Why does this newsgroup, dealing with the peaceful pastime of 'gardening',
break out into agressive arguements every so often with those 'who know'
stating in no uncertain terms to those 'who don't know', that they are right
and everybody else is wrong?

I see it has happened again with the 'owners' taking sides against everybody
else, even down to a response which will be 'it's not everybody else, it's
just those who are wrong' :-(((((

Michael Crowe

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www.rnshipmates.co.uk
International Festival of the Sea 28th June - 1st July 2007

Who will it be to correct me ;-) ????

Michael Crowe


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In message <VYidneiErpBd5hvZRVny3g [at] bt.com>, Michael Crowe
<not [at] here.thanks> writes
>Who will it be to correct me ;-) ????
>
>Michael Crowe
Nothing to correct. This is Usenet. Anyone can post here and say what
they like. Except - when a subject if off-topic it is polite to state
that fact in the header.

--
June Hughes

In message <jm0d82100dtd18vd5ffor9quqgugg30ijd [at] 4ax.com>, The Invalid
<the_invalid [at] hotmail.co.uk> writes
>On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 08:14:17 +0100, "Michael Crowe" <not [at] here.thanks>
>wrote:
>
>>Who will it be to correct me ;-) ????
>>
>>Michael Crowe
>
>Not me, I agree with you.
>
>As with everything there are many ways to do any single job, same with
>gardening. When we moved to our present house we were told in no
>uncertain terms by our neighbour that we would never be able to grow
>blueberries because of the soil.
>We still get a fine crop every year.
>
The moral of that story is 'never take advice from your neighbours':)
--
June Hughes

Michael Crowe Wrote:
> "Why does this newsgroup, dealing with the peaceful pastime of
> 'gardening',
> break out into agressive arguements........" Michael Crowe
>
> --
> ------------------------------------------------
> Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
> www.rnshipmates.co.uk
> International Festival of the Sea 28th June - 1st July 2007

I have only been using this site for 2 weeks and have mostly just
lurked, gleaning some great snippets of information ( thank you all ),
but I have to agree with you. I'm amazed at the sniping and backbiting
in some posts. Its a shame as its a very useful group to belong to but
to tell the truth I feel a bit uncomfortable reading some threads.
Maybe I'm just pretty laid back and non aggressive.


--
trin

"trin" <trin.291c82 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote in message
news:trin.291c82 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk...
>
> Michael Crowe Wrote:
>> "Why does this newsgroup, dealing with the peaceful pastime of
>> 'gardening',
>> break out into agressive arguements........" Michael Crowe
>>
>> --
>> ------------------------------------------------
>> Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
>> www.rnshipmates.co.uk
>> International Festival of the Sea 28th June - 1st July 2007
>
> I have only been using this site for 2 weeks and have mostly just
> lurked, gleaning some great snippets of information ( thank you all ),
> but I have to agree with you. I'm amazed at the sniping and backbiting
> in some posts. Its a shame as its a very useful group to belong to but
> to tell the truth I feel a bit uncomfortable reading some threads.
> Maybe I'm just pretty laid back and non aggressive.

What exactly do you mean by aggressive?? Who the hell asked you??
Any aggression round here is purely imaginary and if you disagree, I will
come over and sort you out.

Des


>
>
> --
> trin

trin wrote:
> I have only been using this site for 2 weeks and have mostly just
> lurked, gleaning some great snippets of information ( thank you all ),
> but I have to agree with you. I'm amazed at the sniping and backbiting
> in some posts. Its a shame as its a very useful group to belong to but
> to tell the truth I feel a bit uncomfortable reading some threads.
> Maybe I'm just pretty laid back and non aggressive.

Therefore you should stay around and contribute. We can do with people
like you :o)

Where does your garden grow?

trin <trin.291c82 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk> writes
>
>
>I have only been using this site for 2 weeks and have mostly just
>lurked, gleaning some great snippets of information ( thank you all ),
>but I have to agree with you. I'm amazed at the sniping and backbiting
>in some posts. Its a shame as its a very useful group to belong to but
>to tell the truth I feel a bit uncomfortable reading some threads.
>Maybe I'm just pretty laid back and non aggressive.


When you've been here a bit longer, you may also discern patterns of
posting which have eluded you at present. Or you may not.

--
Kay

On 7/6/06 09:48, in article trin.291c82 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk, "trin"
<trin.291c82 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote:
<snip>
> I'm amazed at the sniping and backbiting
> in some posts. Its a shame as its a very useful group to belong to but
> to tell the truth I feel a bit uncomfortable reading some threads.
> Maybe I'm just pretty laid back and non aggressive.
>
Actually, you're not using this site. You're using Garden Banter which
pinches the posts to this site and uses them for their own purposes.
As to being 'aggressive', I have to wonder if those who think people here
'aggressive' have actually met with real trouble in their entire lives!
Objecting to people cutting down trees unnecessarily is hardly 'aggressive'!
And objecting to being told you talk 'shit' by someone being unnecessarily
rude and insulting isn't 'aggressive', either.
In fact, there are plenty here who would say that answering persistent
trolls is aggressive as far as the general tenor of the group is concerned
and is, in itself, trolling. You say you've been here two weeks and yet you
choose to answer the most unpopular pest this group has ever, mainly,
ignored. Talk about nailing your colours to the mast.......

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(email address on website)

"Sacha" <sacha [at] privacy.net> wrote in message
news:C0ACC1CE.31268%sacha [at] privacy.net...
> On 7/6/06 09:48, in article trin.291c82 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk, "trin"
> <trin.291c82 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote:
> <snip>
> > I'm amazed at the sniping and backbiting
> > in some posts. Its a shame as its a very useful group to belong to but
> > to tell the truth I feel a bit uncomfortable reading some threads.
> > Maybe I'm just pretty laid back and non aggressive.
> >
> Actually, you're not using this site. You're using Garden Banter ......
:-((

........ :-((


and that is why you are put where you are by one of the 'owners' of the site
:-((

Garden Banter is not approved and thus causes some of the aggression
mentioned. It pouts the 'experts' backs up straight away and you are
dooooooooooooomend from your very first posting :-((

But you see what I mean don't you?????????????????? :-)))))

Michael Crowe


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Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rnshipmates.co.uk
International Festival of the Sea 28th June - 1st July 2007

La Puce Wrote:
>
> Where does your garden grow?
In SouthGloucestershire, is that really a county? We used to be Avon.
Although I have gardened in a very amateruish manner for 18 yrs or so,
we have just aquired a plot ajoining our land of about 1/5 of an acre,
which effectivly more than doubles our garden. Its very exciting as its
like starting from new again, but there are lots of challenges ahead.
I'm hoping you folks won't mind lots of questions.


--
trin

Sacha Wrote:
> On 7/6/06 09:48, in article trin.291c82 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk, "trin"
> trin.291c82 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk wrote:
> snip
> I'm amazed at the sniping and backbiting
> in some posts. Its a shame as its a very useful group to belong to
> but
> to tell the truth I feel a bit uncomfortable reading some threads.
> Maybe I'm just pretty laid back and non aggressive.
>
> Actually, you're not using this site. You're using Garden Banter
> which
> pinches the posts to this site and uses them for their own purposes.
> As to being 'aggressive', I have to wonder if those who think people
> here
> 'aggressive' have actually met with real trouble in their entire
> lives!
> Objecting to people cutting down trees unnecessarily is hardly
> 'aggressive'!
> And objecting to being told you talk 'shit' by someone being
> unnecessarily
> rude and insulting isn't 'aggressive', either.
> In fact, there are plenty here who would say that answering persistent
> trolls is aggressive as far as the general tenor of the group is
> concerned
> and is, in itself, trolling. You say you've been here two weeks and
> yet you
> choose to answer the most unpopular pest this group has ever, mainly,
> ignored. Talk about nailing your colours to the mast.......
>
> --
> Sacha
> www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
> South Devon
> (email address on website)
I have only been here two weeks, I have no idea what you mean about not
being here, being at Garden Banter.Am I posting on the wrong site?
because its not clear in the instructions. I'm rather confused. I have
made no judgments about anyone and I dont want to take sides. And in
two weeks I dont know how I am supposed to know who is a troll and who
is not. I have found some posts aggressive and if you told me I talked
"shit" I have to say I would find that aggressive.


--
trin

trin wrote:
> In SouthGloucestershire, is that really a county? We used to be Avon.
> Although I have gardened in a very amateruish manner for 18 yrs or so,
> we have just aquired a plot ajoining our land of about 1/5 of an acre,
> which effectivly more than doubles our garden. Its very exciting as its
> like starting from new again, but there are lots of challenges ahead.
> I'm hoping you folks won't mind lots of questions.

Exciting indeed! Can't wait to hear more in another new positive thread
;o)

trin <trin.2929k0 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk> writes
>
>La Puce Wrote:
>>
>> Where does your garden grow?
>In SouthGloucestershire, is that really a county? We used to be Avon.

Is Avon really a county? I remember it as Gloucestershire (or did it
include a bit of Somerset?) ;-)

>Although I have gardened in a very amateruish manner for 18 yrs or so,
>we have just aquired a plot ajoining our land of about 1/5 of an acre,
>which effectivly more than doubles our garden. Its very exciting as its
>like starting from new again, but there are lots of challenges ahead.
>I'm hoping you folks won't mind lots of questions.


Not at all, you're very welcome. It's also worth looking at the FAQs and
searching the archives, as there's been a wealth of good advice here
over the years

--
Kay

trin <trin.2929k1 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk> writes

>I have only been here two weeks, I have no idea what you mean about not
>being here, being at Garden Banter.Am I posting on the wrong site?

What you are posting to is a newsgroup, part of 'usenet'. Gardenbanter,
as it says in the small print somewhere, is merely a 'portal' to
number of usenet newsgroups. Most of the more knowledgeable gardeners
here post and read using newsreading software. Some of us feel less than
friendly towards Gardenbanter because it is using our posts without our
consent for what seems to be a commercial operation making money through
its advertising and marketing area.

>because its not clear in the instructions. I'm rather confused. I have
>made no judgments about anyone and I dont want to take sides. And in
>two weeks I dont know how I am supposed to know who is a troll and who
>is not.

No, indeed! It's often a good idea to wait and observe before making
judgements. If you stick around, you'll get to 'know' the regular
posters, and decide which ones share your values and which don't.

> I have found some posts aggressive and if you told me I talked
>"shit" I have to say I would find that aggressive.


I guess you haven't come across usenet? We are an unmoderated newsgroup,
which means that nobody has been appointed to have sole responsibility
for what appears here. Instead, we have a charter which specifies what
is acceptable, and each and every one of us has a responsibility to
stick to that and to advise other people when they go over the bounds of
what is acceptable. Some people use the unmoderated nature to post
things that are not acceptable, but there is no way of deleting posts.

I have to say, though, that within the context of usenet groups, this is
a fairly polite one - we don't generally comment on the ancestry or
sexual practices of fellow posters.






--
Kay

Michael Crowe wrote:
> Why does this newsgroup, dealing with the peaceful pastime of 'gardening',
> break out into agressive arguements every so often with those 'who know'
> stating in no uncertain terms to those 'who don't know', that they are right
> and everybody else is wrong?
>
> I see it has happened again with the 'owners' taking sides against everybody
> else, even down to a response which will be 'it's not everybody else, it's
> just those who are wrong' :-(((((
>

Anyone who thinks URG is an aggressive newsgroup hasn't spent much time
trawling usenet...

But seriously - URG is a great newsgroup, with lots of very
knowledgeable people, many of whom even have a sense of humour, who are
always prepared to answer daft newbie questions such as those I
regularly post.

That said, those people are human, and we each of us have our own
sensitivities.
Plus it's always much, much easier to tell someone what you really
think well hidden behind your keyboard than when face to face with
them. So, at times, people snipe and (gently) row.

My advice - whatever it is worth - is, ignore that, and see the
intrinsic value of the group for what it really is.

Cat(h)

"Cat(h)" <cathy_ie [at] yahoo.com> writes
>
>Anyone who thinks URG is an aggressive newsgroup hasn't spent much time
>trawling usenet...
>
>But seriously - URG is a great newsgroup, with lots of very
>knowledgeable people, many of whom even have a sense of humour, who are
>always prepared to answer daft newbie questions such as those I
>regularly post.
>
>That said, those people are human, and we each of us have our own
>sensitivities.
>Plus it's always much, much easier to tell someone what you really
>think well hidden behind your keyboard than when face to face with
>them. So, at times, people snipe and (gently) row.
>
>My advice - whatever it is worth - is, ignore that, and see the
>intrinsic value of the group for what it really is.
>
Thank you - a really sensible post!

--
Kay

Avon was disbanded a few years back, we are now Bristol city and county
again :)

I'm on the border of Bristol and South Glos (well, just in the Bristol
bit).

Keep us posted on your new enlarged garden, will be interesting to see
how it progresses.


--
penance

K Wrote:
> .....
>
> --
> Kay
Thank you K for your 2 posts. I won't quote them all here.
I dont think Avon is really a county either. Its safe to say I live
near Bristol.
Thanks for the tip about the searches. I have already had several
questions answered through them.

As to your second post. No I had never even heard of usenet until I
tried reading about it yesterday. I thought this was just a forum on
Garden Banter. I have not explored the Garden Banter site at all apart
from trying to read "Lost in usenet" which did as it promised and lost
me completely.

Still have to admit that I can't quite understand how you function and
why you can't break with Garden Banter if you want to. But technology
never was my strong point.

I realised that this was an unmoderated site, but perhaps was not
prepared for how strangers can treat each other. If you are all happy
for me to post here I will continue to do so, but I have no wish to be
anywhere I'm not wanted. Please tell me that Des who posted above was
joking.


--
trin

penance Wrote:
> Avon was disbanded a few years back, we are now Bristol city and county
> again :)
>
> I'm on the border of Bristol and South Glos (well, just in the Bristol
> bit).
>
> Keep us posted on your new enlarged garden, will be interesting to see
> how it progresses.
Sounds like we might be near neighbours. I'm just on the South
Gloucestershire side. Its useful to find others who will have similar
weather although I know that individual gardens in the same area can
vary tremendously depending on how exposed they are.


--
trin

penance Wrote:
> You may be right, we are near the BAWA fields.
>
>
And we are near Hambrooke. Our garden is a strange mix. Our house is
modern (20 yrs) built in the middle of a fairly steeply sloping plot.
Because of the large amt of landscaping that had to be done for the
build, top soil was imported. Horrible clumps of grey clay. A tragedy
really as the local soil is meant to be excellent.
And our newly aquired plot ajoining which has the original soil. I'm no
expert but I'd have said sandy loam. It was used in Victorian times as a
market garden and still has the remains of a summerhouse we wish to
restore. The area used to produce a huge crop of apricots appearantly,
which is something I'm looking forward to trying to grow. More of that
later, right now hours of removing ivy, brambles and nettles.


--
trin

trin Wrote:
> Sounds like we might be near neighbours. I'm just on the South
> Gloucestershire side. Its useful to find others who will have similar
> weather although I know that individual gardens in the same area can
> vary tremendously depending on how exposed they are.


You may be right, we are near the BAWA fields.

Our garden is quite shaded from the north side by an old boundary
hedge, it takes a fair amount og light from the plot nearest it. I am
loathed to cut the hedge tho as it mostly native trees.

I got fed up with the heavy clay we have here and put in 6 2.5 x 1
meter raised beds for veg growing.
Already looking like a higher yeild this year. I'm hoping it will
continue to look that way....


--
penance

trin <trin.293njz [at] gardenbanter.co.uk> writes
>
>Still have to admit that I can't quite understand how you function and
>why you can't break with Garden Banter if you want to. But technology
>never was my strong point.

We can't break with gardenbanter because basically we post on usenet
which is public domain, so there is no physical way of stopping
gardenbanter using our posts.
>
>I realised that this was an unmoderated site, but perhaps was not
>prepared for how strangers can treat each other. If you are all happy
>for me to post here I will continue to do so, but I have no wish to be
>anywhere I'm not wanted.

Asking for us *all* to be happy is a tall order! - Can you accept just
most of us? ;-)

--
Kay

The message <hnUfJ+Oo5IiEFwcu [at] scarboro.demon.co.uk>
from K <k [at] scarboro.demon.co.uk> contains these words:


> We can't break with gardenbanter because basically we post on usenet
> which is public domain, so there is no physical way of stopping
> gardenbanter using our posts.

Yes there is. I've just decloaked to allow Trin to see my posts on
this topic, but otherwise, gardenbanter honours my software option of
automated "x-no-archive-yes) and does not show the originals of my
posts.

If sufficient usenet posters did the same, within weeks
gardenbanter's portal of urg would be an empty desert.

Janet.

--
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5 UKP three-day adult ticket (funds go to island charities) buys entry
to 26 private gardens

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Janet Baraclough wrote:
> The message <hnUfJ+Oo5IiEFwcu [at] scarboro.demon.co.uk>
> from K <k [at] scarboro.demon.co.uk> contains these words:
>
>
>> We can't break with gardenbanter because basically we post on usenet
>> which is public domain, so there is no physical way of stopping
>> gardenbanter using our posts.
>
> Yes there is. I've just decloaked to allow Trin to see my posts on
> this topic, but otherwise, gardenbanter honours my software option of
> automated "x-no-archive-yes) and does not show the originals of my
> posts.
>
> If sufficient usenet posters did the same, within weeks
> gardenbanter's portal of urg would be an empty desert.
>


Can i do that with outlook express?

<duck>

pk

"p.k." <pgkaddy-groups [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1uKdnZQx_rAfKhXZnZ2dnUVZ8smdnZ2d [at] bt.com...
> Janet Baraclough wrote:
>> The message <hnUfJ+Oo5IiEFwcu [at] scarboro.demon.co.uk>
>> from K <k [at] scarboro.demon.co.uk> contains these words:
>>
>>
>>> We can't break with gardenbanter because basically we post on usenet
>>> which is public domain, so there is no physical way of stopping
>>> gardenbanter using our posts.
>>
>> Yes there is. I've just decloaked to allow Trin to see my posts on
>> this topic, but otherwise, gardenbanter honours my software option of
>> automated "x-no-archive-yes) and does not show the originals of my
>> posts.
>>
>> If sufficient usenet posters did the same, within weeks
>> gardenbanter's portal of urg would be an empty desert.
>>
>
>
> Can i do that with outlook express?
>
> <duck>
>
> pk
>
Yes but with difficulty-have a look at this
http://www.helpwithwindows.com/windows95/oe-24.html

"Anne Jackson" <amygdala [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:31303030343236304488BD9647 [at] zetnet.co.uk...
> "Michael Crowe" <not [at] here.thanks> said:
> > Who will it be to correct me ;-) ????
>
> > Michael Crowe
>
>
> Me! It's aggression....
>
> --
> AnneJ

Well done AnneJ I noticed it as soon as it came up on screen and was
expecting someone sooner than that!! 10 Brownie Points ;-))

Michael Crowe FEP


--
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Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rnshipmates.co.uk
International Festival of the Sea 28th June - 1st July 2007

Janet Baraclough <janet.and.john [at] zetnet.co.uk> writes
>The message <hnUfJ+Oo5IiEFwcu [at] scarboro.demon.co.uk>
>from K <k [at] scarboro.demon.co.uk> contains these words:
>
>
>> We can't break with gardenbanter because basically we post on usenet
>> which is public domain, so there is no physical way of stopping
>> gardenbanter using our posts.
>
> Yes there is. I've just decloaked to allow Trin to see my posts on
>this topic, but otherwise, gardenbanter honours my software option of
>automated "x-no-archive-yes) and does not show the originals of my
>posts.
>
> If sufficient usenet posters did the same, within weeks
>gardenbanter's portal of urg would be an empty desert.
>
I've never used it. Anyone know how to do it in Turnpike?

--
Kay

On 8/6/06 23:10, in article 31303030393032394488AE6A56 [at] zetnet.co.uk, "Janet
Baraclough" <janet.and.john [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

> The message <hnUfJ+Oo5IiEFwcu [at] scarboro.demon.co.uk>
> from K <k [at] scarboro.demon.co.uk> contains these words:
>
>
>> We can't break with gardenbanter because basically we post on usenet
>> which is public domain, so there is no physical way of stopping
>> gardenbanter using our posts.
>
> Yes there is. I've just decloaked to allow Trin to see my posts on
> this topic, but otherwise, gardenbanter honours my software option of
> automated "x-no-archive-yes) and does not show the originals of my
> posts.
>
> If sufficient usenet posters did the same, within weeks
> gardenbanter's portal of urg would be an empty desert.
>
If you can tell me how to do that on my Mac, I'd be glad to!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(email address on website)

In message <C0AEFF5C.3147E%sacha [at] privacy.net>, Sacha <sacha [at] privacy.net>
writes
>If you can tell me how to do that on my Mac, I'd be glad to!

the first result when searching Google for 'Microsoft-Entourage
killfile' is an article recommending switching to Mozilla Thunderbird :)
(is that available for the Mac?)

MacSoup certainly has 'an easy to use' Killfile facility according to
< http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:Ks7u6W4iPDUJ:www.macorcha rd.com/email
/+Microsoft+Entourage+killfile&hl=en&gl=uk&ct=cl nk&cd=4 > =
<http://tinyurl.com/rmowl>

This may help you with Entourage though...
< http://groups.google.co.uk/group/microsoft.public.mac.office .entourage/b
rowse_thread/thread/d050ae00ee5302f8/c15d9c8bfb7dd5d4?lnk=st &q=Microsoft+
Entourage+killfile&rnum=2#c15d9c8bfb7dd5d4> = http://tinyurl.com/mqc2x

hth :)

d

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The message <rTzOqYGxrUiEFAvZ [at] stejonda.org.uk>
from "dave or stella [at] stejonda" <usenet_davestella [at] stejonda.freeuk.com>
contains these words:

> In message <C0AEFF5C.3147E%sacha [at] privacy.net>, Sacha <sacha [at] privacy.net>
> writes
> >If you can tell me how to do that on my Mac, I'd be glad to!

> the first result when searching Google for 'Microsoft-Entourage
> killfile' is an article recommending switching to Mozilla Thunderbird :)
> (is that available for the Mac?)

> MacSoup certainly has 'an easy to use' Killfile facility (snip)

"X-no-archive-yes" is different from a killfile ,it controls the
destination of outgoing usenet posts not incoming ones. IIRC it became
available when google acquired dejanews (the original usenet archive)
before google expanded the archive to became a full usenet portal. Now
that google has become a usenet portal, they do show X-marked posts
but only for 7 days. gardenbanter doesn't show them at all.

I can acces the post-marking facility through the options toolbar
supplied by my newsreader and a click on a box sets it to appear
automatically in every post. But those who don't have an automated
facility, can just type in manually at the top of each post
"x-no-archive-yes" and it will work just as well.

Janet

--
Isle of Arran Open Gardens weekend 21,22,23 July 2006
5 UKP three-day adult ticket (funds go to island charities) buys entry
to 26 private gardens

Janet Baraclough wrote:
> The message <hnUfJ+Oo5IiEFwcu [at] scarboro.demon.co.uk>
> from K <k [at] scarboro.demon.co.uk> contains these words:
>
>
> > We can't break with gardenbanter because basically we post on usenet
> > which is public domain, so there is no physical way of stopping
> > gardenbanter using our posts.
>
> Yes there is. I've just decloaked to allow Trin to see my posts on
> this topic, but otherwise, gardenbanter honours my software option of
> automated "x-no-archive-yes) and does not show the originals of my
> posts.
>
> If sufficient usenet posters did the same, within weeks
> gardenbanter's portal of urg would be an empty desert.

Well maybe. It would certainly mean that people wouldn't be able to
search Google Groups for old threads. I suspect that if GardenBanter
found their portal of urg was an empty desert, they would adopt
Google's practise of displaying posts for a week - which would leave us
pretty much back where we started.

What we /really/ need is to persuade GardenBanter to honour a new
header
x-no-portal: gardenbanter.co.uk
(or similar).

"newsb" <news [at] benevolent.org.uk> wrote in message
news:bNXIq$GVmViEFwpH [at] benevolent.org.uk...
> In article <RuTD7PA1lSiEFw6T [at] scarboro.demon.co.uk>, K
> <k [at] scarboro.demon.co.uk> writes
> >Janet Baraclough <janet.and.john [at] zetnet.co.uk> writes
> >>The message <hnUfJ+Oo5IiEFwcu [at] scarboro.demon.co.uk>
> >>from K <k [at] scarboro.demon.co.uk> contains these words:
> >>
> >>
> >>> We can't break with gardenbanter because basically we post on usenet
> >>> which is public domain, so there is no physical way of stopping
> >>> gardenbanter using our posts.
> >>
> >> Yes there is. I've just decloaked to allow Trin to see my posts on
> >>this topic, but otherwise, gardenbanter honours my software option of
> >>automated "x-no-archive-yes) and does not show the originals of my
> >>posts.
> >>
> >> If sufficient usenet posters did the same, within weeks
> >>gardenbanter's portal of urg would be an empty desert.
> >>
> >I've never used it. Anyone know how to do it in Turnpike?
> >
>
> I'm not sure because I've never used it - but I think the easiest way is
> just to add
> x-no-archive: yes
> to the "Other" header box (which you can see by scrolling down to the
> bottom of the headers section when creating a post). If this post is no
> archive, then it works:)
>
> I'm not sure how you set it to automatically be there for every post.
>
> regards
> andyw
>
> --
> regards andyw

Just found these "other lines" in View (outlook express) is it the
Distribution line I need to put the x-no-archive: yes into?
I didn't personally object to posts being poached until I started getting
email queries about posts made so long ago I had forgotten making them, a
minor irritation but if it can be avoided easily why not!

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)

trin <trin.293njz [at] gardenbanter.co.uk> writes
>
>. Please tell me that Des who posted above was
>joking.


Yes he was :-)

--
Kay

The message <1149860010.805576.8430 [at] h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
from "Martin Bonner" <martinfrompi [at] yahoo.co.uk> contains these words:

> Well maybe. It would certainly mean that people wouldn't be able to
> search Google Groups for old threads.

Most garden related topics have been covered several times over, so
they'd find some gems from the past. Though I get the impression that
few newbies nowadays bother to use the usenet search facility anyway.

Janet..



--
Isle of Arran Open Gardens weekend 21,22,23 July 2006
5 UKP three-day adult ticket (funds go to island charities) buys entry
to 26 private gardens

In message <3130303039303239448979E977 [at] zetnet.co.uk>, Janet Baraclough
<janet.and.john [at] zetnet.co.uk> writes
>
>> MacSoup certainly has 'an easy to use' Killfile facility (snip)
>
> "X-no-archive-yes" is different from a killfile

oops - yes sorry - miscomprehended :(

d
--
dave or stella [at] stejonda

"Charlie Pridham" <charlie.pridham [at] lineone.net> wrote in message
news:44899b82$1_2 [at] mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com...
>
> "newsb" <news [at] benevolent.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:bNXIq$GVmViEFwpH [at] benevolent.org.uk...
>> In article <RuTD7PA1lSiEFw6T [at] scarboro.demon.co.uk>, K
>> <k [at] scarboro.demon.co.uk> writes
>> >Janet Baraclough <janet.and.john [at] zetnet.co.uk> writes
>> >>The message <hnUfJ+Oo5IiEFwcu [at] scarboro.demon.co.uk>
>> >>from K <k [at] scarboro.demon.co.uk> contains these words:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> We can't break with gardenbanter because basically we post on usenet
>> >>> which is public domain, so there is no physical way of stopping
>> >>> gardenbanter using our posts.
>> >>
>> >> Yes there is. I've just decloaked to allow Trin to see my posts on
>> >>this topic, but otherwise, gardenbanter honours my software option of
>> >>automated "x-no-archive-yes) and does not show the originals of my
>> >>posts.
>> >>
>> >> If sufficient usenet posters did the same, within weeks
>> >>gardenbanter's portal of urg would be an empty desert.
>> >>
>> >I've never used it. Anyone know how to do it in Turnpike?
>> >
>>
>> I'm not sure because I've never used it - but I think the easiest way is
>> just to add
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> to the "Other" header box (which you can see by scrolling down to the
>> bottom of the headers section when creating a post). If this post is no
>> archive, then it works:)
>>
>> I'm not sure how you set it to automatically be there for every post.
>>
>> regards
>> andyw
>>
>> --
>> regards andyw
>
> Just found these "other lines" in View (outlook express) is it the
> Distribution line I need to put the x-no-archive: yes into?
> I didn't personally object to posts being poached until I started getting
> email queries about posts made so long ago I had forgotten making them, a
> minor irritation but if it can be avoided easily why not!
>
> --
> Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
> http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
> Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)
>
>
Yes or in the keywords as detailed in the link
http://www.helpwithwindows.com/windows95/oe-24.html

I have never tried it so can't say if it works.