I wasted ages yesterday trying to talk with Mike Crowe. He wants to ban any
more house building on the Isle of Wight. I simply want to know where my
children and grandchildren and their grandchildren will be able to live if
no more houses will be built. I think thats a reasonable question dont you?
All he does is go on about what will happen if all the green fields are
built over but he doesnt say how long that would take. Of course he is OK
because he already has a house that was built on a green field. Lots of
other people joined in but Mike wont listen to anything they say or answer
any of their questions. He just goes on and on with the same old stuff even
when someone has dis-proved it.
I did a little web search and I found that Mike has lots of arguments with
people in uk.local.southwest and uk.rec.gardening so I am posting there to
ask you. What I want to know is, is he a real person or just a troll. How do
you get him to answer a straight question without getting all this stuff
that tries to avoid the question and change the subject, and all those silly
faces :((((((((. He says he was in the Navy, but I think if he behaved like
that on a ship he would be taught better manners. I dont have a lot of
experience of these groups so I would be glad for advice. Should I just
ignore him.

"Fisherman" <Fisherman [at] fishing.net> wrote in message
news:4fkiliF1imifcU1 [at] individual.net...
>I wasted ages yesterday trying to talk with Mike Crowe. He wants to ban any
>more house building on the Isle of Wight. I simply want to know where my
>children and grandchildren and their grandchildren will be able to live if
>no more houses will be built. I think thats a reasonable question dont you?
>All he does is go on about what will happen if all the green fields are
>built over but he doesnt say how long that would take. Of course he is OK
>because he already has a house that was built on a green field. Lots of
>other people joined in but Mike wont listen to anything they say or answer
>any of their questions. He just goes on and on with the same old stuff even
>when someone has dis-proved it.
> I did a little web search and I found that Mike has lots of arguments with
> people in uk.local.southwest and uk.rec.gardening so I am posting there to
> ask you. What I want to know is, is he a real person or just a troll. How
> do you get him to answer a straight question without getting all this
> stuff that tries to avoid the question and change the subject, and all
> those silly faces :((((((((. He says he was in the Navy, but I think if he
> behaved like that on a ship he would be taught better manners. I dont have
> a lot of experience of these groups so I would be glad for advice. Should
> I just ignore him.
>
>
>

so he's not allowed a say then..........

even if houses were built, would your kin be able to afford
them......certainly not here in Hampshire they can't.

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Fisherman wrote:
>What I want to know is, is he a real person or just a troll.

And here, ladies and gentlemen, you see the different between trolling,
as it actually is, and the activities of the likes of tilley / hancox /
stevens / and others.

Mr Crowe may or may not be trolling, that is the point, you can't tell
what it is.

tilley / hancox / stevens and others you can tell exactly what it is,
cowardly abuse and hate, the very last thing on the planet that it is,
is trolling.

I refer you to the Alex / Joan troll from 1982, which was so skilfully
done that the real person, alex, managed to convince everyone that the
fake persona, joan, was a real person, and he carried this off for over
two years, this was back in the compuserve / cix days.... "alex" only
got rumbled when "joan" managed to convince a real genuine woman poster
to have an affair with "alex" in real life.

On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:43:57 +0100, mark <no-onehere [at] noads.com> wrote:

> X-No-Archive: yes
> "Fisherman" <Fisherman [at] fishing.net> wrote in message
> news:4fkiliF1imifcU1 [at] individual.net...
>> I wasted ages yesterday trying to talk with Mike Crowe. He wants to ban
>> any
>> more house building on the Isle of Wight. I simply want to know where my
>> children and grandchildren and their grandchildren will be able to live
>> if
>> no more houses will be built. I think thats a reasonable question dont
>> you?
>> All he does is go on about what will happen if all the green fields are
>> built over but he doesnt say how long that would take. Of course he is
>> OK
>> because he already has a house that was built on a green field. Lots of
>> other people joined in but Mike wont listen to anything they say or
>> answer
>> any of their questions. He just goes on and on with the same old stuff
>> even
>> when someone has dis-proved it.
>> I did a little web search and I found that Mike has lots of arguments
>> with
>> people in uk.local.southwest and uk.rec.gardening so I am posting there
>> to
>> ask you. What I want to know is, is he a real person or just a troll.
>> How
>> do you get him to answer a straight question without getting all this
>> stuff that tries to avoid the question and change the subject, and all
>> those silly faces :((((((((. He says he was in the Navy, but I think if
>> he
>> behaved like that on a ship he would be taught better manners. I dont
>> have
>> a lot of experience of these groups so I would be glad for advice.
>> Should
>> I just ignore him.
>
>
>
> Oh, he's real alright.
> he has a 'certain style' let's say of debating. He is well known in
> other
> groups for similar argumentative postings but for me, it's his absolute
> black & white views that are so difficult to understand. His style is
> aggressive in my view and he seems to want people to apologise for
> something
> or other constantly.
> He has opinions, we all have those, and he is perfectly entitled to
> express
> them. Often because of his style and manner, the debate gets bogged
> down
> or just stops and I suspect that a large element of how people now
> respond
> to him is based upon his past attitudes which have been somewhat
> supercillious and unbending. In Mikes world, Mike knows best.
> Oh, and there's been a long running dispute with a poster called 'ken'
> that really is beyond the pale. [which in itself is sadly ironic because
> he
> constantly puffs up at posts that have..."nothing to do with the Isle of
> Wight" whilst engaging in mind numbing irrelevance with this particular
> poster]
>
> Mark
>


I'll second that. Mike's not a troll, he's a pussycat really.
As long as you understand that he's always right and you're always wrong,
you will have no problem with him.
I can't speak for the other groups, but I guess it's the same there.

Arthur

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On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 12:38:50 +0100, mark <no-onehere [at] noads.com> wrote:

> X-No-Archive: yes
> "Guy Fawkes" <davenull [at] blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1150628228.606106.4390 [at] f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Fisherman wrote:
>>> What I want to know is, is he a real person or just a troll.
>
> And here my friend fisherman, is the poster called 'ken' in person.
> Best avoided if you take my advcie...
>
>
> Mark
>

I don't think it is he, Mark. But worth avoiding anyway.

Arthur

"Fisherman" <Fisherman [at] fishing.net> wrote in message
news:4fkiliF1imifcU1 [at] individual.net...
>I wasted ages yesterday trying to talk with Mike Crowe.
snipped
> Should I just ignore him.

Yes
Jenny

On 18 Jun 2006 03:57:08 -0700, "Guy Fawkes"
<davenull [at] blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

<snip goading and ego-wanking>

Hopefully the judge will have the sense to lock you all up together
(including Crowe) and broadcast the footage to entertain the whole
usenet community.

P.S. Which well known usenet fucktard wrote the following?

"beware people who pose as other people who dislike them, and who
never knowingly tell lies, and yet who allege quite scandalous things
about the former, for if you go down this road you lay yourself open
to "difficulties" "

--
lazarus

Post removed (X-No-Archive: yes)

laz wrote:
> On 18 Jun 2006 03:57:08 -0700, "Guy Fawkes"
> <davenull [at] blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
> <snip goading and ego-wanking>
>
> Hopefully the judge will have the sense to lock you all up together
> (including Crowe) and broadcast the footage to entertain the whole
> usenet community.
>
> P.S. Which well known usenet fucktard wrote the following?
>
> "beware people who pose as other people who dislike them, and who
> never knowingly tell lies, and yet who allege quite scandalous things
> about the former, for if you go down this road you lay yourself open
> to "difficulties" "
>
> --
> lazarus

oh, it's "lazarus" now is it...

you should increase your vocab, "ego wanking" and "fucktard" kinda
gives the game away, as do others such as "knobcheese" etc

Q/ What can't someone called Christine join the masons?

A/ Because the masons are men only.

can't call a girlie "brother" after all, can you

>
> Q/ What can't someone called Christine join the masons?
>
> A/ Because the masons are men only.
>
> can't call a girlie "brother" after all, can you
>


You might find the following of educational value.

http://www.hfaf.org/

You might also like to open the link of the message from Grand Lodge

I hope that helps all of you who are under the misapprehension that
Freemasonry is for men only ;-)))

I have in fact attended quite a few Women's Freemasonry Social Functions and
know that they are 'alive and well' here on the Isle of Wight

If I can be of any further help on this matter, please do not hesitate to
come back to me :-)))

Mike



--
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Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rnshipmates.co.uk
International Festival of the Sea 28th June - 1st July 2007






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Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rnshipmates.co.uk
International Festival of the Sea 28th June - 1st July 2007

On 18 Jun 2006 08:08:59 -0700, "Guy Fawkes"
<davenull [at] blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>oh, it's "lazarus" now is it...

Yes and it has been for a *very* long time...

>you should increase your vocab, "ego wanking" and "fucktard" kinda
>gives the game away, as do others such as "knobcheese" etc

LOL, go on then bunty, who's sock are you accusing me of being?

Your sock busting skills appear rather poor. You did after all
insinuate that Crowe was a 'ken' sock!!!

>Q/ What can't someone called Christine join the masons?
>
>A/ Because the masons are men only.
>
>can't call a girlie "brother" after all, can you

Was that a joke? If so, I don't get it.

I find your rants far more entertaining.

--
lazarus

"Mike" <not [at] here.thanks> wrote in message
news:jZGdne6YCNLJ8gjZnZ2dnUVZ8qSdnZ2d [at] bt.com...
>
>
>
>>
>> Q/ What can't someone called Christine join the masons?
>>
>> A/ Because the masons are men only.
>>
>> can't call a girlie "brother" after all, can you
>>
>
>
> You might find the following of educational value.
>
> http://www.hfaf.org/
>
> You might also like to open the link of the message from Grand Lodge
>
> I hope that helps all of you who are under the misapprehension that
> Freemasonry is for men only ;-)))
>
> I have in fact attended quite a few Women's Freemasonry Social Functions
> and
> know that they are 'alive and well' here on the Isle of Wight
>
> If I can be of any further help on this matter, please do not hesitate to
> come back to me :-)))
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> --
> ------------------------------------------------
> Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
> www.rnshipmates.co.uk
> International Festival of the Sea 28th June - 1st July 2007
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> ------------------------------------------------
> Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
> www.rnshipmates.co.uk
> International Festival of the Sea 28th June - 1st July 2007
>
>
Thanks for the doubtful benefit of the "education".

The ladies look as sanctimonious, supercilious, self-centred, snotty and
joyless as you yourself appear to be.

Rollo

"Fisherman" <Fisherman [at] fishing.net> wrote in message
news:4fkiliF1imifcU1 [at] individual.net...
>I wasted ages yesterday trying to talk with Mike Crowe. He wants to ban any
>more house building on the Isle of Wight. I simply want to know where my
>children and grandchildren and their grandchildren will be able to live if
>no more houses will be built. I think thats a reasonable question dont you?
>All he does is go on about what will happen if all the green fields are
>built over but he doesnt say how long that would take. Of course he is OK
>because he already has a house that was built on a green field. Lots of
>other people joined in but Mike wont listen to anything they say or answer
>any of their questions. He just goes on and on with the same old stuff even
>when someone has dis-proved it.
> I did a little web search and I found that Mike has lots of arguments with
> people in uk.local.southwest and uk.rec.gardening so I am posting there to
> ask you. What I want to know is, is he a real person or just a troll. How
> do you get him to answer a straight question without getting all this
> stuff that tries to avoid the question and change the subject, and all
> those silly faces :((((((((. He says he was in the Navy, but I think if he
> behaved like that on a ship he would be taught better manners. I dont have
> a lot of experience of these groups so I would be glad for advice. Should
> I just ignore him.
>

Im sorry everyone. I didnt mean to start all this. I just wanted to ask
about Mike Crowe but he seems to have some strange friends.

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In message <1150643339.096806.313770 [at] h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Guy
Fawkes <davenull [at] blueyonder.co.uk> writes
>Q/ What can't someone called Christine join the masons?
>
>A/ Because the masons are men only.
>
>can't call a girlie "brother" after all, can you
>
You obviously haven't met some of the girls round here. LOL
--
Gerbil

"Mike" <not [at] here.thanks> wrote in message
news:jZGdne6YCNLJ8gjZnZ2dnUVZ8qSdnZ2d [at] bt.com...
>
>
>
>>
>> Q/ What can't someone called Christine join the masons?
>>
>> A/ Because the masons are men only.
>>
>> can't call a girlie "brother" after all, can you
>>
>
>
> You might find the following of educational value.
>
> http://www.hfaf.org/
>
> You might also like to open the link of the message from Grand Lodge
>
> I hope that helps all of you who are under the misapprehension that
> Freemasonry is for men only ;-)))
>
> I have in fact attended quite a few Women's Freemasonry Social Functions
> and
> know that they are 'alive and well' here on the Isle of Wight
>
> If I can be of any further help on this matter, please do not hesitate to
> come back to me :-)))
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> --
> ------------------------------------------------
> Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
> www.rnshipmates.co.uk
> International Festival of the Sea 28th June - 1st July 2007
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> ------------------------------------------------
> Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
> www.rnshipmates.co.uk
> International Festival of the Sea 28th June - 1st July 2007


Strange...............you were saying only the other day that it was
impossible for a woman to join the freemasons!

Maybe the fact is that the many years you have spent telling lies, has
resulted in you having no idea when you are doing it?

"Guy Fawkes" <davenull [at] blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1150628228.606106.4390 [at] f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
> Fisherman wrote:
>>What I want to know is, is he a real person or just a troll.
>
> And here, ladies and gentlemen, you see the different between trolling,
> as it actually is, and the activities of the likes of tilley / hancox /
> stevens / and others.
>
> Mr Crowe may or may not be trolling, that is the point, you can't tell
> what it is.
>
> tilley / hancox / stevens and others you can tell exactly what it is,
> cowardly abuse and hate, the very last thing on the planet that it is,
> is trolling.
>
> I refer you to the Alex / Joan troll from 1982, which was so skilfully
> done that the real person, alex, managed to convince everyone that the
> fake persona, joan, was a real person, and he carried this off for over
> two years, this was back in the compuserve / cix days.... "alex" only
> got rumbled when "joan" managed to convince a real genuine woman poster
> to have an affair with "alex" in real life.



Would you say that posts from john "baldrick" bunt, suggesting he is going
to bomb police stations, has downloaded and watched kiddie porn, and many
others along similiar lines, are in fact trolls, or just general banter,
that is not likely to upset anyone at all?

"Fisherman" <Fisherman [at] fishing.net> wrote in message
news:4fldreF1jh4t6U1 [at] individual.net...
>
> "Fisherman" <Fisherman [at] fishing.net> wrote in message
> news:4fkiliF1imifcU1 [at] individual.net...
>>I wasted ages yesterday trying to talk with Mike Crowe. He wants to ban
>>any more house building on the Isle of Wight. I simply want to know where
>>my children and grandchildren and their grandchildren will be able to live
>>if no more houses will be built. I think thats a reasonable question dont
>>you? All he does is go on about what will happen if all the green fields
>>are built over but he doesnt say how long that would take. Of course he is
>>OK because he already has a house that was built on a green field. Lots of
>>other people joined in but Mike wont listen to anything they say or answer
>>any of their questions. He just goes on and on with the same old stuff
>>even when someone has dis-proved it.
>> I did a little web search and I found that Mike has lots of arguments
>> with people in uk.local.southwest and uk.rec.gardening so I am posting
>> there to ask you. What I want to know is, is he a real person or just a
>> troll. How do you get him to answer a straight question without getting
>> all this stuff that tries to avoid the question and change the subject,
>> and all those silly faces :((((((((. He says he was in the Navy, but I
>> think if he behaved like that on a ship he would be taught better
>> manners. I dont have a lot of experience of these groups so I would be
>> glad for advice. Should I just ignore him.
>>
>
> Im sorry everyone. I didnt mean to start all this. I just wanted to ask
> about Mike Crowe but he seems to have some strange friends.



Quite simply in common with baldrick bunt, Crowe is a complete cunt, and
should be avoided at all costs!

He really doesnt have a clue about anything he posts about, and if you
remember the Monty Python sketch about the arguments, you will have a pretty
good idea of the reason the pratt keeps posting......................

There are none so blind ............

There are none so deaf .........................

The truth will prevail :-)))))))))))))

Mike

--
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www.rnshipmates.co.uk
International Festival of the Sea 28th June - 1st July 2007


"Guy Fawkes" <dave_null [at] blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:44958d4a [at] 212.67.96.135...
>
> "Mike" <not [at] here.thanks> wrote in message
> news:jZGdne6YCNLJ8gjZnZ2dnUVZ8qSdnZ2d [at] bt.com...
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Q/ What can't someone called Christine join the masons?
> >>
> >> A/ Because the masons are men only.
> >>
> >> can't call a girlie "brother" after all, can you
> >>
> >
> >
> > You might find the following of educational value.
> >
> > http://www.hfaf.org/
> >
> > You might also like to open the link of the message from Grand Lodge
> >
> > I hope that helps all of you who are under the misapprehension that
> > Freemasonry is for men only ;-)))
> >
> > I have in fact attended quite a few Women's Freemasonry Social Functions
> > and
> > know that they are 'alive and well' here on the Isle of Wight
> >
> > If I can be of any further help on this matter, please do not hesitate
to
> > come back to me :-)))
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ------------------------------------------------
> > Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
> > www.rnshipmates.co.uk
> > International Festival of the Sea 28th June - 1st July 2007
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ------------------------------------------------
> > Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
> > www.rnshipmates.co.uk
> > International Festival of the Sea 28th June - 1st July 2007
>
>
> Strange...............you were saying only the other day that it was
> impossible for a woman to join the freemasons!
>
> Maybe the fact is that the many years you have spent telling lies, has
> resulted in you having no idea when you are doing it?
>
>
>

In message <4fldreF1jh4t6U1 [at] individual.net>, Fisherman
<Fisherman [at] fishing.net> writes
>
>Im sorry everyone. I didnt mean to start all this. I just wanted to ask
>about Mike Crowe but he seems to have some strange friends.
>
>
At least he has friends
--
Gerbil

Mike wrote:
>
> There are none so blind ............
>
> There are none so deaf .........................
>
> The truth will prevail :-)))))))))))))
>
> Mike

The tooth will prevail :-)))))))))))))

Must dash...

Oi................cunt!.........seems to me an effective form of address for
this person.


"Fisherman" <Fisherman [at] fishing.net> wrote in message
news:4fkiliF1imifcU1 [at] individual.net...
>I wasted ages yesterday trying to talk with Mike Crowe. He wants to ban any
>more house building on the Isle of Wight. I simply want to know where my
>children and grandchildren and their grandchildren will be able to live if
>no more houses will be built. I think thats a reasonable question dont you?
>All he does is go on about what will happen if all the green fields are
>built over but he doesnt say how long that would take. Of course he is OK
>because he already has a house that was built on a green field. Lots of
>other people joined in but Mike wont listen to anything they say or answer
>any of their questions. He just goes on and on with the same old stuff even
>when someone has dis-proved it.
> I did a little web search and I found that Mike has lots of arguments with
> people in uk.local.southwest and uk.rec.gardening so I am posting there to
> ask you. What I want to know is, is he a real person or just a troll. How
> do you get him to answer a straight question without getting all this
> stuff that tries to avoid the question and change the subject, and all
> those silly faces :((((((((. He says he was in the Navy, but I think if he
> behaved like that on a ship he would be taught better manners. I dont have
> a lot of experience of these groups so I would be glad for advice. Should
> I just ignore him.
>
>
>

"Guy Fawkes" <dave_null [at] blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>if you
>remember the Monty Python sketch about the arguments, you will have a pretty
>good idea of the reason the pratt keeps posting......................

No you don't!


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

Guy Fawkes wrote:

>
> Would you say that posts from john "baldrick" bunt, suggesting he is going
> to bomb police stations, has downloaded and watched kiddie porn, and many
> others along similiar lines, are in fact trolls, or just general banter,
> that is not likely to upset anyone at all?

I would say, as a statement of fact, that the above post, made by
defendant #2, chris stevens, is yet more malicious and defamatory crap,
all grist to the mill come the 27th of next month.

How many days away is that now.

Having just re-watched "Enron - the smartest guys in the room" I am
strongly reminded of two things.

a/ The Enron big wig was a body double for the bad guy from captain
scarlet

b/ you lot (the defendants) have more than a passing amount in common
with the enron executives, who thought they could keep on telling ever
larger lies and nobody would ever bring them to book for it.

Guy Fawkes wrote:
> Guy Fawkes wrote:
>
> >
> > Would you say that posts from john "baldrick" bunt, suggesting he is going
> > to bomb police stations, has downloaded and watched kiddie porn, and many
> > others along similiar lines, are in fact trolls, or just general banter,
> > that is not likely to upset anyone at all?
>
> I would say, as a statement of fact, that the above post, made by
> defendant #2, chris stevens, is yet more malicious and defamatory crap,
> all grist to the mill come the 27th of next month.
>
> How many days away is that now.
>
> Having just re-watched "Enron - the smartest guys in the room" I am
> strongly reminded of two things.
>
> a/ The Enron big wig was a body double for the bad guy from captain
> scarlet
>
> b/ you lot (the defendants) have more than a passing amount in common
> with the enron executives, who thought they could keep on telling ever
> larger lies and nobody would ever bring them to book for it.
As one of *you lot* .....could you , Mr knobcheese , advise on what
you think I should bring to court with me bearing in mind your argument
that we are all going to prison.
Or is it another fantasy of what Mr Knobcheese would like to happen

"Guy Fawkes" <davenull [at] blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1150662969.108459.123430 [at] i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> Guy Fawkes wrote:
>
>>
>> Would you say that posts from john "baldrick" bunt, suggesting he is
>> going
>> to bomb police stations, has downloaded and watched kiddie porn, and many
>> others along similiar lines, are in fact trolls, or just general banter,
>> that is not likely to upset anyone at all?
>
> I would say, as a statement of fact, that the above post, made by
> defendant #2, chris stevens, is yet more malicious and defamatory crap,
> all grist to the mill come the 27th of next month.
>
> How many days away is that now.
>
> Having just re-watched "Enron - the smartest guys in the room" I am
> strongly reminded of two things.
>
> a/ The Enron big wig was a body double for the bad guy from captain
> scarlet
>
> b/ you lot (the defendants) have more than a passing amount in common
> with the enron executives, who thought they could keep on telling ever
> larger lies and nobody would ever bring them to book for it.


You are obviously aware of the fact that I have provided Exeter court with
the "missing" files, and will also be insisting on a proper investigation
into the reasons they would have nver made it to the CMC on the 27th had I
not sent them registered post...................

The posts of yours I mentioned earlier are already with the court, and again
have been sent registered so there is no chance of them being
lost...............

Interesting that there are all these missing papers to think about, and that
you have a "friend" working at Exeter court. I do really think the Area
Directors Office needs to knwo about that dont you?

Remember my earlier mention of "conspiracy to pervert the course of
justice"? Wonder if you and your " friend" are aware of what a serious
matter that is?

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In message <34qa92t89eb4o1qoie9ojeo1keatr08lsj [at] 4ax.com>, Rupert
<rupert [at] virginia.co.uk> writes
>Grand Lounge Lizard of the Ancient Order of Crumpet Hunters.
And as the Austin Lounge Lizards sang:
We are in control.

--
Timothy