I'm sorry to rub it in to those who didn't see it but Carol Klein's
presentation on digital viewing in the Grand Pavilion, was an utter delight.
She is just SUCH a good presenter and is on TV just as she is in real life.
In fact, I'd say they could make a whole programme for that alone and show it
to everyone!
Her own knowledge was of the greatest value, her way of presenting was
natural and refreshingly 'unstagey' and it's clear that her acquaintanceship
with so many of the exhibitors was, indeed, a bonus for us. Some of the
plants were mouthwatering and mostly, it was easy to identify them. I
thought the Drosera from http://www.hampshire-carnivorous-plants.co.uk/ would
be very interesting to those who have problems with whitefly in greenhouses.
But we enjoyed all the programmes and certainly - for us - the right garden
got Best in Show. ;-) Which would others have chosen?

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
email address on web site

On Wed, 24 May 2006 12:33:02 +0100, Sacha Hubbard <sacha [at] privacy.net>
wrote:

>I'm sorry to rub it in to those who didn't see it but Carol Klein's
>presentation on digital viewing in the Grand Pavilion, was an utter delight.

Most enjoyable - even for a novice. I've recorded both programmes so
far.

>She is just SUCH a good presenter and is on TV just as she is in real life.
>In fact, I'd say they could make a whole programme for that alone and show it
>to everyone!

Perhaps someone needs to say to the BBC that they could provide those
programmes either as a DVD or via the Gardeners World site on "see it
again" player where the programmes stay for a week or so. The other
alternative would be for them to show them as Hour Long Specials when GW
is not broadcast over the height of the Summer.

You seem to have the "hot line" to the production team so why not drop
them an E Mail? :-)

>Her own knowledge was of the greatest value, her way of presenting was
>natural and refreshingly 'unstagey' and it's clear that her acquaintanceship
>with so many of the exhibitors was, indeed, a bonus for us.

I agree that she seems to be in her element talking with the growers and
pointing out the plants.

>But we enjoyed all the programmes and certainly - for us - the right garden
>got Best in Show. ;-) Which would others have chosen?

I'll wait and see how they look "in the leaf" tomorrow provided I don't
get rained out. It looks like a dismal rainy and windy autumn day out
of the window at the moment :-(

--
Paul C

On Wed, 24 May 2006 13:27:23 +0100, Paul Corfield wrote
(in article <uqj8729sq7f3ufurcu3lit0n8jp8efa773 [at] 4ax.com>):

> On Wed, 24 May 2006 12:33:02 +0100, Sacha Hubbard <sacha [at] privacy.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm sorry to rub it in to those who didn't see it but Carol Klein's
>> presentation on digital viewing in the Grand Pavilion, was an utter
>> delight.
>
> Most enjoyable - even for a novice. I've recorded both programmes so
> far.
>
>> She is just SUCH a good presenter and is on TV just as she is in real life.
>> In fact, I'd say they could make a whole programme for that alone and show
>> it
>> to everyone!
>
> Perhaps someone needs to say to the BBC that they could provide those
> programmes either as a DVD or via the Gardeners World site on "see it
> again" player where the programmes stay for a week or so. The other
> alternative would be for them to show them as Hour Long Specials when GW
> is not broadcast over the height of the Summer.
>
> You seem to have the "hot line" to the production team so why not drop
> them an E Mail? :-)

I wish! However, if we all write in.................well - we know what can
happen.
>
>> Her own knowledge was of the greatest value, her way of presenting was
>> natural and refreshingly 'unstagey' and it's clear that her
>> acquaintanceship
>> with so many of the exhibitors was, indeed, a bonus for us.
>
> I agree that she seems to be in her element talking with the growers and
> pointing out the plants.
>
>> But we enjoyed all the programmes and certainly - for us - the right garden
>> got Best in Show. ;-) Which would others have chosen?
>
> I'll wait and see how they look "in the leaf" tomorrow provided I don't
> get rained out. It looks like a dismal rainy and windy autumn day out
> of the window at the moment :-(
>

As it is here - really dreary and leading to a great soh failure!


--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
email address on web site

the digital tour of some of the large show gardens was interesting to
hear what the designers were trying to achieve. really liked the look
of chris beardshaw's garden, and the colours in part of the telegraph
garden were wonderful too


--
Tiger303

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Sacha Hubbard <sacha [at] privacy.net> writes
>. I
>thought the Drosera from http://www.hampshire-carnivorous-plants.co.uk/ would
>be very interesting to those who have problems with whitefly in greenhouses.

I find Pinguicula (butterwort) are best for whitefly - I think the
colour of the pale leaves attracts them (rather like the yellow fly
papers do)
--
Kay

Sacha Hubbard <sacha [at] privacy.net> writes
>On Wed, 24 May 2006 13:27:23 +0100, Paul Corfield wrote
>(in article <uqj8729sq7f3ufurcu3lit0n8jp8efa773 [at] 4ax.com>):
>
>>
>> You seem to have the "hot line" to the production team so why not drop
>> them an E Mail? :-)
>
>I wish! However, if we all write in.................well - we know what can
>happen.
>>
Apparently there are companies set up to provide information from
internet discussion groups to businesses - a cheap form of market
research. Perhaps the beeb is using their services?
--
Kay

Sacha Hubbard Wrote:
> On Wed, 24 May 2006 13:27:23 +0100, Paul Corfield wrote
> (in article uqj8729sq7f3ufurcu3lit0n8jp8efa773 [at] 4ax.com):
>
> On Wed, 24 May 2006 12:33:02 +0100, Sacha Hubbard sacha [at] privacy.net
> wrote:
> [color=green]
> I'm sorry to rub it in to those who didn't see it but Carol Klein's
> presentation on digital viewing in the Grand Pavilion, was an utter
> delight.
>
> Most enjoyable - even for a novice. I've recorded both programmes so
> far.
>
> She is just SUCH a good presenter and is on TV just as she is in real
> life.
> In fact, I'd say they could make a whole programme for that alone and
> show
> it
> to everyone!
>
> Perhaps someone needs to say to the BBC that they could provide those
> programmes either as a DVD or via the Gardeners World site on "see it
> again" player where the programmes stay for a week or so. The other
> alternative would be for them to show them as Hour Long Specials when
> GW
> is not broadcast over the height of the Summer.
>
> --
> Sacha
> www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
> South Devon
> email address on web site

I have a number of contacts with BBC's Gardeners World. I'll pass this
suggestion on to them and let you know the reply!


--
Pest Effects

On Wed, 24 May 2006 22:31:15 +0100, Janet Baraclough wrote
(in article <31303030393032394474DEB331 [at] zetnet.co.uk>):

> The message <Tiger303.28bvjz [at] gardenbanter.co.uk>
> from Tiger303 <Tiger303.28bvjz [at] gardenbanter.co.uk> contains these words:
>
>
>> the digital tour of some of the large show gardens was interesting to
>> hear what the designers were trying to achieve. really liked the look
>> of chris beardshaw's garden, and the colours in part of the telegraph
>> garden were wonderful too
>
> It was the bronzy-gold irises I fell for :-)
>
> Janet

Me, too! They were edible! Were those Kelway? Cayeux has produced some
gorgeous ones, too.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
email address on web site

On Wed, 24 May 2006 23:01:51 +0100, K wrote
(in article <sTCckTIPfNdEFw28 [at] scarboro.demon.co.uk>):

> Sacha Hubbard <sacha [at] privacy.net> writes
>> On Wed, 24 May 2006 13:27:23 +0100, Paul Corfield wrote
>> (in article <uqj8729sq7f3ufurcu3lit0n8jp8efa773 [at] 4ax.com>):
>>
>>>
>>> You seem to have the "hot line" to the production team so why not drop
>>> them an E Mail? :-)
>>
>> I wish! However, if we all write in.................well - we know what can
>> happen.
>>>
> Apparently there are companies set up to provide information from
> internet discussion groups to businesses - a cheap form of market
> research. Perhaps the beeb is using their services?
>

Could be, though apparently the new approach to Chelsea is a result of direct
viewer 'intervention'!

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
email address on web site

On Wed, 24 May 2006 22:59:20 +0100, K wrote
(in article <Tg$j4gH4cNdEFwTo [at] scarboro.demon.co.uk>):

> Sacha Hubbard <sacha [at] privacy.net> writes
>> . I
>> thought the Drosera from http://www.hampshire-carnivorous-plants.co.uk/
>> would
>> be very interesting to those who have problems with whitefly in greenhouses.
>
> I find Pinguicula (butterwort) are best for whitefly - I think the
> colour of the pale leaves attracts them (rather like the yellow fly
> papers do)
>

Very interesting. I'll look that up, Kay. Do you use them yourself?

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
email address on web site

"K" <k [at] scarboro.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Tg$j4gH4cNdEFwTo [at] scarboro.demon.co.uk...
> Sacha Hubbard <sacha [at] privacy.net> writes
>>. I
>>thought the Drosera from http://www.hampshire-carnivorous-plants.co.uk/
>>would
>>be very interesting to those who have problems with whitefly in
>>greenhouses.
>
> I find Pinguicula (butterwort) are best for whitefly - I think the colour
> of the pale leaves attracts them (rather like the yellow fly papers do)
> --
Agreed Sacha, Carol was great again last night, liked the 'air plants' the
Italian/Belgian grower was brill. Is there an on-line site anywhere for air
plants?

K, ref the above Hampshire pic, do you know what the low growing, white
flowering plant, bottom of pic, left of centre. TIA

Bertie

Bertie Doe wrote:
> K, ref the above Hampshire pic, do you know what the low growing, white
> flowering plant, bottom of pic, left of centre. TIA

I think those are Utricularia blanchettii.

Bertie Doe <montebrasite4 [at] ntl.com> writes
>
>"K" <k [at] scarboro.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:Tg$j4gH4cNdEFwTo [at] scarboro.demon.co.uk...
>> Sacha Hubbard <sacha [at] privacy.net> writes
>>>. I
>>>thought the Drosera from http://www.hampshire-carnivorous-plants.co.uk/
>>>would
>>>be very interesting to those who have problems with whitefly in
>>>greenhouses.
>>
>> I find Pinguicula (butterwort) are best for whitefly - I think the colour
>> of the pale leaves attracts them (rather like the yellow fly papers do)
>> --
>Agreed Sacha, Carol was great again last night, liked the 'air plants' the
>Italian/Belgian grower was brill. Is there an on-line site anywhere for air
>plants?
>
>K, ref the above Hampshire pic, do you know what the low growing, white
>flowering plant, bottom of pic, left of centre. TIA
>
No, not a clue! Most of those are Sarracenia, so presumably another
species. Aren't they pitchers rather than flowers?
--
Kay

Sacha Hubbard <sacha [at] privacy.net> writes
>On Wed, 24 May 2006 22:59:20 +0100, K wrote
>(in article <Tg$j4gH4cNdEFwTo [at] scarboro.demon.co.uk>):
>
>> Sacha Hubbard <sacha [at] privacy.net> writes
>>> . I
>>> thought the Drosera from http://www.hampshire-carnivorous-plants.co.uk/
>>> would
>>> be very interesting to those who have problems with whitefly in greenhouses.
>>
>> I find Pinguicula (butterwort) are best for whitefly - I think the
>> colour of the pale leaves attracts them (rather like the yellow fly
>> papers do)
>>
>
>Very interesting. I'll look that up, Kay. Do you use them yourself?
>
I grow them, but more because their bright pink flowers brighten the
greenhouse through the winter. I wouldn't say they are a complete cure
(largely because I also have Nicotiana sylvestris in there for the scent
and that attracts them without eating them), but the butterwort leaves
are always plastered in dead whitefly.
--
Kay

On Thu, 25 May 2006 17:13:22 +0100, K wrote
(in article <PT5UUZKieddEFwTZ [at] scarboro.demon.co.uk>):

> Sacha Hubbard <sacha [at] privacy.net> writes
>> On Wed, 24 May 2006 22:59:20 +0100, K wrote
>> (in article <Tg$j4gH4cNdEFwTo [at] scarboro.demon.co.uk>):
>>
<snip>
>>>
>>> I find Pinguicula (butterwort) are best for whitefly - I think the
>>> colour of the pale leaves attracts them (rather like the yellow fly
>>> papers do)
>>>
>>
>> Very interesting. I'll look that up, Kay. Do you use them yourself?
>>
> I grow them, but more because their bright pink flowers brighten the
> greenhouse through the winter. I wouldn't say they are a complete cure
> (largely because I also have Nicotiana sylvestris in there for the scent
> and that attracts them without eating them), but the butterwort leaves
> are always plastered in dead whitefly.
>

Thanks. I'm tempted to get some of both and give them a try just out of
interest.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
email address on web site

On Thu, 25 May 2006 17:12:10 +0100, K wrote
(in article <jT3f0mIadddEFw2o [at] scarboro.demon.co.uk>):

> Bertie Doe <montebrasite4 [at] ntl.com> writes
>>
>> "K" <k [at] scarboro.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:Tg$j4gH4cNdEFwTo [at] scarboro.demon.co.uk...
>>> Sacha Hubbard <sacha [at] privacy.net> writes
>>>> . I
>>>> thought the Drosera from http://www.hampshire-carnivorous-plants.co.uk/
>>>> would
>>>> be very interesting to those who have problems with whitefly in
>>>> greenhouses.
>>>
>>> I find Pinguicula (butterwort) are best for whitefly - I think the colour
>>> of the pale leaves attracts them (rather like the yellow fly papers do)
>>> --
>> Agreed Sacha, Carol was great again last night, liked the 'air plants' the
>> Italian/Belgian grower was brill. Is there an on-line site anywhere for air
>> plants?
>>
>> K, ref the above Hampshire pic, do you know what the low growing, white
>> flowering plant, bottom of pic, left of centre. TIA
>>
> No, not a clue! Most of those are Sarracenia, so presumably another
> species. Aren't they pitchers rather than flowers?
>

Here's a link to their site: http://www.hantsflytrap.com/content/index.php
and this one has a few air plants:
http://www.livefoods.co.uk/default.php?cPath=41

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
email address on web site

Thanks LP, K and Sacha, must tape Carol this eve and build a collection.

BD

On Wed, 24 May 2006 22:30:14 +0100, Janet Baraclough
<janet.and.john [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

>The message <uqj8729sq7f3ufurcu3lit0n8jp8efa773 [at] 4ax.com>
>from Paul Corfield <aooy65 [at] dsl.pipex.com> contains these words:
>
>> Perhaps someone needs to say to the BBC that they could provide those
>> programmes either as a DVD or via the Gardeners World site on "see it
>> again" player where the programmes stay for a week or so. The other
>> alternative would be for them to show them as Hour Long Specials when GW
>> is not broadcast over the height of the Summer.
>
> I agree. The "red button" digital extra coverage is just superb,
>exactly what I want to see about Chelsea, quite different from and
>better than the main programmes IMHO. I hope they do make the digital
>coverage available for everyone to watch.

I went to Chelsea today for the first time - boy do my legs ache.

Interestingly the RHS had a Chelsea 2006 DVD and Video on sale and Carol
Klein presents it. I didn't buy it as I took a large number of
photographs instead.

The highlights were

Chris Beardshaw's Garden and Andy Sturgeon's garden. Both delightfully
planted. I was less taken with the others to be honest. The small
courtyard gardens were also rather good.

Nearly bashed Charlie Dimmock with my backpack (!) and held back while
the royal procession of Joe Swift walked in front of me while queuing in
the "slow queue" for some of the show gardens.

The real highlight though is the Pavilion and some of the stands were
really fabulous. I have over 3 pages of plant names jotted down as
options for filling in the space in my garden - I'm so pleased I took a
notebook. Amazing displays of bulbs, herbaceous plants, violas and
pansies and clematis - the latter two stands were completely packed out.
The inventive matching of plants was like a tutorial for me - and I do
appreciate that you don't get them all flowering together in nature as
they do at Chelsea.

I was surprised at just how many languages I heard being spoken - people
clearly come from all over the world to visit. Not something I had
particularly thought about before but it makes sense given the status
and reputation of the show.

Overall most enjoyable and certainly very informative for a novice.

--
Paul C

"Bertie Doe" <montebrasite4 [at] ntl.com> writes:

> Is there an on-line site anywhere for air
> plants?

The exhibit had http://www.airplant.be/ on its signage.

Anthony

Paul Corfield wrote:
> Overall most enjoyable and certainly very informative for a novice.

Great report!

I used to go every year - until the crowds just got too great. I tried beig
tther when the gates opened. I tried evning ticktest. But eh place was still
wall to wall people ALL the time.

I might brave it again next year!

pk

wrote in message
> "Bertie Doe" writes:
>
>> Is there an on-line site anywhere for air
>> plants?
>
> The exhibit had http://www.airplant.be/ on its signage.
>
Thanks Anthony, phew, 50 of them! I'll get a book before I order.

Bertie

On Thu, 25 May 2006 21:12:01 +0100, "p.k." <pgkaddy-groups [at] yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Paul Corfield wrote:
>> Overall most enjoyable and certainly very informative for a novice.
>
>Great report!
>
>I used to go every year - until the crowds just got too great. I tried beig
>tther when the gates opened. I tried evning ticktest. But eh place was still
>wall to wall people ALL the time.
>
>I might brave it again next year!

I got there about 08.30 and was genuinely surprised to be able to get
round most of the show gardens with little crowding. It did get somewhat
silly later on as people ignored the one way system in the Pavilion.
It's also a good idea to hide when the BBC are filming or in live
broadcast - the place just stops.

I was anticipating it being far worse than it was so my stress levels
remained low.
--
Paul C

On Fri, 26 May 2006 00:30:16 +0100, Paul Corfield wrote
(in article <cafc72t4961cbacqkudt41foufpvhkjc96 [at] 4ax.com>):
<snip>
>
> I got there about 08.30 and was genuinely surprised to be able to get
> round most of the show gardens with little crowding. It did get somewhat
> silly later on as people ignored the one way system in the Pavilion.
> It's also a good idea to hide when the BBC are filming or in live
> broadcast - the place just stops.
>
> I was anticipating it being far worse than it was so my stress levels
> remained low.
>

Interesting you mention the time you arrived. One of the articles I read on
Chelsea advised people to go on public days, not members' days and to arrive
extremely early. We went on the first day last time we went and arrived as
the gates opened - the crowds were so awful that I said I really never want
to go again. Maybe if we do, we'll follow your example.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
email address on web site

On Fri, 26 May 2006 08:59:06 +0100, Sacha Hubbard <sacha [at] privacy.net>
wrote:

>On Fri, 26 May 2006 00:30:16 +0100, Paul Corfield wrote
>(in article <cafc72t4961cbacqkudt41foufpvhkjc96 [at] 4ax.com>):
><snip>
>>
>> I got there about 08.30 and was genuinely surprised to be able to get
>> round most of the show gardens with little crowding. It did get somewhat
>> silly later on as people ignored the one way system in the Pavilion.
>> It's also a good idea to hide when the BBC are filming or in live
>> broadcast - the place just stops.
>>
>> I was anticipating it being far worse than it was so my stress levels
>> remained low.
>>
>
>Interesting you mention the time you arrived. One of the articles I read on
>Chelsea advised people to go on public days, not members' days and to arrive
>extremely early. We went on the first day last time we went and arrived as
>the gates opened - the crowds were so awful that I said I really never want
>to go again. Maybe if we do, we'll follow your example.

I suspect the weather may have had something to do with it. It was
overcast when I left home at 07.30. At Chelsea there were spots of rain
when I was looking at the first exhibits. It was lovely and sunny later.
I suspect that if it had been sunny early morning that the crowds may
have arrived in a different time distribution - i.e. more early on.
--
Paul C

"Sacha Hubbard" wrote in message
> I'm sorry to rub it in to those who didn't see it but Carol Klein's
> presentation on digital viewing in the Grand Pavilion, was an utter
> delight.
<snip>
> Some of the plants were mouthwatering and mostly, it was easy to identify
> them. I
> thought the Drosera from http://www.hampshire-carnivorous-plants.co.uk/
> would
> be very interesting to those who have problems with whitefly in
> greenhouses.

Slightly OT, but the Hampshires webshop's growing conditions refer to 'a
cool greenhouse or a warm one'. Apart from the obvious, can anyone elaborate
on the difference between cool and warm?

Bertie

"Bertie Doe" <montebrasite4 [at] ntl.com> wrote in message
news:4do7hfF1aitjnU1 [at] individual.net...
>
> "Sacha Hubbard" wrote in message
> > I'm sorry to rub it in to those who didn't see it but Carol Klein's
> > presentation on digital viewing in the Grand Pavilion, was an utter
> > delight.
> <snip>
> > Some of the plants were mouthwatering and mostly, it was easy to
identify
> > them. I
> > thought the Drosera from http://www.hampshire-carnivorous-plants.co.uk/
> > would
> > be very interesting to those who have problems with whitefly in
> > greenhouses.
>
> Slightly OT, but the Hampshires webshop's growing conditions refer to 'a
> cool greenhouse or a warm one'. Apart from the obvious, can anyone
elaborate
> on the difference between cool and warm?
>
> Bertie
>
Cold or cool greenhouse = unheated, likely to be cold (possibly below zero
in winter)
Warm greenhouse = one in which the temperature is prevented from falling
below freezing, allows for a greater range of plants to be kept.
Hot house = a greenhouse where the minimum temperature is maintained high
enough to keep tropical plants and bankrupt the owner.

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)

"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message>
> "Bertie Doe" < wrote in message
>>
>> "Sacha Hubbard" wrote in message
>> > I'm sorry to rub it in to those who didn't see it but Carol Klein's
>> > presentation on digital viewing in the Grand Pavilion, was an utter
>> > delight.
>> <snip>
>> > Some of the plants were mouthwatering and mostly, it was easy to
> identify
>> > them. I
>> > thought the Drosera from http://www.hampshire-carnivorous-plants.co.uk/
>> > would
>> > be very interesting to those who have problems with whitefly in
>> > greenhouses.
>>
>> Slightly OT, but the Hampshires webshop's growing conditions refer to 'a
>> cool greenhouse or a warm one'. Apart from the obvious, can anyone
> elaborate
>> on the difference between cool and warm?
>>
>> Bertie
>>
> Cold or cool greenhouse = unheated, likely to be cold (possibly below zero
> in winter)
> Warm greenhouse = one in which the temperature is prevented from falling
> below freezing, allows for a greater range of plants to be kept.
> Hot house = a greenhouse where the minimum temperature is maintained high
> enough to keep tropical plants and bankrupt the owner.
>
Thanks Charlie
Keeping the greenhouse warm in Winter is going to prove too expensive. I
shall google around for a heater say, 100watts (I'm guessing) and build a
coldframe.

Bertie