Tomatoes

One of my tomato plants, and a couple of leaves of another one, located
3 plants away from the first one, are showing rolled up leaves. The
first plant looks nearly wilted.
I checked my Hessayon veg expert, and it states that if there is
neither parasite nor disease present - none of which I saw on the
leaves - it is nothing much to worry about while the leaves remain dark
green - which they do. It suggests that it could be down to big temp
differences between night and day, and lately we've had both very hot
days, and most recently very chilly ones (10 degrees when I left home
this morning).
So, maybe this is it - but I am concerned nonetheless - anything I
should do? I can obviously not warm them up much when they are grown
in grow bags out in the open.

Broad beans

It is my first ever time planting those, and even my Dad never did, so
I have absolutely no idea of what to expect.
The plants are extremely healthy and vigorous looking, about 40 to 50
cm tall, full of white flowers with a black dot. I have noticed that
the flowers which come to the end of their lives are turning what to me
looks like a worrying looking sutty black. Yet again, I checked my
trusty Hessayon and its botanic hypochondria-inducing list of ailments
for peas and beans - nothing about blackening flowers.
Is that normal, and am I worrying over nothing?

TIA

Cat(h)

"Cat(h)" <cathy_ie [at] yahoo.com> writes
>
>Broad beans
>
>It is my first ever time planting those, and even my Dad never did, so
>I have absolutely no idea of what to expect.
>The plants are extremely healthy and vigorous looking, about 40 to 50
>cm tall, full of white flowers with a black dot.

Yes, that's a normal broad bean flower.

> I have noticed that
>the flowers which come to the end of their lives are turning what to me
>looks like a worrying looking sutty black. Yet again, I checked my
>trusty Hessayon and its botanic hypochondria-inducing list of ailments
>for peas and beans - nothing about blackening flowers.
>Is that normal, and am I worrying over nothing?

It's normal. They go black as they die,
--
Kay

K wrote:
> "Cat(h)" <cathy_ie [at] yahoo.com> writes
> >
> >Broad beans
> >
> >It is my first ever time planting those, and even my Dad never did, so
> >I have absolutely no idea of what to expect.
> >The plants are extremely healthy and vigorous looking, about 40 to 50
> >cm tall, full of white flowers with a black dot.
>
> Yes, that's a normal broad bean flower.

The black dot was not worrying me - I thought the flowers looked quite
pretty with their black polka dot.
>
> > I have noticed that
> >the flowers which come to the end of their lives are turning what to me
> >looks like a worrying looking sutty black. Yet again, I checked my
> >trusty Hessayon and its botanic hypochondria-inducing list of ailments
> >for peas and beans - nothing about blackening flowers.
> >Is that normal, and am I worrying over nothing?
>
> It's normal. They go black as they die,

Cool! thanks, I'm positively impatient to harvest my first home grown
broadbeans. they have to be one of the very best veggies to eat!
Cat(h)

On 27 Jun 2006 04:08:12 -0700, "Cat(h)" <cathy_ie [at] yahoo.com> wrote
this (or the missive included this):

>Tomatoes
>
>One of my tomato plants, and a couple of leaves of another one, located
>3 plants away from the first one, are showing rolled up leaves. The
>first plant looks nearly wilted.
>I checked my Hessayon veg expert, and it states that if there is
>neither parasite nor disease present - none of which I saw on the
>leaves - it is nothing much to worry about while the leaves remain dark
>green - which they do.

Could be temporary, due to overfeeding. I had this on most of my
plants in a greenhouse a few years back and they came to no harm


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> It's normal. They go black as they die,

Cool! thanks, I'm positively impatient to harvest my first home grown
broadbeans. they have to be one of the very best veggies to eat!
Cat(h)

You can say that again! They are my favourite of all

Robert wrote:
> > It's normal. They go black as they die,
>
> Cool! thanks, I'm positively impatient to harvest my first home grown
> broadbeans. they have to be one of the very best veggies to eat!
> Cat(h)
>
> You can say that again! They are my favourite of all

They are one of my many favourites: asparagus, avocados, salsify,
tomatoes, courgettes, aubergines, lettuces of all ilk (except the
dreaded iceberg of McDonald's burger fame), runner beans, peas,
carrots, cabbage, radishes, broccoli, peppers.... The only veg I
dislike is red beetroot... probably childhood canteen traumas...
I can't quite understand how people actually struggle to consumer the
"5 or more a day". I reckon I'm closer to 11...

Cat(h) (enthusiastic veggievore, but not vegetarian)

Ron Clark wrote:
> On 27 Jun 2006 04:08:12 -0700, "Cat(h)" <cathy_ie [at] yahoo.com> wrote
> this (or the missive included this):
>
> >Tomatoes
> >
> >One of my tomato plants, and a couple of leaves of another one, located
> >3 plants away from the first one, are showing rolled up leaves. The
> >first plant looks nearly wilted.
> >I checked my Hessayon veg expert, and it states that if there is
> >neither parasite nor disease present - none of which I saw on the
> >leaves - it is nothing much to worry about while the leaves remain dark
> >green - which they do.
>
> Could be temporary, due to overfeeding. I had this on most of my
> plants in a greenhouse a few years back and they came to no harm
>
>

OK. I'll monitor the situation...

Cat(h)

"Cat(h)" <cathy_ie [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1151409765.220163.288550 [at] b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> K wrote:
> > "Cat(h)" <cathy_ie [at] yahoo.com> writes
> > >
> > >Broad beans
> > >
> > >It is my first ever time planting those, and even my Dad never did, so
> > >I have absolutely no idea of what to expect.
> > >The plants are extremely healthy and vigorous looking, about 40 to 50
> > >cm tall, full of white flowers with a black dot.
> >
> > Yes, that's a normal broad bean flower.
>
> The black dot was not worrying me - I thought the flowers looked quite
> pretty with their black polka dot.
> >
> > > I have noticed that
> > >the flowers which come to the end of their lives are turning what to me
> > >looks like a worrying looking sutty black. Yet again, I checked my
> > >trusty Hessayon and its botanic hypochondria-inducing list of ailments
> > >for peas and beans - nothing about blackening flowers.
> > >Is that normal, and am I worrying over nothing?
> >
> > It's normal. They go black as they die,
>
> Cool! thanks, I'm positively impatient to harvest my first home grown
> broadbeans. they have to be one of the very best veggies to eat!
> Cat(h)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Just as tasty are the juvenile pods cooked whole and dipped in a
hollandaise type sauce. Hot or cold. Picking young like this never seems to
reduce the crop. Small finger size seems best.
Best Wishes Brian.
>

"Cat(h)" <cathy_ie [at] yahoo.com> writes
>
>Robert wrote:
>> > It's normal. They go black as they die,
>>
>> Cool! thanks, I'm positively impatient to harvest my first home grown
>> broadbeans. they have to be one of the very best veggies to eat!
>> Cat(h)
>>
>> You can say that again! They are my favourite of all
>
>They are one of my many favourites: asparagus, avocados, salsify,
>tomatoes, courgettes, aubergines, lettuces of all ilk (except the
>dreaded iceberg of McDonald's burger fame), runner beans, peas,
>carrots, cabbage, radishes, broccoli, peppers.... The only veg I
>dislike is red beetroot... probably childhood canteen traumas...
>I can't quite understand how people actually struggle to consumer the
>"5 or more a day". I reckon I'm closer to 11...
>
I read one article which suggested the target should be 9 a day, but the
DoH considered the average british diet and decided to go for the
ambitious instead of the totally unachievable.
--
Kay

"Cat(h)" <cathy_ie [at] yahoo.com> writes
>
>> >
>
>Cool! thanks, I'm positively impatient to harvest my first home grown
>broadbeans. they have to be one of the very best veggies to eat!
>Cat(h)
>
Don't pick them too late - they are much nicer young. The little bit
holding the bean into the pod should be green rather than black for best
taste.

The pods start by sticking upwards, but hang down when ready to harvest.
--
Kay

K wrote:
> "Cat(h)" <cathy_ie [at] yahoo.com> writes
> >
> >> >
> >
> >Cool! thanks, I'm positively impatient to harvest my first home grown
> >broadbeans. they have to be one of the very best veggies to eat!
> >Cat(h)
> >
> Don't pick them too late - they are much nicer young. The little bit
> holding the bean into the pod should be green rather than black for best
> taste.
>
> The pods start by sticking upwards, but hang down when ready to harvest.
> --
> Kay

Thank you Kay (and Brian also) for the tips. You make me hungry...

Cat(h)