Before I ask any more gardening questions, I would just like someone to
clarify for me the relationship between Garden Banter and this
forum(I'm sure I'm not meant to use that word). I found the you through
Garden Banter and thought it was part of that site. Is it not? I notice
that below my name in a post it says registered user rather than
usernet poster.
I started posting here because it made sense to ask questions about
gardening in Britain to a British group. If this is a private site or
invitation only please accept my apologies.
I'm afraid I tried to read the link about usenet in garden banter. It
was called Lost in Usenet..... and I'm still lost


--
trin

"trin" <trin.2936w2 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote in message
news:trin.2936w2 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk...
>
> Before I ask any more gardening questions, I would just like someone to
> clarify for me the relationship between Garden Banter and this
> forum(I'm sure I'm not meant to use that word). I found the you through
> Garden Banter and thought it was part of that site. Is it not? I notice
> that below my name in a post it says registered user rather than
> usernet poster.
> I started posting here because it made sense to ask questions about
> gardening in Britain to a British group. If this is a private site or
> invitation only please accept my apologies.
> I'm afraid I tried to read the link about usenet in garden banter. It
> was called Lost in Usenet..... and I'm still lost
>
>
> --
> trin

In a nutshell, to the 'owners' ie those who have been here for a thousand
years, NO other gardening forum, newsgroup, gardening information media, is
as good as uk.rec.gardening, commonly known as 'urg' and the users therein
known as urglers!!

If you speak your mind, then you will be hounded down and known as a troll,
trouble maker, nasty piece of work etc etc etc, whatever the 'owners' decide
to use at the time.

HOWEVER, you have found one of the most informative sites on gardening, even
"I" have found it useful and I am not a gardener, my wife is :-))))

My hobbies are in my sig and that upsets them toooooooooo ;-((

Michael Crowe

(Oh by the way, to be 'someone' you must post your full name :-))

I am 'somebody' :-))

Now, to see what I mean about 'attacks', sit back and just see the petty
remarks which will now come in :-))


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www.rnshipmates.co.uk
International Festival of the Sea 28th June - 1st July 2007

On 8/6/06 09:35, in article trin.2936w2 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk, "trin"
<trin.2936w2 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote:

> Before I ask any more gardening questions, I would just like someone to
> clarify for me the relationship between Garden Banter and this
> forum(I'm sure I'm not meant to use that word). I found the you through
> Garden Banter and thought it was part of that site. Is it not? I notice
> that below my name in a post it says registered user rather than
> usernet poster.
> I started posting here because it made sense to ask questions about
> gardening in Britain to a British group. If this is a private site or
> invitation only please accept my apologies.
> I'm afraid I tried to read the link about usenet in garden banter. It
> was called Lost in Usenet..... and I'm still lost
>

Kay's explained it very well in a reply she made to an earlier post of yours
but basically, Garden Banter is a commercial group that lures people in by
'pinching' our posts here and putting them onto its site. GB does none of
the work, it merely plagiarises and quite a few of us object to that. Some
of the people here are professionals (I'm not, I'm married to one) and some
are keen amateurs and some are incredibly experienced and knowledgeable and
we feel it absolutely wrong that this expertise should be 'stolen' in this
way. That is nothing personal against GB posters, by the way, though one
non-gardening trouble making troll here would have you think it is.
I didn't see your other post because at times, my news reader doesn't
deliver them. I think that's the case with quite a few people, so
contributing direct to urg by using something like e.g. Outlook Express and
subscribing to the group through that, means your posts will be seen by
everyone and you will get more answers to any questions you have.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(email address on website)

In article <trin.2936w2 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk>, trin
<trin.2936w2 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk> writes
>
>Before I ask any more gardening questions, I would just like someone to
>clarify for me the relationship between Garden Banter and this
>forum(I'm sure I'm not meant to use that word). I found the you through
>Garden Banter and thought it was part of that site. Is it not? I notice
>that below my name in a post it says registered user rather than
>usernet poster.
>I started posting here because it made sense to ask questions about
>gardening in Britain to a British group. If this is a private site or
>invitation only please accept my apologies.
>I'm afraid I tried to read the link about usenet in garden banter. It
>was called Lost in Usenet..... and I'm still lost

Welcome to urg where you will be warmly looked after by many
knowledgeable gardeners who, in my opinion, are the best on usenet. I
know nothing about garden banter as I only contribute to urg.

However, this is not a private group in any way and some of us have even
met each other. When I was very new to urg, Kay hosted a meet at Leeds
and I had a wonderful time where I was welcomed by everyone and I stayed
overnight with Kay and her "boys". urg is a great place to ask about
anything gardening in the UK. One little word of advice is that there
are FAQs (Frequently asked questions) and a lot of the time, the answers
may be in there which will save you typing your fingers down to the
bone.

Finally, don't worry about making a mistake by asking the same question
twice, in general they are patient and tolerant and treat those like me,
a bit of an idiot in the garden, with enormous respect; they only give
trolls a hard time and rightly so.

--
Judith Lea

Judith Lea wrote:
> In article <trin.2936w2 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk>, trin
> <trin.2936w2 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk> writes
>>
>> Before I ask any more gardening questions, I would just like someone to
>> clarify for me the relationship between Garden Banter and this
>> forum(I'm sure I'm not meant to use that word). I found the you through
>> Garden Banter and thought it was part of that site. Is it not? I notice
>> that below my name in a post it says registered user rather than
>> usernet poster.
>> I started posting here because it made sense to ask questions about
>> gardening in Britain to a British group. If this is a private site or
>> invitation only please accept my apologies.
>> I'm afraid I tried to read the link about usenet in garden banter. It
>> was called Lost in Usenet..... and I'm still lost
>
> Welcome to urg where you will be warmly looked after by many
> knowledgeable gardeners who, in my opinion, are the best on usenet. I
> know nothing about garden banter as I only contribute to urg.
>
> However, this is not a private group in any way and some of us have even
> met each other. When I was very new to urg, Kay hosted a meet at Leeds
> and I had a wonderful time where I was welcomed by everyone and I stayed
> overnight with Kay and her "boys". urg is a great place to ask about
> anything gardening in the UK. One little word of advice is that there
> are FAQs (Frequently asked questions) and a lot of the time, the answers
> may be in there which will save you typing your fingers down to the bone.
>
> Finally, don't worry about making a mistake by asking the same question
> twice, in general they are patient and tolerant and treat those like me,
> a bit of an idiot in the garden, with enormous respect; they only give
> trolls a hard time and rightly so.
>
I think Sacha left out those of us that are stumbling around in the
dark, and are given glimpses of blinding light by the experienced ones.
MC is right and wrong, sooner or later we all upset someone, sometimes
unintentionally, just apologise if you do or ignore the flak, it will go
away.

In article <ep6dndDna4MxrhXZRVny1Q [at] bt.com>,
"Michael Crowe" <not [at] here.thanks> writes:
|>
|> In a nutshell, to the 'owners' ie those who have been here for a thousand
|> years, NO other gardening forum, newsgroup, gardening information media, is
|> as good as uk.rec.gardening, commonly known as 'urg' and the users therein
|> known as urglers!!

Well, as one of the first half-dozen posters, I need to point out that
nobody has ever claimed to own the group. But I certainly don't know of
a better forum.

|> If you speak your mind, then you will be hounded down and known as a troll,
|> trouble maker, nasty piece of work etc etc etc, whatever the 'owners' decide
|> to use at the time.

Oh, Mike! Despite your trollish tendencies, we love you dearly. But
I definitely need to point out that you are twaddling, even if not
actually trolling.

|> HOWEVER, you have found one of the most informative sites on gardening, even
|> "I" have found it useful and I am not a gardener, my wife is :-))))

I agree, and I am one!

|> Now, to see what I mean about 'attacks', sit back and just see the petty
|> remarks which will now come in :-))

Yes, dear. Whatever you say, dear.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

"Michael Crowe" <not [at] here.thanks> wrote >
> "trin" <trin.2936w2 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote >>
>> Before I ask any more gardening questions, I would just like someone to
>> clarify for me the relationship between Garden Banter and this
>> forum(I'm sure I'm not meant to use that word). I found the you through
>> Garden Banter and thought it was part of that site. Is it not? I notice
>> that below my name in a post it says registered user rather than
>> usernet poster.
>> I started posting here because it made sense to ask questions about
>> gardening in Britain to a British group. If this is a private site or
>> invitation only please accept my apologies.
>> I'm afraid I tried to read the link about usenet in garden banter. It
>> was called Lost in Usenet..... and I'm still lost
>> trin
>
> In a nutshell
<SNIPPED>
> Michael Crowe

Take no notice of Mike. he's gets grouchy at times.
URG is a wonderful newsgroup and most people here are helpful and full of
knowledge :~)

Here's some info about newsgroups: http://www.usenet.org.uk/

Welcome and ask away :~)
Jenny

snip

I have always found this group to be very kind and helpful even when I
ask a daft question like wot I did re. pyracantha`s, should have known
better but that demonstrates the fact that no one jumped down my throat
and told me off. Stick with us and you will be fine.

kate morgan - a somebody :-)))

In article <4eqv6oF1g72ktU1 [at] individual.net>, Broadback
<wen [at] towill.plus.com> writes
>I think Sacha left out those of us that are stumbling around in the
>dark, and are given glimpses of blinding light by the experienced ones.
>MC is right and wrong, sooner or later we all upset someone, sometimes
>unintentionally, just apologise if you do or ignore the flak, it will
>go away.

Sacha is one of the most knowledgeable and likeable people in urg and I
KNOW that if you want any advice about anything to do with gardening she
will answer it and if she doesn't know, she will ask Ray who does.

With regard to your mention of another poster with initials, I'm afraid
that I don't see that poster's posts - through choice.
--
Judith Lea

> --
> Judith Lea

a 'somebody' :-))

Michael Crowe FEP
Who didn't go to a Convent but knows what Convent girls are :-)))))))

;-)
--
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Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rnshipmates.co.uk
International Festival of the Sea 28th June - 1st July 2007

On 8/6/06 17:08, in article 4er0bjF1g1r1hU1 [at] individual.net, "JennyC"
<Jenny.squirrel [at] chello.nl> wrote:

>
> "Michael Crowe" <not [at] here.thanks> wrote >
>> "trin" <trin.2936w2 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote >>
>>> Before I ask any more gardening questions, I would just like someone to
>>> clarify for me the relationship between Garden Banter and this
>>> forum(I'm sure I'm not meant to use that word). I found the you through
>>> Garden Banter and thought it was part of that site. Is it not? I notice
>>> that below my name in a post it says registered user rather than
>>> usernet poster.
>>> I started posting here because it made sense to ask questions about
>>> gardening in Britain to a British group. If this is a private site or
>>> invitation only please accept my apologies.
>>> I'm afraid I tried to read the link about usenet in garden banter. It
>>> was called Lost in Usenet..... and I'm still lost
>>> trin
>>
>> In a nutshell
> <SNIPPED>
>> Michael Crowe
>
> Take no notice of Mike. he's gets grouchy at times.

Mike does not get grouchy at times. Mike is a troll and a petulant and
spiteful one, too. You want to take a look at some of the remarks about him
in other groups he's infested!
There has never been a bad situation on urg since he barged in, that he has
not attempted to make worse and this one is a case in point - a perfect
illustration. Other than yourself, I cannot think of anyone who bothers
with Mike any more on a regular, or even irregular, basis because he has
shown himself in his true and horrible colours far too often. He is
ludicrously and risibly boastful about any subject you care to name into
which he can stick an oar and is a genuine laughing-stock because of it. He
is a liar and he is *exceedingly* malicious. So please don't put any of
that deliberate and calculated nastiness down to 'grouchy', because it is
incredibly misleading.
Even those who have mistakenly cosied up to him when they were newbies and
he was trying to do his "owners of the group won't like YOU" stuff, have
stopped talking to him.
He is also a hyperactive attention-seeker who would rather eat his own
pancreas than go unnoticed and ignored.

> URG is a wonderful newsgroup and most people here are helpful and full of
> knowledge :~)

There we do agree.
>
> Here's some info about newsgroups: http://www.usenet.org.uk/
>
> Welcome and ask away :~)
> Jenny
>
>
And there.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(email address on website)

....
> > --
> > Judith Lea
>
> a 'somebody' :-))
>
> Michael Crowe FEP
> Who didn't go to a Convent but knows what Convent girls are :-)))))))
>
> ;-)

Oh you are awful but we like you, I think :-)))

trin <trin.2936w2 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk> writes
>
>Before I ask any more gardening questions, I would just like someone to
>clarify for me the relationship between Garden Banter and this
>forum(I'm sure I'm not meant to use that word). I found the you through
>Garden Banter and thought it was part of that site. Is it not?

No, uk.rec.gardening is not part of gardenbanter. It existed long before
gardenbanter was even thought of. It will continue to exist even if
gardenbanter folds. Gardenbanter merely copies our posts to its own
site, and redirects your posts to uk.rec.gardening.

> I notice
>that below my name in a post it says registered user rather than
>usernet poster.

You are a registered user of gerdenbanter and are using gardenbanter to
read and post to the usenet newsgroup uk.rec.gardening. I am reading
uk.rec.gardening direct, using software capable of reading newsgroups -
in my case Turnpike.

>I started posting here because it made sense to ask questions about
>gardening in Britain to a British group.

Indeed!

> If this is a private site or
>invitation only please accept my apologies.

No this is an open newsgroup (*not* a site) and you are very welcome.

>I'm afraid I tried to read the link about usenet in garden banter. It
>was called Lost in Usenet..... and I'm still lost


Try an experiment -
go into Google, look at the line above the search box and click on
'groups'
Then enter any word you fancy and click 'search' - that will bring up
posts from newgroups containing your search term - that will give you
some idea of the huge number of newsgroups that are out here
--
Kay

Sacha.

I have told you before. I am spoken for and as such I know it hurts you. You
MUST accept this. I am sorry but ALL the hero worship in the world will not
alter the fact.

Please, please, please live with the fact that you cannot have me now,
tomorrow, the next day or EVER.

It is no good being spiteful and saying nasty things. The facts are the
facts.

Michael Crowe
a 'somebody'



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www.rnshipmates.co.uk
International Festival of the Sea 28th June - 1st July 2007

> >
> > Michael Crowe FEP
> > Who didn't go to a Convent but knows what Convent girls are :-)))))))
> >
> > ;-)
>
> Oh you are awful but we like you, I think :-)))

Of course you do :-))

Michael Crowe FEP
a 'somebody' ;-))

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www.rnshipmates.co.uk
International Festival of the Sea 28th June - 1st July 2007

"Sacha" <sacha [at] privacy.net> wrote in message
news:C0AE1568.313C3%sacha [at] privacy.net...
> On 8/6/06 17:08, in article 4er0bjF1g1r1hU1 [at] individual.net, "JennyC"
> <Jenny.squirrel [at] chello.nl> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Michael Crowe" <not [at] here.thanks> wrote >
>>> "trin" <trin.2936w2 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote >>
>>>> Before I ask any more gardening questions, I would just like someone to
>>>> clarify for me the relationship between Garden Banter and this
>>>> forum(I'm sure I'm not meant to use that word). I found the you through
>>>> Garden Banter and thought it was part of that site. Is it not? I notice
>>>> that below my name in a post it says registered user rather than
>>>> usernet poster.
>>>> I started posting here because it made sense to ask questions about
>>>> gardening in Britain to a British group. If this is a private site or
>>>> invitation only please accept my apologies.
>>>> I'm afraid I tried to read the link about usenet in garden banter. It
>>>> was called Lost in Usenet..... and I'm still lost
>>>> trin
>>>
>>> In a nutshell
>> <SNIPPED>
>>> Michael Crowe
>>
>> Take no notice of Mike. he's gets grouchy at times.
>
> Mike does not get grouchy at times. Mike is a troll and a petulant and
> spiteful one, too.

<snip>

I know - i was being sarcastic :~))

On 8/6/06 19:52, in article 4er9uhF1gcirfU1 [at] individual.net, "JennyC"
<Jenny.squirrel [at] chello.nl> wrote:

>
> "Sacha" <sacha [at] privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:C0AE1568.313C3%sacha [at] privacy.net...
>> On 8/6/06 17:08, in article 4er0bjF1g1r1hU1 [at] individual.net, "JennyC"
>> <Jenny.squirrel [at] chello.nl> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Michael Crowe" <not [at] here.thanks> wrote >
>>>> "trin" <trin.2936w2 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote >>
>>>>> Before I ask any more gardening questions, I would just like someone to
>>>>> clarify for me the relationship between Garden Banter and this
>>>>> forum(I'm sure I'm not meant to use that word). I found the you through
>>>>> Garden Banter and thought it was part of that site. Is it not? I notice
>>>>> that below my name in a post it says registered user rather than
>>>>> usernet poster.
>>>>> I started posting here because it made sense to ask questions about
>>>>> gardening in Britain to a British group. If this is a private site or
>>>>> invitation only please accept my apologies.
>>>>> I'm afraid I tried to read the link about usenet in garden banter. It
>>>>> was called Lost in Usenet..... and I'm still lost
>>>>> trin
>>>>
>>>> In a nutshell
>>> <SNIPPED>
>>>> Michael Crowe
>>>
>>> Take no notice of Mike. he's gets grouchy at times.
>>
>> Mike does not get grouchy at times. Mike is a troll and a petulant and
>> spiteful one, too.
>
> <snip>
>
> I know - i was being sarcastic :~))
>
>
There's subtle and there's obscure..... Grouchy. Sighhhhhh.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(email address on website)

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K Wrote:
> trin trin.2936w2 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk writes[color=blue]
> ...........
> No, uk.rec.gardening is not part of gardenbanter. It existed long
> before
> gardenbanter was even thought of. It will continue to exist even if
> gardenbanter folds. Gardenbanter merely copies our posts to its own
> site, and redirects your posts to uk.rec.gardening.
> ..........
> You are a registered user of gerdenbanter and are using gardenbanter
> to
> read and post to the usenet newsgroup uk.rec.gardening. I am reading
> uk.rec.gardening direct, using software capable of reading newsgroups
> -
> in my case Turnpike.
> .........
> Indeed!
> ..........
> No this is an open newsgroup (*not* a site) and you are very welcome.
>
> Kay
Thanks to Kay and everyone else for making me welcome. And for
explaining how you "work".
I've just spotted the FAQ button on the bar above. I'll take a look at
that too.

I'm looking forward to getting answers to all my questions. Hope I'll
be able to give a little input too.


--
trin

trin Wrote:
> Before I ask any more gardening questions, I would just like someone to
> clarify for me the relationship between Garden Banter and this
> forum(I'm sure I'm not meant to use that word). I found the you through
> Garden Banter and thought it was part of that site. Is it not? I notice
> that below my name in a post it says registered user rather than
> usernet poster.
> I started posting here because it made sense to ask questions about
> gardening in Britain to a British group. If this is a private site or
> invitation only please accept my apologies.
> I'm afraid I tried to read the link about usenet in garden banter. It
> was called Lost in Usenet..... and I'm still lost
........................................

Hi! trin.
I see you are on line. Personally I don't know any of these people, I
have
only used the site recently to ask a few questions, and impart a bit of
my personal
gardening knowledge where, I thought it might help someone. But it is
quite obvious,
as I am sure you have realised by now, that you/we are impinging on the
territory of
a bunch of folk who have known each other for some time and have formed
a certain cosiness. A totally natural, human characteristic, - we are
all the same in this respect
However some particularly insecure people become apprehensive about a
newcomer, - who may be potentially disruptive, or who may "steal" their
friends affections, - and they will try to make you feel uncomfortable.
There is one such
on this page, who can be so disturbed as to become particularly
infantile in his comments on the discovery of a newcomer.
The more mature will try to welcome any new blood as a possible
source of additional interest.
For myself, if I wanted social contact, I would go to a social site.
I am here solely to increase my gardening knowledge, and couldn't give
the proverbial "reservoir"
for personalities good bad or indifferent.
All the best to you
Dave


--
Dave Roberts

In message <-oednQI0lIiexRXZRVnytQ [at] bt.com>, Michael Crowe
<not [at] here.thanks> writes
>I have told you before. I am spoken for and as such I know it hurts
>you. You MUST accept this. I am sorry but ALL the hero worship in the
>world will not alter the fact.

pathetic!

d
--
dave or stella [at] stejonda

In message <trin.294480 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk>, trin
<trin.294480 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk> writes
>
>Thanks to Kay and everyone else for making me welcome. And for
>explaining how you "work".
>I've just spotted the FAQ button on the bar above. I'll take a look at
>that too.
>
>I'm looking forward to getting answers to all my questions. Hope I'll
>be able to give a little input too.
>
>
I am sure you will. Enjoy.
--
June Hughes

trin <trin.294480 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk> writes
>
>Thanks to Kay and everyone else for making me welcome. And for
>explaining how you "work".
>I've just spotted the FAQ button on the bar above. I'll take a look at
>that too.

That may be the gardenbanter FAQ.

See if you can see a post in the uk.rec.gardening box that is an 'abc
for newcomers' - I think that tells you where our FAQs are.
>
>I'm looking forward to getting answers to all my questions. Hope I'll
>be able to give a little input too.

Questions are input too. They make you think about what you know in
different ways and therefore add to your understanding.
>
>

--
Kay

>
> Questions are input too. They make you think about what you know in
> different ways and therefore add to your understanding.
> >
> >

That is a very valid point Kay, I used to use the question technique in my
lectures. "Why should ......" "What do you think .....". I learnt this when
I was at H.M.S.Collingwood and as a student I learnt a lot off the other
students, thus I applied it later in life when I became a Lecturer :-))

Michael Crowe


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www.rnshipmates.co.uk
International Festival of the Sea 28th June - 1st July 2007

Dave Roberts wrote:
> trin Wrote:
> > Before I ask any more gardening questions, I would just like someone to
> > clarify for me the relationship between Garden Banter and this
> > forum(I'm sure I'm not meant to use that word). I found the you through
> > Garden Banter and thought it was part of that site. Is it not? I notice
> > that below my name in a post it says registered user rather than
> > usernet poster.
> > I started posting here because it made sense to ask questions about
> > gardening in Britain to a British group. If this is a private site or
> > invitation only please accept my apologies.
> > I'm afraid I tried to read the link about usenet in garden banter. It
> > was called Lost in Usenet..... and I'm still lost
> . ........................................
>
> Hi! trin.
> I see you are on line. Personally I don't know any of these people, I
> have
> only used the site recently to ask a few questions, and impart a bit of
> my personal
> gardening knowledge where, I thought it might help someone. But it is
> quite obvious,
> as I am sure you have realised by now, that you/we are impinging on the
> territory of
> a bunch of folk who have known each other for some time and have formed
> a certain cosiness. A totally natural, human characteristic, - we are
> all the same in this respect
> However some particularly insecure people become apprehensive about a
> newcomer, - who may be potentially disruptive, or who may "steal" their
> friends affections, - and they will try to make you feel uncomfortable.
> There is one such
> on this page, who can be so disturbed as to become particularly
> infantile in his comments on the discovery of a newcomer.
> The more mature will try to welcome any new blood as a possible
> source of additional interest.
> For myself, if I wanted social contact, I would go to a social site.
> I am here solely to increase my gardening knowledge, and couldn't give
> the proverbial "reservoir"
> for personalities good bad or indifferent.
> All the best to you
> Dave
>

This is actually quite a typical comment. I subscribe and contribute
to a small handful of newsgroups through a variety of newsreaders. And
everywhere, some people who contribute regularly to the group form a
relative closeness - including occasional "real world" outings - which
some other contributors resent and perceive as a way of excluding them
from god knows what.
Let us not forget: usenet is the product of human nature, and reflects
normal human social interaction. However, is not the real world, and
people should know better than get their knickers in a twist over a
comment passed on urg or any other ng. If someone says something which
ruffles your feathers, say so, or better again, make a witty joke of
it, and move on. Life is too short for paranoia or holding grudges.
I am a recent and very irregular contributor here, mostly looking for
advice as a new gardener. I have always been courteously received
here, and my questions have always been answered most helpfully. It
helps that the group is very focussed on gardening, very active, and is
quite good, by usenet standards, at staying on topic.
Many other groups I either contribute to or have come across are far
less so, feature more flame wars, lovingly nurtured abusive trolls -
including scary stalkers - and all manners of other usenet delights.
Urg is an excellent newsgroup. Just pick and choose, get a feel for
the contributors, get what you need out of it, make the odd
contribution yourself, learn to killfile those you are allergic to, or
simply ignore the politics if you don't like them.

Cat(h)

.. However, is not the real world, and
> people should know better than get their knickers in a twist over a
> comment passed on urg or any other ng. If someone says something which
> ruffles your feathers, say so, or better again, make a witty joke of
> it, and move on.

Well said ;-))

Michael Crowe FEP


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"trin" <trin.294480 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote in message
news:trin.294480 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk...
>
> K Wrote:
>> trin trin.2936w2 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk writes[color=blue]
>> ...........
>> No, uk.rec.gardening is not part of gardenbanter. It existed long
>> before
>> gardenbanter was even thought of. It will continue to exist even if
>> gardenbanter folds. Gardenbanter merely copies our posts to its own
>> site, and redirects your posts to uk.rec.gardening.
>> ..........
>> You are a registered user of gerdenbanter and are using gardenbanter
>> to
>> read and post to the usenet newsgroup uk.rec.gardening. I am reading
>> uk.rec.gardening direct, using software capable of reading newsgroups
>> -
>> in my case Turnpike.
>> .........
>> Indeed!
>> ..........
>> No this is an open newsgroup (*not* a site) and you are very welcome.
>>
>> Kay
> Thanks to Kay and everyone else for making me welcome. And for
> explaining how you "work".
> I've just spotted the FAQ button on the bar above. I'll take a look at
> that too.
>
> I'm looking forward to getting answers to all my questions. Hope I'll
> be able to give a little input too.
>
>
> --
> trin

Have a look here for FAQ
http://www.tmac.clara.net/urgring/urgfaqs.htm

On 8/6/06 22:22, in article trin.294480 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk, "trin"
<trin.294480 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote:

>
> K Wrote:
>> trin trin.2936w2 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk writes[color=blue]
>> ...........
>> No, uk.rec.gardening is not part of gardenbanter. It existed long
>> before
>> gardenbanter was even thought of. It will continue to exist even if
>> gardenbanter folds. Gardenbanter merely copies our posts to its own
>> site, and redirects your posts to uk.rec.gardening.
>> ..........
>> You are a registered user of gerdenbanter and are using gardenbanter
>> to
>> read and post to the usenet newsgroup uk.rec.gardening. I am reading
>> uk.rec.gardening direct, using software capable of reading newsgroups
>> -
>> in my case Turnpike.
>> .........
>> Indeed!
>> ..........
>> No this is an open newsgroup (*not* a site) and you are very welcome.
>>
>> Kay
> Thanks to Kay and everyone else for making me welcome. And for
> explaining how you "work".
> I've just spotted the FAQ button on the bar above. I'll take a look at
> that too.
>
> I'm looking forward to getting answers to all my questions. Hope I'll
> be able to give a little input too.
>

I'm sure you will. Most of us have plenty to learn from each other, which
is why urg is so useful.
--
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www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(email address on website)

K Wrote:
> trin trin.294480 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk writes
>
>
> I've just spotted the FAQ button on the bar above. I'll take a look at
> that too.
>
> That may be the gardenbanter FAQ.
>
> See if you can see a post in the uk.rec.gardening box that is an 'abc
> for newcomers' - I think that tells you where our FAQs
> are.[color=blue]
>
> --
> Kay
I've tried the abc over the last 3 days or so, but when I try the link
provided to the FAQ's it says can't connect to server. I was not sure
if it was a "my end" problem due to the different way of reading posts


--
trin

"trin" <trin.2951k1 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote in message
news:trin.2951k1 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk...
>
> K Wrote:
>> trin trin.294480 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk writes
>>
>>
>> I've just spotted the FAQ button on the bar above. I'll take a look at
>> that too.
>>
>> That may be the gardenbanter FAQ.
>>
>> See if you can see a post in the uk.rec.gardening box that is an 'abc
>> for newcomers' - I think that tells you where our FAQs
>> are.[color=blue]
>>
>> --
>> Kay
> I've tried the abc over the last 3 days or so, but when I try the link
> provided to the FAQ's it says can't connect to server. I was not sure
> if it was a "my end" problem due to the different way of reading posts
> trin

Try this Trin
http://www.tmac.clara.co.uk/urgring/index.htm
Jenny

trin <trin.2951k1 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk> writes
>
>K Wrote:
>> trin trin.294480 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk writes
>>
>>
>> I've just spotted the FAQ button on the bar above. I'll take a look at
>> that too.
>>
>> That may be the gardenbanter FAQ.
>>
>> See if you can see a post in the uk.rec.gardening box that is an 'abc
>> for newcomers' - I think that tells you where our FAQs
>> are.[color=blue]
>>
>> --
>> Kay
>I've tried the abc over the last 3 days or so, but when I try the link
>provided to the FAQ's it says can't connect to server. I was not sure
>if it was a "my end" problem due to the different way of reading posts
>
Did you manage to connect to the link posted by Rupert?
>

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Kay

K Wrote:
> trin trin.2951k1 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk writes
>
> K Wrote:[color=green]
> Did you manage to connect to the link posted by Rupert?[color=blue]
>
>
> --
> Kay
Yes I did, thanks.


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trin

Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\) Wrote:
>
> Have a look here for FAQ
> http://tinyurl.com/jfvvu
Thank you, that will be a great help. It makes interesting reading too,
to hear lots of different ideas.


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trin

On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 22:32:29 +0100, trin wrote
(in article <trin.295yw1 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk>):

>
> K Wrote:
>> trin trin.2951k1 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk writes
>>
>> K Wrote:[color=green]
>> Did you manage to connect to the link posted by Rupert?[color=blue]


Does anyone know what this color=green, color=blue stuff is? I assume it's
something added by gardenbanter, but I've never seen it showing up like that
before. [Aside: supposing you are quoted in a colour you don't like? <g>]




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Whitton Open Gardens weekend 1st & 2nd July; enjoy the conservation
churchyard recently filmed for the BBC Heaven and Earth Show and see the
Burne-Jones/William Morris window: http://www.whitton-stmarys.org.uk

On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 22:52:29 +0000, Dave Roberts wrote:

>
<snip>
> For myself, if I wanted social contact, I would go to a social site.
> I am here solely to increase my gardening knowledge, and couldn't give
> the proverbial "reservoir"
> for personalities good bad or indifferent.
> All the best to you
> Dave

Damn - no Dave Roberts for days then you get a cluster.

Garden Banter are more than welcome - as is everyone - as long as they are
polite and instructive (or not too persistently rude).

Cheers

Dave R

"trin" <trin.2951k1 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote in message
news:trin.2951k1 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk...
>
> K Wrote:
> > trin trin.294480 [at] gardenbanter.co.uk writes
> >
> >
> > I've just spotted the FAQ button on the bar above. I'll take a look at
> > that too.
> >
> > That may be the gardenbanter FAQ.
> >
> > See if you can see a post in the uk.rec.gardening box that is an 'abc
> > for newcomers' - I think that tells you where our FAQs
> > are.[color=blue]
> >
> > --
> > Kay
> I've tried the abc over the last 3 days or so, but when I try the link
> provided to the FAQ's it says can't connect to server. I was not sure
> if it was a "my end" problem due to the different way of


try going to google

at the top of the search engine box you will see "Groups".

Click on there and then in the search field type in uk.rec.gardening

what do you get?

David WE Roberts <nospam [at] talk21.com> writes
>On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 22:52:29 +0000, Dave Roberts wrote:
>
>>
><snip>
>> For myself, if I wanted social contact, I would go to a social site.
>> I am here solely to increase my gardening knowledge, and couldn't give
>> the proverbial "reservoir"
>> for personalities good bad or indifferent.
>> All the best to you
>> Dave
>
>Damn - no Dave Roberts for days then you get a cluster.
>
>Garden Banter are more than welcome - as is everyone - as long as they are
>polite and instructive (or not too persistently rude).
>
Ah - was that a different Dave Roberts? That's a relief!
--
Kay