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#1: Bunching onion seeds that I shoulda planted in early March

Posted on 2006-06-07 03:15:14 by zxcvbob

Should I plant them now, or wait until fall, or maybe next year (I know
they'll only have 50% germination at best next year.)

I'm in Minnesota, land of the almost midnight sun, and I'm not sure what
the extremely long days will do to a bunching onion seedling. The
variety is Crimson Forest.

Thanks,
Bob

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#2: Re: Bunching onion seeds that I shoulda planted in early March

Posted on 2006-06-07 12:31:58 by kiewicz

zxcvbob said:
>
>Should I plant them now, or wait until fall, or maybe next year (I know
>they'll only have 50% germination at best next year.)
>
>I'm in Minnesota, land of the almost midnight sun, and I'm not sure what
>the extremely long days will do to a bunching onion seedling. The
>variety is Crimson Forest.

I'd go for it. See what happens. I don't think 'Welsh'/bunching onions
(A. fistulosum) bulb up much in any case, long days or short. Or, if
you live in a mild winter area, wait until later this summer and start
them for winter harvest.

(A fresh packet next year would add less than a dollar to a seed order from
Pinetree Garden Seeds.)

--
Pat in Plymouth MI ('someplace.net' is comcast)

Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
(attributed to Don Marti)

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#3: Re: Bunching onion seeds that I shoulda planted in early March

Posted on 2006-06-07 17:55:00 by ladasky

zxcvbob wrote:
> Should I plant them now, or wait until fall, or maybe next year (I know
> they'll only have 50% germination at best next year.)
>
> I'm in Minnesota, land of the almost midnight sun, and I'm not sure what
> the extremely long days will do to a bunching onion seedling. The
> variety is Crimson Forest.
>
> Thanks,
> Bob

I'm in California, and I am holding on to my bunching onion seeds until
the fall. Day length is not my reason for keeping the seeds --
temperature is.

My vegetable garden book lists minimum, optimal, and maximum soil
temperatures for the germination of several types of seeds. Onions
prefer lower temperatures. Minimum temperature =3D 32=B0F; optimal =3D
80=B0F; maximum =3D 95=B0F.

The book cautions that soil temperatures can exceed air temperatures by
as much as 20 degrees. I wish I had read that part before wasting
seeds and water. Air temperatures in my area haven't gone above 85=B0
yet this season, but I'm sure that the soil has gotten significantly
hotter than that.

I tried getting a second round of carrots, coriander, and chicory
started three weeks ago. I have ONE new coriander seedling. The
carrot seeds have the same maximum temperature as the onion seeds.

At the same time, I started tomato and cantaloupe seeds. They have
germinated readily.

Hope that helps!

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#4: Re: Bunching onion seeds that I shoulda planted in early March

Posted on 2006-06-07 18:29:02 by zxcvbob

John Ladasky wrote:
> zxcvbob wrote:
>> Should I plant them now, or wait until fall, or maybe next year (I know
>> they'll only have 50% germination at best next year.)
>>
>> I'm in Minnesota, land of the almost midnight sun, and I'm not sure what
>> the extremely long days will do to a bunching onion seedling. The
>> variety is Crimson Forest.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bob
>
> I'm in California, and I am holding on to my bunching onion seeds until
> the fall. Day length is not my reason for keeping the seeds --
> temperature is.
>
> My vegetable garden book lists minimum, optimal, and maximum soil
> temperatures for the germination of several types of seeds. Onions
> prefer lower temperatures. Minimum temperature = 32°F; optimal =
> 80°F; maximum = 95°F.
>
> The book cautions that soil temperatures can exceed air temperatures by
> as much as 20 degrees. I wish I had read that part before wasting
> seeds and water. Air temperatures in my area haven't gone above 85°
> yet this season, but I'm sure that the soil has gotten significantly
> hotter than that.



Thanks. I just planted the seeds this morning. When I get home I'll
shade them for about a week so they don't get too hot.

Bob

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