I have some mains connected garden lanterns connected to an electric timer
to switch them on and off.

as the time of nightfall changes through out the year, where could i find
some list of nightfall times; so i could just reset the timer at the
beginning of every month. thanks

"jww" <blue.star77 [at] REMOOVEvirgin.net> wrote in message
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>I have some mains connected garden lanterns connected to an electric timer
>to switch them on and off.
>
> as the time of nightfall changes through out the year, where could i find
> some list of nightfall times; so i could just reset the timer at the
> beginning of every month. thanks
>

The newspaper? or

http://www.britishinformation.com/sunrise-and-sunset-times/



Dave

"jww" <blue.star77 [at] REMOOVEvirgin.net> wrote in message
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> I have some mains connected garden lanterns connected to an electric
timer
> to switch them on and off.
>
> as the time of nightfall changes through out the year, where could i find
> some list of nightfall times; so i could just reset the timer at the
> beginning of every month. thanks

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather

If you go to the local 5 day forecast you can have loads of innocent
amusement reading works of speculative fiction, and also see a list of
sunrise and sunset times for each day.

HTH

Dave R

"David W.E. Roberts" <nospam [at] talk21.com> wrote in message
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>
> "jww" <blue.star77 [at] REMOOVEvirgin.net> wrote in message
> news:%Y8lg.32249$qD.3943 [at] newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
>> I have some mains connected garden lanterns connected to an electric
> timer
>> to switch them on and off.
>>
>> as the time of nightfall changes through out the year, where could i find
>> some list of nightfall times; so i could just reset the timer at the
>> beginning of every month. thanks
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather
>
> If you go to the local 5 day forecast you can have loads of innocent
> amusement reading works of speculative fiction, and also see a list of
> sunrise and sunset times for each day.
> HTH
Dave R

thanks to all. i did not want to reset the timer each day. is there some
year long list so i could write down a time for say the beginning of each
month and then reset it monthly. also is it dark at the given sunset time
or should my lights go on for say an hour after sunset? since i really only
want them to come on when its quite dark. thanks for any further advice.
>
>

> thanks to all. i did not want to reset the timer each day. is there
> some
> year long list so i could write down a time for say the beginning of each
> month and then reset it monthly. also is it dark at the given sunset time
> or should my lights go on for say an hour after sunset? since i really
> only want them to come on when its quite dark. thanks for any further
> advice.
>>
>>
>
>

http://www.schoolsobservatory.org.uk/uninow/sunrs/sunrs_yr.h tm

Dave

"jww" <blue.star77 [at] REMOOVEvirgin.net> wrote in message
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>I have some mains connected garden lanterns connected to an electric timer
>to switch them on and off.
>
> as the time of nightfall changes through out the year, where could i find
> some list of nightfall times; so i could just reset the timer at the
> beginning of every month. thanks
>
Could you not just use a dawn to dusk sensor.
See last item on this link
http://www.buy-electrical.co.uk/index.html?lang=en-uk&ta rget=d25.html

"Rupert (W.Yorkshire)" <reply [at] newsgroups.com> wrote in message
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> "jww" <blue.star77 [at] REMOOVEvirgin.net> wrote in message
> news:%Y8lg.32249$qD.3943 [at] newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
>>I have some mains connected garden lanterns connected to an electric
>>timer to switch them on and off.
>>
>> as the time of nightfall changes through out the year, where could i find
>> some list of nightfall times; so i could just reset the timer at the
>> beginning of every month. thanks
>>
> Could you not just use a dawn to dusk sensor.
> See last item on this link
> http://www.buy-electrical.co.uk/index.html?lang=en-uk&ta rget=d25.html

but it would have to be set up outside. (extra bother). i did have one
years ago it just never seemed very sensitive or accurate somehow.
>
>

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On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:12:23 GMT, "jww" <blue.star77 [at] REMOOVEvirgin.net>
wrote:

>thanks to all. i did not want to reset the timer each day. is there some
>year long list so i could write down a time for say the beginning of each
>month and then reset it monthly. also is it dark at the given sunset time
>or should my lights go on for say an hour after sunset? since i really only
>want them to come on when its quite dark. thanks for any further advice.

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/astronomy.html?n=136&a mp;obj=sun&month=6&year 06&day=1

Set it for your town / city.

--
Paul C

"Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.john [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> from "jww" <blue.star77 [at] REMOOVEvirgin.net> contains these words:
>
>> thanks to all. i did not want to reset the timer each day. is there
>> some
>> year long list so i could write down a time for say the beginning of each
>> month and then reset it monthly.
>
> Each month, look at the time given that day in your newspaper. and
> reset the timer accordingly. The time changes by a few minutes every day
> but it will be near enough for the rest of that month.
>
> also is it dark at the given sunset time
>> or should my lights go on for say an hour after sunset? since i
>> really only
>> want them to come on when its quite dark.
>
> Have you never watched a sunset ?
>
> Janet.

Janet you wag !

"Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.john [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> The message <449540a5 [at] 212.67.96.135>
> from "Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\)" <reply [at] newsgroups.com> contains these words:
>
>
>> Could you not just use a dawn to dusk sensor.
>
> That would waste energy and pollute his neighbourhood night sky all
> night long, instead of just the evening.
> :-((
>
> Janet.
>
> --
> Isle of Arran Open Gardens weekend 21,22,23 July 2006
> 5 UKP three-day adult ticket (funds go to island charities) buys entry
> to 26 private gardens

I had assumed that he would want to use it in conjunction with a timeclock
which sets the constant off time!

On 18/6/06 19:34, in article 44959ca5 [at] 212.67.96.135, "Rupert (W.Yorkshire)"
<reply [at] newsgroups.com> wrote:

>
> "Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.john [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3130303039303239449561FA47 [at] zetnet.co.uk...
>> The message <449540a5 [at] 212.67.96.135>
>> from "Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\)" <reply [at] newsgroups.com> contains these words:
>>
>>
>>> Could you not just use a dawn to dusk sensor.
>>
>> That would waste energy and pollute his neighbourhood night sky all
>> night long, instead of just the evening.
>> :-((
>>
>> Janet.
>>
>> --
>> Isle of Arran Open Gardens weekend 21,22,23 July 2006
>> 5 UKP three-day adult ticket (funds go to island charities) buys entry
>> to 26 private gardens
>
> I had assumed that he would want to use it in conjunction with a timeclock
> which sets the constant off time!
>
>
>
I had assumed he might have the nous to figure out when it gets dark! Good
grief. Troll paté, anyone?
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(email address on website)

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"Sacha" <sacha [at] privacy.net> wrote in message
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> On 18/6/06 19:34, in article 44959ca5 [at] 212.67.96.135, "Rupert
> (W.Yorkshire)"
> <reply [at] newsgroups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.john [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:3130303039303239449561FA47 [at] zetnet.co.uk...
>>> The message <449540a5 [at] 212.67.96.135>
>>> from "Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\)" <reply [at] newsgroups.com> contains these
>>> words:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Could you not just use a dawn to dusk sensor.
>>>
>>> That would waste energy and pollute his neighbourhood night sky all
>>> night long, instead of just the evening.
>>> :-((
>>>
>>> Janet.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Isle of Arran Open Gardens weekend 21,22,23 July 2006
>>> 5 UKP three-day adult ticket (funds go to island charities) buys entry
>>> to 26 private gardens
>>
>> I had assumed that he would want to use it in conjunction with a
>> timeclock
>> which sets the constant off time!
>>
>>
>>
> I had assumed he might have the nous to figure out when it gets dark!
> Good
> grief. Troll paté, anyone?
> --
> Sacha
> www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
> South Devon
> (email address on website)
>

I assumed he wanted to avoid the hassle of having to turn on the lights when
it gets dark, particularly when away from home:-)

"Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.john [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> from "Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\)" <reply [at] newsgroups.com> contains these words:
>
>
>> "Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.john [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:3130303039303239449561FA47 [at] zetnet.co.uk...
>> > The message <449540a5 [at] 212.67.96.135>
>> > from "Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\)" <reply [at] newsgroups.com> contains these
>> > words:
>> >
>> >
>> >> Could you not just use a dawn to dusk sensor.
>> >
>> > That would waste energy and pollute his neighbourhood night sky all
>> > night long, instead of just the evening.
>> > :-((
>
>
>> I had assumed that he would want to use it in conjunction with a
>> timeclock
>> which sets the constant off time!
>
> You misled me with the notion of a "dawn" sensor !
>
> Janet !
>
> --
> Isle of Arran Open Gardens weekend 21,22,23 July 2006
> 5 UKP three-day adult ticket (funds go to island charities) buys entry
> to 26 private gardens

That's a damned lie -you confused yourself with the notion of a dawn
sensor:-)
Any road he could always use the dawn trigger as a marker for the
calculation of when next to turn on the lights.
Any volunteer nerds to write the programme?