hughes wrote
> (in article <sCDsAlBzvGdEFwHQ [at] theacct.demon.co.uk>):
>
> > In message <1148295735.181898.7720 [at] y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, Sacha
> > <sachaH [at] garden506.fsnet.co.uk> writes
> >>
> >> Klara wrote:
> >>> In message <1148290315.159431.92390 [at] u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>,
Sacha
> >>> <sachaH [at] garden506.fsnet.co.uk> writes
> >>>> One of the problems the BBC and the gardeners had yesterday was the
> >>>> truly appalling weather. It chucked it down most of the time and
we've
> >>>> had very high winds, too (A friend has just told me that his boat
in
> >>>> Weymouth has been sunk!) so I think it more than probable that a lot
> >>>> of what the Beeb had planned to show us or people they hoped to talk
> >>>> to, just wasn't available.
> >>>
> >>> Judging by very short forays into the garden, it won't be much better
> >>> today! Am looking forward to seeing what they come up with! - Or what,
> >>> indeed, isn't up yet ...
> >>>
> >> Well, it's still horrible here today - not quite as wet but pretty
> >> windy and with showers still sending people scuttling indoors. As to
> >> what isn't up yet, a fellow exhibitor at the Devon County Show didn't
> >> have one Agapanthus in bloom to show and they're one of his
> >> specialities. ;-( It really has been dire and even though we know
> >> exhibitors at Chelsea bring on or hold back much of what they show,
> >> just moving them into position in this weather must be a total
> >> nightmare.
> >
> > I may have missed it elsewhere in this ng and if I have, I apologise but
> > aren't you going to tell your good news?
> >
>
> Thank you for asking! It's hardly on a par with Chelsea, though the judge
> says he works to RHS standards! It's overwhelmingly an agricultural show
so
> the flower and garden exhibits are a tiny part of it. However, we got a
> Silver Gilt medal at the Devon County Show and are quite pleased with that
as
> it's our first effort. We were just a blip away from a gold, according to
> the judge, so that's nice to know. The worst of it is that I've lost my
> digital camera that had the only photographs on it. I'm still hoping it
will
> turn up somewhere but am not over-optimistic. ;-(
> The theme was Where Town meets Country so we had our more 'sophisticated'
> conservatory plants in the town bit which was edged with paving stones and
> then as we moved towards the Country, we had an old wooden gate and a
table
> and chair with a cream tea on them, plus a windvane which has a man in a
> greenhouse, a woman with a teatray and a dog in a wheelbarrow on it (!)
lots
> of plants all clustered round that and tapering off towards a tree fern
and a
> lot of other garden goodies. The Country bit was edged with gravel so
there
> was that, plus the gate, to give the delineation between the two. We got
> loads of compliments, a lot of real interest and some new customers, so
> hopefully, it was worth all the very hard work. The interesting thing is
> that out of all the plants we showed - and there were a LOT - the one that
> aroused most interest was a large and very beautiful Nicotiana mutabilis,
> which probably goes to prove that pretty and delicate win hands down!
>
> --
> Sacha
> www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
> South Devon
> email address on web site
>

Sorry

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"Mike" <not [at] here.thanks> wrote in message
news:OIqdnYJRsbE24-nZnZ2dnUVZ8s6dnZ2d [at] bt.com...
> NO NO NO NO Sacha, she means your article in the NATIONAL newspaper where
> you tell the BBC how to report the show!!!!!!
>
> Mike CROWE

Hows that ? :-)
>
> --
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> www.rnshipmates.co.uk
> International Festival of the Sea 28th June - 1st July 2007
>
>
> "Sacha Hubbard" <sacha [at] privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:0001HW.C09A3C46001C490CF0284550 [at] news.individual.net...
> > On Wed, 24 May 2006 15:21:39 +0100, June Hughes wrote
> > (in article <sCDsAlBzvGdEFwHQ [at] theacct.demon.co.uk>):
> >
> > > In message <1148295735.181898.7720 [at] y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
Sacha
> > > <sachaH [at] garden506.fsnet.co.uk> writes
> > >>
> > >> Klara wrote:
> > >>> In message <1148290315.159431.92390 [at] u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>,
> Sacha
> > >>> <sachaH [at] garden506.fsnet.co.uk> writes
> > >>>> One of the problems the BBC and the gardeners had yesterday was the
> > >>>> truly appalling weather. It chucked it down most of the time and
> we've
> > >>>> had very high winds, too (A friend has just told me that his boat
> in
> > >>>> Weymouth has been sunk!) so I think it more than probable that a
lot
> > >>>> of what the Beeb had planned to show us or people they hoped to
talk
> > >>>> to, just wasn't available.
> > >>>
> > >>> Judging by very short forays into the garden, it won't be much
better
> > >>> today! Am looking forward to seeing what they come up with! - Or
what,
> > >>> indeed, isn't up yet ...
> > >>>
> > >> Well, it's still horrible here today - not quite as wet but pretty
> > >> windy and with showers still sending people scuttling indoors. As
to
> > >> what isn't up yet, a fellow exhibitor at the Devon County Show didn't
> > >> have one Agapanthus in bloom to show and they're one of his
> > >> specialities. ;-( It really has been dire and even though we know
> > >> exhibitors at Chelsea bring on or hold back much of what they show,
> > >> just moving them into position in this weather must be a total
> > >> nightmare.
> > >
> > > I may have missed it elsewhere in this ng and if I have, I apologise
but
> > > aren't you going to tell your good news?
> > >
> >
> > Thank you for asking! It's hardly on a par with Chelsea, though the
judge
> > says he works to RHS standards! It's overwhelmingly an agricultural
show
> so
> > the flower and garden exhibits are a tiny part of it. However, we got a
> > Silver Gilt medal at the Devon County Show and are quite pleased with
that
> as
> > it's our first effort. We were just a blip away from a gold, according
to
> > the judge, so that's nice to know. The worst of it is that I've lost my
> > digital camera that had the only photographs on it. I'm still hoping it
> will
> > turn up somewhere but am not over-optimistic. ;-(
> > The theme was Where Town meets Country so we had our more
'sophisticated'
> > conservatory plants in the town bit which was edged with paving stones
and
> > then as we moved towards the Country, we had an old wooden gate and a
> table
> > and chair with a cream tea on them, plus a windvane which has a man in
a
> > greenhouse, a woman with a teatray and a dog in a wheelbarrow on it (!)
> lots
> > of plants all clustered round that and tapering off towards a tree fern
> and a
> > lot of other garden goodies. The Country bit was edged with gravel so
> there
> > was that, plus the gate, to give the delineation between the two. We
got
> > loads of compliments, a lot of real interest and some new customers, so
> > hopefully, it was worth all the very hard work. The interesting thing
is
> > that out of all the plants we showed - and there were a LOT - the one
that
> > aroused most interest was a large and very beautiful Nicotiana
mutabilis,
> > which probably goes to prove that pretty and delicate win hands down!
> >
> > --
> > Sacha
> > www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
> > South Devon
> > email address on web site
> >
>
>