Is anyone else growing this? I can recommend it heartily. We have two in
the garden - one is scrambling through a Grevillea and a Cordyline and the
other on the front of the house is hitching a ride on a Chaenomeles and
onward and upward! I don't think it's seen very often but it's a very
attractive small-flowered climber.
Here's a pic of one growing in Shropshire: http://tinyurl.com/gqcey
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(email address on website)

"Sacha" <sacha [at] privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Is anyone else growing this? I can recommend it heartily. We have two in
> the garden - one is scrambling through a Grevillea and a Cordyline and the
> other on the front of the house is hitching a ride on a Chaenomeles and
> onward and upward! I don't think it's seen very often but it's a very
> attractive small-flowered climber.
> Here's a pic of one growing in Shropshire: http://tinyurl.com/gqcey
> --
> Sacha
> www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
> South Devon
> (email address on website)

Yes! its a firm favourite, especially as it does so well in the shade.

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)

On 18/7/06 08:31, in article 44bc8c04_2 [at] mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com,
"Charlie Pridham" <charlie.pridham [at] lineone.net> wrote:

>
> "Sacha" <sacha [at] privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:C0E1C762.344AF%sacha [at] privacy.net...
>> Is anyone else growing this? I can recommend it heartily. We have two in
>> the garden - one is scrambling through a Grevillea and a Cordyline and the
>> other on the front of the house is hitching a ride on a Chaenomeles and
>> onward and upward! I don't think it's seen very often but it's a very
>> attractive small-flowered climber.
>> Here's a pic of one growing in Shropshire: http://tinyurl.com/gqcey
>> --

>
> Yes! its a firm favourite, especially as it does so well in the shade.

It seems pretty good-tempered altogether but I wonder why it's not seen
more. It's strange how some things are grown absolutely everywhere and
others, such as this, are comparative rarities.
BTW, Charlie, that white Cobea PH gave you and us, is now roaring up one of
our trees but no signs of flowering yet. It must be well over 25' high but
we think it's too shady so we're going to try a new one in a different spot
next year. But the vigour of the growth it truly astounding.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(email address on website)

"Sacha" <sacha [at] privacy.net> wrote in message
news:C0E24CE7.344B8%sacha [at] privacy.net...
> On 18/7/06 08:31, in article 44bc8c04_2 [at] mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com,
> "Charlie Pridham" <charlie.pridham [at] lineone.net> wrote:
>
> >
> > "Sacha" <sacha [at] privacy.net> wrote in message
> > news:C0E1C762.344AF%sacha [at] privacy.net...
> >> Is anyone else growing this? I can recommend it heartily. We have two
in
> >> the garden - one is scrambling through a Grevillea and a Cordyline and
the
> >> other on the front of the house is hitching a ride on a Chaenomeles and
> >> onward and upward! I don't think it's seen very often but it's a very
> >> attractive small-flowered climber.
> >> Here's a pic of one growing in Shropshire: http://tinyurl.com/gqcey
> >> --
>
> >
> > Yes! its a firm favourite, especially as it does so well in the shade.
>
> It seems pretty good-tempered altogether but I wonder why it's not seen
> more. It's strange how some things are grown absolutely everywhere and
> others, such as this, are comparative rarities.
> BTW, Charlie, that white Cobea PH gave you and us, is now roaring up one
of
> our trees but no signs of flowering yet. It must be well over 25' high
but
> we think it's too shady so we're going to try a new one in a different
spot
> next year. But the vigour of the growth it truly astounding.
>
> --
> Sacha
> www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
> South Devon
> (email address on website)
>
I was about to try one out side, so I will aim for sunny (not that that is
hard in this garden!) but my original plant is not flowering yet in the
conservatory and as I met her on Sunday at the Tavistock NCCPG sale I can
tell hers is not yet in flower either. I would have never considered Cobaea
for outdoor planting if it had not been for PH but it seems remarkably
tough.

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)

On 18/7/06 12:08, in article 44bcbfec_3 [at] mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com,
"Charlie Pridham" <charlie.pridham [at] lineone.net> wrote:

>
> "Sacha" <sacha [at] privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:C0E24CE7.344B8%sacha [at] privacy.net...
<snip>
>> BTW, Charlie, that white Cobea PH gave you and us, is now roaring up one
> of
>> our trees but no signs of flowering yet. It must be well over 25' high
> but
>> we think it's too shady so we're going to try a new one in a different
> spot
>> next year. But the vigour of the growth it truly astounding.
>>
>>
> I was about to try one out side, so I will aim for sunny (not that that is
> hard in this garden!) but my original plant is not flowering yet in the
> conservatory and as I met her on Sunday at the Tavistock NCCPG sale I can
> tell hers is not yet in flower either. I would have never considered Cobaea
> for outdoor planting if it had not been for PH but it seems remarkably
> tough.

Well, it goes mad in parts of France and Italy so if it's ever going to
flower in UK, this has to be the year for it! Glad to hear ours isn't
lagging behind, though.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(email address on website)

Charlie Pridham wrote in reply to Sacha:

>> Is anyone else growing this? I can recommend it heartily. We have two in
>> the garden - one is scrambling through a Grevillea and a Cordyline and the
>> other on the front of the house is hitching a ride on a Chaenomeles....

> Yes! its a firm favourite, especially as it does so well in the shade.

Hmmm. Wish I'd thought of it earlier this year, it could explore the
nether regions of Jasminum polyanthum and provide additional colour
between flushes. It is far too rarely planted and the colour is bright
enough to make the flowers appear to sparkle when caught by the sun at
a low angle. John Treasure had it growing through various plants at
Burford House and I remember mentioning that I thought it did a better
job than some of the more obscure Clematis he'd planted. I don't think
he appreciated that!

On 19/7/06 04:49, in article
1153280943.452321.90960 [at] h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com, "DavePoole Torquay"
<daverpoole [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

> Charlie Pridham wrote in reply to Sacha:
>
>>> Is anyone else growing this? I can recommend it heartily. We have two in
>>> the garden - one is scrambling through a Grevillea and a Cordyline and the
>>> other on the front of the house is hitching a ride on a Chaenomeles....
>
>> Yes! its a firm favourite, especially as it does so well in the shade.
>
> Hmmm. Wish I'd thought of it earlier this year, it could explore the
> nether regions of Jasminum polyanthum and provide additional colour
> between flushes. It is far too rarely planted and the colour is bright
> enough to make the flowers appear to sparkle when caught by the sun at
> a low angle. John Treasure had it growing through various plants at
> Burford House and I remember mentioning that I thought it did a better
> job than some of the more obscure Clematis he'd planted. I don't think
> he appreciated that!
>
I keep thinking we got ours from you but Ray says not. Didn't you have it
scrambling over the gate the back of your garden?
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(email address on website)

Sacha wrote:

> I keep thinking we got ours from you but Ray says not. Didn't you have it
> scrambling over the gate the back of your garden?

No, it's something I'd forgotten about for years - the last time I grew
it must be well over 25 years ago if not longer. At one time, I did
have a lot of Corydalis lutea running amok and it was firmly
established by the gate, but at the base and not over it ;-) I think
we remarked upon it when you were here and agreed that it was a very
acceptable weed. Then it was the red passion flower to one side (as is
now, but with a wrist-thick trunk), that magnificently huge clambering
Diascia patens (which I did give to you) to the other, partnered for a
while with Plumbago auriculata.

Tropaeolum tuberosum and a 7 foot high Helichrysum petiolatum
'Moonlight' were also crammed in, but I got fed up of both and after
deciding that the tubers of the Tropaeolum weren't very good for eating
no matter how they were cooked, gave the remainder away. I think
Cormaic had some. The Corydalis disappeared quite inexplicably and
there's not a stray seedling to be seen nowadays. Sadly, the Diascia
finally gave up in 2001 - at 7 seven years old it was a very good age
for a Diascia. The Plumbago took over temporarily, but although it is
very hardy here it doesn't flower well now. I think the lavish
applications of fertiliser and compost, which keep the bananas happy
cause it to grow furiously at the expense of flower. There's a
Strelitzia at its feet, which likes similar treatment to the bananas,
so Plumbago flowers are sacrificed.

Jasminum polyanthum has invaded with some force and taken full
advantage, forming a dense mass that I keep promising to reduce.
However, each time I approach secateurs in hand, I discover it is
smothered in flower buds and put operations off. It's been like that
for years, so maybe I'll just bung in a Dicentra to weave its way
through and provide some interest when the Jasmine is having a rare
off-moment.

While I think about it, the Solanum (wendlandii) is firmly nailed to
the wall and has flower heads that carry on opening their buds for well
over 6 weeks. There are more on the way and this intense heat has
really helped it to settle well. Magnificent thing and I've got it
where it can't grab me or anyone else. I'm extremely pleased with it
and may even do the unthinkable (for me) by affording some protection
this coming winter.

The message <C0E24CE7.344B8%sacha [at] privacy.net>
from Sacha <sacha [at] privacy.net> contains these words:

> On 18/7/06 08:31, in article 44bc8c04_2 [at] mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com,
> "Charlie Pridham" <charlie.pridham [at] lineone.net> wrote:

> >
> > "Sacha" <sacha [at] privacy.net> wrote in message
> > news:C0E1C762.344AF%sacha [at] privacy.net...
> >> Is anyone else growing this? I can recommend it heartily. We have
> >> two in
> >> the garden - one is scrambling through a Grevillea and a Cordyline
> >> and the
> >> other on the front of the house is hitching a ride on a Chaenomeles and
> >> onward and upward! I don't think it's seen very often but it's a very
> >> attractive small-flowered climber.
> >> Here's a pic of one growing in Shropshire: http://tinyurl.com/gqcey
> >> --

> >
> > Yes! its a firm favourite, especially as it does so well in the shade.

> It seems pretty good-tempered altogether but I wonder why it's not seen
> more. It's strange how some things are grown absolutely everywhere and
> others, such as this, are comparative rarities.

I've grown it from seed and lost it. I had it still in pots in the
greenhouse but it died out sometime in its second year. Neglect
probably. I'd assumed it was a short-lived perennial but perhaps it
needed cooler conditions.
I seem to think mine wasn't such a clear yellow either. Perhaps it can
be quite variable. I'll have to give it a second try.

Janet G

"Janet Galpin" <decoy.farm [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> The message <C0E24CE7.344B8%sacha [at] privacy.net>
> from Sacha <sacha [at] privacy.net> contains these words:
>
> > On 18/7/06 08:31, in article
44bc8c04_2 [at] mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com,
> > "Charlie Pridham" <charlie.pridham [at] lineone.net> wrote:
>
> > >
> > > "Sacha" <sacha [at] privacy.net> wrote in message
> > > news:C0E1C762.344AF%sacha [at] privacy.net...
> > >> Is anyone else growing this? I can recommend it heartily. We have
> > >> two in
> > >> the garden - one is scrambling through a Grevillea and a Cordyline
> > >> and the
> > >> other on the front of the house is hitching a ride on a Chaenomeles
and
> > >> onward and upward! I don't think it's seen very often but it's a
very
> > >> attractive small-flowered climber.
> > >> Here's a pic of one growing in Shropshire: http://tinyurl.com/gqcey
> > >> --
>
> > >
> > > Yes! its a firm favourite, especially as it does so well in the shade.
>
> > It seems pretty good-tempered altogether but I wonder why it's not seen
> > more. It's strange how some things are grown absolutely everywhere and
> > others, such as this, are comparative rarities.
>
> I've grown it from seed and lost it. I had it still in pots in the
> greenhouse but it died out sometime in its second year. Neglect
> probably. I'd assumed it was a short-lived perennial but perhaps it
> needed cooler conditions.
> I seem to think mine wasn't such a clear yellow either. Perhaps it can
> be quite variable. I'll have to give it a second try.
>
> Janet G

The naming of these yellow dicentra's is very muddled and some species are
little more than annuals but the plant normally found as D. scandens is a
good perennial with a huge tap root, I sometimes loose them in pots too but
once out (or pot rooted down) they seem indestructible
--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)

On 20/7/06 07:59, in article 44bf4c53$1_1 [at] mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com,
"Charlie Pridham" <charlie.pridham [at] lineone.net> wrote:

>
> "Janet Galpin" <decoy.farm [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
<snip>
>> I've grown it from seed and lost it. I had it still in pots in the
>> greenhouse but it died out sometime in its second year. Neglect
>> probably. I'd assumed it was a short-lived perennial but perhaps it
>> needed cooler conditions.
>> I seem to think mine wasn't such a clear yellow either. Perhaps it can
>> be quite variable. I'll have to give it a second try.
>>
>> Janet G
>
> The naming of these yellow dicentra's is very muddled and some species are
> little more than annuals but the plant normally found as D. scandens is a
> good perennial with a huge tap root, I sometimes loose them in pots too but
> once out (or pot rooted down) they seem indestructible

I think ours has been in the garden for three years or so now. It survived
last winter so it must be pretty tough. I would say ours is a good clear
yellow but possibly with a very slight amber tinge to the top of the flower.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(email address on website)

"Sacha" <sacha [at] privacy.net> wrote in message
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> On 20/7/06 07:59, in article
44bf4c53$1_1 [at] mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com,
> "Charlie Pridham" <charlie.pridham [at] lineone.net> wrote:
>
> >
> > "Janet Galpin" <decoy.farm [at] zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> <snip>
> >> I've grown it from seed and lost it. I had it still in pots in the
> >> greenhouse but it died out sometime in its second year. Neglect
> >> probably. I'd assumed it was a short-lived perennial but perhaps it
> >> needed cooler conditions.
> >> I seem to think mine wasn't such a clear yellow either. Perhaps it can
> >> be quite variable. I'll have to give it a second try.
> >>
> >> Janet G
> >
> > The naming of these yellow dicentra's is very muddled and some species
are
> > little more than annuals but the plant normally found as D. scandens is
a
> > good perennial with a huge tap root, I sometimes loose them in pots too
but
> > once out (or pot rooted down) they seem indestructible
>
> I think ours has been in the garden for three years or so now. It
survived
> last winter so it must be pretty tough. I would say ours is a good clear
> yellow but possibly with a very slight amber tinge to the top of the
flower.
> --
> Sacha
> www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
> South Devon
> (email address on website)

Most of the annual sorts have bigger seed pods. D. scandens pods are little
different to leaves and quite difficult to spot (I do them from cuttings as
I could never find the seed in time!) seed however is at least easy once you
can find it.
There are some good plants at Rosemoor in front of the visitor centre coming
up through the shrubs bit like the various clematis.

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)