Recently moved into a rented property with a pretty neglected garden.
I'm not going to be here all that long but I would still like a semi
pleasant garden for the summer. The only trouble is, I don't have very
green fingers (in fact, they're usually a shade of brown as I'm a
vet!)

Hence, I'm not sure at present whether some of the plants in the garden
are weeds and need shifting or whether they are plants to potentially
keep.

http://www.pbase.com/rikwatson/plants

Here are a couple of photos of 2 plants I'm unsure of.
Any help is very very welcome!!

Many thanks,

Rick


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rikwatson

rikwatson wrote:
> Recently moved into a rented property with a pretty neglected garden.
> I'm not going to be here all that long but I would still like a semi
> pleasant garden for the summer. The only trouble is, I don't have very
> green fingers (in fact, they're usually a shade of brown as I'm a
> vet!)
>
> Hence, I'm not sure at present whether some of the plants in the garden
> are weeds and need shifting or whether they are plants to potentially
> keep.
>
> http://www.pbase.com/rikwatson/plants
>
> Here are a couple of photos of 2 plants I'm unsure of.
> Any help is very very welcome!!

The first might be honeysuckle (Lonicera)? Is it sort of
climbing/trailing over other plants with long weak stems? If it is, it
is usually a nice plant and attracts insects and sometimes smells nice.
It is easy to tell when it flowers.

The second looks familiar but I cannot guess. It will flower soon by
the looks of it and you will get an answer then if no one spots it now.
Wild guess: Lychnic chalcedonica which has vivid scarlet flowers or
Epilobium hirsutum (hairy willowherb) which has pinky/mauve flowers and
is a weed for some people. They are vague guesses.


>
> Many thanks,
>
> Rick
>
>
> --
> rikwatson

dazzhiggins [at] hotmail.com wrote:
> The first might be honeysuckle (Lonicera)?

It is. And it's a summer flowering one too. Lucky sausage indeed.

> The second looks familiar but I cannot guess. It will flower soon by
> the looks of it and you will get an answer then if no one spots it now.
> Wild guess: Lychnic chalcedonica

No. Lychnic leaves are lighter and with a duvet fluff on them.

which has vivid scarlet flowers or
> Epilobium hirsutum (hairy willowherb) which has pinky/mauve flowers and
> is a weed for some people. They are vague guesses.

No. The leaves of the Epilobium are serrated and the stems are hairy.
The name's at the tip of me tongue!!!!!!

rikwatson wrote:
> http://www.pbase.com/rikwatson/plants

I've got it! I think it's Bergamot, monarda - it is it you are a very
lucky person :o)

> rikwatson wrote:
>
>>Recently moved into a rented property with a pretty neglected garden.
>>I'm not going to be here all that long but I would still like a semi
>>pleasant garden for the summer. The only trouble is, I don't have very
>>green fingers (in fact, they're usually a shade of brown as I'm a
>>vet!)
>>
>>Hence, I'm not sure at present whether some of the plants in the garden
>>are weeds and need shifting or whether they are plants to potentially
>>keep.
>>
>>http://www.pbase.com/rikwatson/plants
>>
>>Here are a couple of photos of 2 plants I'm unsure of.
>>Any help is very very welcome!!

what about Lysimachia punctata for number 2?

see here for a comparison:

http://www.habitas.org.uk/gardenflora/lysimachia_punctata.ht m

Philippe

Philippe Gautier wrote:
> what about Lysimachia punctata for number 2?
> see here for a comparison:
> http://www.habitas.org.uk/gardenflora/lysimachia_punctata.ht m

HOOoooo, close. Perhaps we ought to wait to see the colors of the
flowers. I'm in for Bergamot :o)

La Puce wrote:
> Philippe Gautier wrote:
>
>>what about Lysimachia punctata for number 2?
>>see here for a comparison:
>> http://www.habitas.org.uk/gardenflora/lysimachia_punctata.ht m
>
>
> HOOoooo, close. Perhaps we ought to wait to see the colors of the
> flowers. I'm in for Bergamot :o)
>
Have to say that was my second choice ;-)

La Puce wrote:
> Philippe Gautier wrote:
> > what about Lysimachia punctata for number 2?
> > see here for a comparison:
> > http://www.habitas.org.uk/gardenflora/lysimachia_punctata.ht m
>
> HOOoooo, close. Perhaps we ought to wait to see the colors of the
> flowers. I'm in for Bergamot :o)

I'll go with that (Monarda).

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Philippe Gautier wrote:
> La Puce wrote:
> > HOOoooo, close. Perhaps we ought to wait to see the colors of the
> > flowers. I'm in for Bergamot :o)
> >
> Have to say that was my second choice ;-)

Lysimachia is very much it <bumer> ;o)

<dazzhiggins [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1148460866.996375.163040 [at] j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> rikwatson wrote:
>> Recently moved into a rented property with a pretty neglected garden.
>> I'm not going to be here all that long but I would still like a semi
>> pleasant garden for the summer. The only trouble is, I don't have very
>> green fingers (in fact, they're usually a shade of brown as I'm a
>> vet!)

You'll be all right for manure then? :-))

Steve

the one on the left is almost certainly a honeysuckle. u can't be sure
of the exact variety until it flowers although it looks very much like
a Lonicera periclymenum


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Tiger303

rikwatson <rikwatson.28ay7z [at] gardenbanter.co.uk> writes
>
>Recently moved into a rented property with a pretty neglected garden.
>I'm not going to be here all that long but I would still like a semi
>pleasant garden for the summer. The only trouble is, I don't have very
>green fingers (in fact, they're usually a shade of brown as I'm a
>vet!)
>
>Hence, I'm not sure at present whether some of the plants in the garden
>are weeds and need shifting or whether they are plants to potentially
>keep.

A weed is simply a plant where you don't want it. If you like the plant
and it's not crowding out other things that you like more, then keep it.
It's purely personal decision (just don't let it go to seed if your
neighbour takes the opposite view of it)
>
>http://www.pbase.com/rikwatson/plants
>
>Here are a couple of photos of 2 plants I'm unsure of.
>Any help is very very welcome!!
>
L: honeysuckle
R yellow loosestrife (Lysimachia punctata)- strange yellow flowers with
the petals all fused at the base, so when the flower is over it falls
off in one single piece. Used to be in almost every garden, now less
popular.
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Kay

shazzbat Wrote:
> dazzhiggins [at] hotmail.com wrote in message
> news:1148460866.996375.163040 [at] j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> rikwatson wrote:
> Recently moved into a rented property with a pretty neglected garden.
> I'm not going to be here all that long but I would still like a semi
> pleasant garden for the summer. The only trouble is, I don't have
> very
> green fingers (in fact, they're usually a shade of brown as I'm a
> vet!)
>
> You'll be all right for manure then? :-))
>
> Steve

Plenty of manure, unfortunately usually in rather inappropriate places.
Thanks very much guys for your help - I was about to get stuck in and
dig up the predicted Bergamot so glad you stopped me! I've got a few
more up my sleeve that need naming... Any good websites for identifying
plants?


--
rikwatson

Hi Rick,

> http://www.pbase.com/rikwatson/plants
>
> Here are a couple of photos of 2 plants I'm unsure of.
> Any help is very very welcome!!

I see you've got more pics up now.

I think the third pic is a geranium, will prob have pink/purplish
flowers, likes sun or part shade or even full shade I think (we've
considered it for our back yard, since the snails have eaten my nice
hostas). Not the same as the "geraniums" often grown in pots and
baskets - those are pelargoniums.

I don't know the name of no 4, though I know it as lambs ears. I think
it will have cerise flowers later on in the summer (should it ever
arrive!). Prob drought resistance due to all that hair on the leaves.

No 5 looks like purple sage to me.

I'm sure others more knowledgeable will leap in! I only just found this
NG and am already finding it both useful and fun.

Maggie

On Thu, 25 May 2006 10:43:24 +0100, MaggieW wrote
(in article <44757c39$0$699$fa0fcedb [at] news.zen.co.uk>):

>
> Hi Rick,
>
>> http://www.pbase.com/rikwatson/plants
>>
>> Here are a couple of photos of 2 plants I'm unsure of.
>> Any help is very very welcome!!
>
> I see you've got more pics up now.
>
> I think the third pic is a geranium, will prob have pink/purplish
> flowers, likes sun or part shade or even full shade I think (we've
> considered it for our back yard, since the snails have eaten my nice
> hostas). Not the same as the "geraniums" often grown in pots and
> baskets - those are pelargoniums.

We have lots of this. A very good value plant I think. Easy to grow and
prolific.


> I don't know the name of no 4, though I know it as lambs ears. I think
> it will have cerise flowers later on in the summer (should it ever
> arrive!). Prob drought resistance due to all that hair on the leaves.
>

Isn't that lychnis? I know it as lambs' ears as well!



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Burne-Jones/William Morris window in Shropshire church:
http://www.whitton-stmarys.org.uk

MaggieW wrote:
> Hi Rick,
>
> > http://www.pbase.com/rikwatson/plants
> >
> > Here are a couple of photos of 2 plants I'm unsure of.
> > Any help is very very welcome!!
>
> I see you've got more pics up now.
>
> I think the third pic is a geranium, will prob have pink/purplish
> flowers, likes sun or part shade or even full shade I think (we've
> considered it for our back yard, since the snails have eaten my nice
> hostas). Not the same as the "geraniums" often grown in pots and
> baskets - those are pelargoniums.
>
> I don't know the name of no 4, though I know it as lambs ears. I think

Stachys lanata is posh name for Lamb's ears.
Looks like it alright (and Geranium and purple sage for other 2
agreed).
You are as knowledgeable as most round here Maggie :-).

Des


> it will have cerise flowers later on in the summer (should it ever
> arrive!). Prob drought resistance due to all that hair on the leaves.
>
> No 5 looks like purple sage to me.
>
> I'm sure others more knowledgeable will leap in! I only just found this
> NG and am already finding it both useful and fun.
>
> Maggie

dazzhigg... [at] hotmail.com wrote:
> Stachys lanata is posh name for Lamb's ears.
> Looks like it alright (and Geranium and purple sage for other 2
> agreed).

That's not Stachys (lambs ears). My garden is full of the stuff and the
leaves are narrower and longer. I have the white variety only - it lits
up the garden in the evening. It looks more like the hairy verbascum
with yellow flowers. I had one once but it gave me the creeps.
Thankfully my father in law damaged it so badly while racking our
fallen leaves, I had to get rid of it. Ho shame ;o)

La Puce wrote:
> dazzhigg... [at] hotmail.com wrote:
> > Stachys lanata is posh name for Lamb's ears.
> > Looks like it alright (and Geranium and purple sage for other 2
> > agreed).
>
> That's not Stachys (lambs ears). My garden is full of the stuff and the
> leaves are narrower and longer. I have the white variety only - it lits

looks like it?
http://www.mountainvalleygrowers.com/stalanata.htm
It should have a square cross section stem and leaves in opposite pairs
up the stem?


> up the garden in the evening. It looks more like the hairy verbascum
> with yellow flowers. I had one once but it gave me the creeps.
> Thankfully my father in law damaged it so badly while racking our
> fallen leaves, I had to get rid of it. Ho shame ;o)

verbascum fits the hairy part but I don't think that thing is it;

dazzhigg... [at] hotmail.com wrote:
> looks like it?
> http://www.mountainvalleygrowers.com/stalanata.htm
> It should have a square cross section stem and leaves in opposite pairs
> up the stem?

My mistake - I'm trying to do to many things at one time here. I have
lychnis growing everywhere. The white variety.

> verbascum fits the hairy part but I don't think that thing is it;

Maybe not in such a large clump indeed.

La Puce wrote:
> dazzhigg... [at] hotmail.com wrote:
> > looks like it?
> > http://www.mountainvalleygrowers.com/stalanata.htm
> > It should have a square cross section stem and leaves in opposite pairs
> > up the stem?
>
> My mistake - I'm trying to do to many things at one time here. I have
> lychnis growing everywhere. The white variety.

You are not the only one; someone else refereed to Lychnis as lamb's
ear; common names are confusing, never mind if you try to change
between English and French; Lychnis is Dusty Miller or Rose Campion
but these names get moved around.


>
> > verbascum fits the hairy part but I don't think that thing is it;
>
> Maybe not in such a large clump indeed.

rikwatson <rikwatson.28cc80 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk> writes
>
>shazzbat Wrote:
>> dazzhiggins [at] hotmail.com wrote in message
>> news:1148460866.996375.163040 [at] j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> rikwatson wrote:
>> Recently moved into a rented property with a pretty neglected garden.
>> I'm not going to be here all that long but I would still like a semi
>> pleasant garden for the summer. The only trouble is, I don't have
>>> very
>> green fingers (in fact, they're usually a shade of brown as I'm a
>> vet!)
>>
>> You'll be all right for manure then? :-))
>>
>> Steve
>
>Plenty of manure, unfortunately usually in rather inappropriate places.
>Thanks very much guys for your help - I was about to get stuck in and
>dig up the predicted Bergamot

But it's not bergamot, it's Lysimachia. I have it myself, and can
recognise it. Janet has explained why it's not bergamot

Of your new pics, no 3 is a hardy geranium, no 4 I recognise but don't
like myself so will leave others to identify, and you're right that the
last is a sage.

--
Kay

MaggieW <zennospam38947 [at] zen.co.uk> writes
>
>
>I think the third pic is a geranium, will prob have pink/purplish
>flowers, likes sun or part shade or even full shade I think (we've
>considered it for our back yard, since the snails have eaten my nice
>hostas).

There are many species of geranium, some of which will tolerate shade,
some of which need full sun, so if your back yard is shady, choose
carefully. They flower through the whole range of white, pink, purple,
blue.
I can confirm that they're not troubled by slugs and snails

--
Kay

dazzhiggins [at] hotmail.com writes
>
>La Puce wrote:
>> dazzhigg... [at] hotmail.com wrote:
>> > looks like it?
>> > http://www.mountainvalleygrowers.com/stalanata.htm
>> > It should have a square cross section stem and leaves in opposite pairs
>> > up the stem?
>>
>> My mistake - I'm trying to do to many things at one time here. I have
>> lychnis growing everywhere. The white variety.
>
>You are not the only one; someone else refereed to Lychnis as lamb's
>ear; common names are confusing, never mind if you try to change
>between English and French; Lychnis is Dusty Miller or Rose Campion
>but these names get moved around.
>
I know auricula as dusty miller
--
Kay

K wrote:
> I know auricula as dusty miller

But auricula is a primrose isn't it? And the dusty miller doesn't
flower - has silver leaves and I think Sacha uses it in her hanging
basket as Cenecio or Senesio ... Maybe the name changed by regions?

On Thu, 25 May 2006 21:51:47 +0100, La Puce wrote
(in article <1148590307.728826.229660 [at] j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>):

>
> K wrote:
>> I know auricula as dusty miller
>
> But auricula is a primrose isn't it? And the dusty miller doesn't
> flower - has silver leaves and I think Sacha uses it in her hanging
> basket as Cenecio or Senesio ... Maybe the name changed by regions?
>

Auricula is Primula. We don't use that in hanging baskets but apparently,
the other 'dusty miller' is Senecio cineraria, if I remember that correctly.
Common names *always* change by regions, which is why knowing the Latin name
does help so much and gives a common language to gardeners.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
email address on web site

Sacha Hubbard <sacha [at] privacy.net> writes
>On Thu, 25 May 2006 21:51:47 +0100, La Puce wrote
>(in article <1148590307.728826.229660 [at] j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>):
>
>>
>> K wrote:
>>> I know auricula as dusty miller
>>
>> But auricula is a primrose isn't it?

Auricula is Primula auricula, so is in the same genus as primrose,
Primula vulgaris. It's known as dusty miller because of the flour-like
white dusting on the flowers

--
Kay

K wrote:
> dazzhiggins [at] hotmail.com writes
> >
> >La Puce wrote:
> >> dazzhigg... [at] hotmail.com wrote:
> >> > looks like it?
> >> > http://www.mountainvalleygrowers.com/stalanata.htm
> >> > It should have a square cross section stem and leaves in opposite pairs
> >> > up the stem?
> >>
> >> My mistake - I'm trying to do to many things at one time here. I have
> >> lychnis growing everywhere. The white variety.
> >
> >You are not the only one; someone else refereed to Lychnis as lamb's
> >ear; common names are confusing, never mind if you try to change
> >between English and French; Lychnis is Dusty Miller or Rose Campion
> >but these names get moved around.
> >
> I know auricula as dusty miller

I did say the names were confusing :-)


> --
> Kay

K wrote:
> Auricula is Primula auricula, so is in the same genus as primrose,
> Primula vulgaris.

Primula, I meant primula (where's my head atm!!!)

It's known as dusty miller because of the flour-like
> white dusting on the flowers

HOoooo... there's always a new story to a plant :o)