#1: Leaf shreaders for home owners
Posted on 2006-06-07 21:41:01 by danny
Any reccomendations on Leaf shreaders for home owners?
Thanks
Dan
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#2: Re: Leaf shreaders for home owners
Posted on 2006-06-08 00:33:04 by Srgnt Billko
"Danny" <dannol@si.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Any reccomendations on Leaf shreaders for home owners?
> Thanks
> Dan
Yeah - a waste of time - lots of work for very little benefit and time
wasted - a waste of money. Just use your mower (with bagger if you have
one)
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#3: Re: Leaf shreaders for home owners
Posted on 2006-06-08 13:20:50 by kiewicz
Danny said:
>
>Any reccomendations on Leaf shreaders for home owners?
Bought ours from Sears. Shreds finer and faster than using a lawn
mower. Far more practical for a garden fanatic.
http://www.yardener.com/ElectricLeafShredderbyCraftsman.html
We shred large amounts of leaves each fall, for use in mulching and
composting the next year. We've got a B&D leaf vacuum to pick up
the leaves and blow them into the Sears shredder. The Sears shredder
sits on top of a garbage can lined with extra-heavy-duty contractor
cleanup bags and the finely shredded leaves get compressed as we
go along. Close off the bags with a nylon tie-wrap and store them
upside-down.
We bring in 70+ bags of leaves from around the neighborhood, plus what
falls in our own and next door neighbor's yard. The shredded leaves
(mixed with some cocoa shells) mulch the perennial beds and the vegetable
garden, plus serve as a major ingredient in batches of compost.
I also use the Sears shredder to chop up straw (for deep mulching potatoes
or patching the lawn) and shred newspaper (to add to the compost).
I really think someone is missing a business opportunity to sell bales of
dry, compressed shredded leaves to gardeners. They are far more useful
than baled peat. (I just recently saw big bags of dry, shredded straw
for sale, so maybe...)
--
Pat K. ('someplace.net' is comcast)
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
(attributed to Don Marti)
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#4: Re: Leaf shreaders for home owners
Posted on 2006-06-08 14:54:39 by Srgnt Billko
"Pat Kiewicz" <kiewicz@someplace.net.net> wrote in message
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> Danny said:
>>
>>Any reccomendations on Leaf shreaders for home owners?
>
> Bought ours from Sears. Shreds finer and faster than using a lawn
> mower. Far more practical for a garden fanatic.
>
> http://www.yardener.com/ElectricLeafShredderbyCraftsman.html
>
> We shred large amounts of leaves each fall, for use in mulching and
> composting the next year. We've got a B&D leaf vacuum to pick up
> the leaves and blow them into the Sears shredder. The Sears shredder
> sits on top of a garbage can lined with extra-heavy-duty contractor
> cleanup bags and the finely shredded leaves get compressed as we
> go along. Close off the bags with a nylon tie-wrap and store them
> upside-down.
>
> We bring in 70+ bags of leaves from around the neighborhood, plus what
> falls in our own and next door neighbor's yard. The shredded leaves
> (mixed with some cocoa shells) mulch the perennial beds and the vegetable
> garden, plus serve as a major ingredient in batches of compost.
>
> I also use the Sears shredder to chop up straw (for deep mulching potatoes
> or patching the lawn) and shred newspaper (to add to the compost).
>
> I really think someone is missing a business opportunity to sell bales of
> dry, compressed shredded leaves to gardeners. They are far more useful
> than baled peat. (I just recently saw big bags of dry, shredded straw
> for sale, so maybe...)
> --
> Pat K. ('someplace.net' is comcast)
>
That would be a small electric shredder. You must be spending many hours
breathing in that dust.
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#5: Re: Leaf shreaders for home owners
Posted on 2006-06-08 15:20:57 by I Love Lucy
"Danny" <dannol@si.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Any reccomendations on Leaf shreaders for home owners?
My new Toro self-propelled lawn mower mulches them. I love it. The
only thing I have to worry about is a wind vortex makes a large pile in
one spot, but we just bag those up.
I love mulching the grass, too, doesn't leave a mess and don't have to
bother with a bagger.
If and when I get into composting, there's plenty of other stuff I can
throw in that. Come to think of it, all the leaves I didn't shred for
years have worked themselves into some planting areas and made the soil
more arable, easier to work.
One year I raked and had 30 of those plastic bags full and wasn't near
done. So I gave up on it, just left them to feed the lawn the following
years. But they are a fire hazard so I'm glad to have this new mower.
I didn't want to bother with a mower where you had to change the blade.
>
> Thanks
>
> Dan
>
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#6: Re: Leaf shreaders for home owners
Posted on 2006-06-08 19:23:21 by luvsmengines
Yes, the small ones would make a good anchor for a pleasure yacht. Read
Sgt Bilko 's reply ( he is right). I have and old bagger mower that I
keep around Just to scavenge leaves from our neighbors yards. They will
be coarsely chopped when you empty the bags. I then spread them on the
ground. Run over them with my muching mower until I get them ground
then engaage the bagger and pick them up. I drive to my garden and
either mulch my plants or empty the bags in the row and till directly
into the soil. I have an MTD 5hp shedder that is five years old and has
about three hours on it. Just keeping it in case I need a new engine on
my tiller. As a fella told me one time about a piece of equip. "you
could'nt melt that thing down and pour it in my yard"
Danny wrote:
> Any reccomendations on Leaf shreaders for home owners?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dan
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#7: Re: Leaf shreaders for home owners
Posted on 2006-06-08 19:38:22 by Srgnt Billko
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> "Danny" <dannol@si.rr.com> wrote in message
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>> Any reccomendations on Leaf shreaders for home owners?
>
> My new Toro self-propelled lawn mower mulches them. I love it. The only
> thing I have to worry about is a wind vortex makes a large pile in one
> spot, but we just bag those up.
>
> I love mulching the grass, too, doesn't leave a mess and don't have to
> bother with a bagger.
>
> If and when I get into composting, there's plenty of other stuff I can
> throw in that.
The grass is good to include in the compost pile because it adds nitrogen
that helps the pile cook.
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#8: Re: Leaf shreaders for home owners
Posted on 2006-06-08 20:11:01 by I Love Lucy
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>> "Danny" <dannol@si.rr.com> wrote in message
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>>> Any reccomendations on Leaf shreaders for home owners?
>>
>> My new Toro self-propelled lawn mower mulches them. I love it. The
>> only thing I have to worry about is a wind vortex makes a large pile
>> in one spot, but we just bag those up.
>>
>> I love mulching the grass, too, doesn't leave a mess and don't have
>> to bother with a bagger.
>>
>> If and when I get into composting, there's plenty of other stuff I
>> can throw in that.
>
> The grass is good to include in the compost pile because it adds
> nitrogen that helps the pile cook.
I'm sure you're right about that. But I have nasty memories of when my
son was a teenager and started cutting the grass for me (bless him for
that). He dumped it in the back and I had a huge mess I finally cleaned
up. We didn't know about composting then.
Composting has its benefits but is just more work and I have plenty as
it is. I was going to give it a try in a nice wide plastic bucket type
thing I found with ropes for handles. I notice it has a crack in the
bottom which would let the water drain out. Maybe it would work anyway
or I could put duct tape on it. But it will have to be satisfied with
crabgrass and weeds and if I ever get rid of that, I don't know what
I'll put in there.
>
>
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#9: Re: Leaf shreaders for home owners
Posted on 2006-06-08 22:57:50 by Srgnt Billko
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>> "I Love Lucy" <nomore@monkey.biz> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Danny" <dannol@si.rr.com> wrote in message
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>>>> Any reccomendations on Leaf shreaders for home owners?
>>>
>>> My new Toro self-propelled lawn mower mulches them. I love it. The
>>> only thing I have to worry about is a wind vortex makes a large pile in
>>> one spot, but we just bag those up.
>>>
>>> I love mulching the grass, too, doesn't leave a mess and don't have to
>>> bother with a bagger.
>>>
>>> If and when I get into composting, there's plenty of other stuff I can
>>> throw in that.
>>
>> The grass is good to include in the compost pile because it adds nitrogen
>> that helps the pile cook.
>
> I'm sure you're right about that. But I have nasty memories of when my
> son was a teenager and started cutting the grass for me (bless him for
> that). He dumped it in the back and I had a huge mess I finally cleaned
> up. We didn't know about composting then.
>
> Composting has its benefits but is just more work and I have plenty as it
> is. I was going to give it a try in a nice wide plastic bucket type thing
> I found with ropes for handles. I notice it has a crack in the bottom
> which would let the water drain out. Maybe it would work anyway or I
> could put duct tape on it. But it will have to be satisfied with
> crabgrass and weeds and if I ever get rid of that, I don't know what I'll
> put in there.
I used to build bins and turn compost over like they all recommend but now I
just make very big piles and let is sit for over a year without doing much
to it. I do add garbage for a few months and pull out the largest weeds
that grow in it - otherwise it's pretty much on it's own. But it sounds
like you are a lot neater than I am so you might not be content with stuff
that doesn't bother me.
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#10: Re: Leaf shreaders for home owners
Posted on 2006-06-09 01:06:35 by Steveo
"Srgnt Billko" <frrt@blipl.net> wrote:
>> I used to build bins and turn compost over like they all recommend but
> now I just make very big piles and let is sit for over a year without
> doing much to it.
>
I make really big piles and pour five or six gallons of kerosine on them,
then my hound dog runs across the pile with a lit kerosene rag haning out
of his mouth. (it's fun to watch)
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#11: Re: Leaf shreaders for home owners
Posted on 2006-06-09 01:08:10 by I Love Lucy
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>>>> "Danny" <dannol@si.rr.com> wrote in message
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>>>>> Any reccomendations on Leaf shreaders for home owners?
>>>>
>>>> My new Toro self-propelled lawn mower mulches them. I love it.
>>>> The only thing I have to worry about is a wind vortex makes a large
>>>> pile in one spot, but we just bag those up.
>>>>
>>>> I love mulching the grass, too, doesn't leave a mess and don't have
>>>> to bother with a bagger.
>>>>
>>>> If and when I get into composting, there's plenty of other stuff I
>>>> can throw in that.
>>>
>>> The grass is good to include in the compost pile because it adds
>>> nitrogen that helps the pile cook.
>>
>> I'm sure you're right about that. But I have nasty memories of when
>> my son was a teenager and started cutting the grass for me (bless him
>> for that). He dumped it in the back and I had a huge mess I finally
>> cleaned up. We didn't know about composting then.
>>
>> Composting has its benefits but is just more work and I have plenty
>> as it is. I was going to give it a try in a nice wide plastic bucket
>> type thing I found with ropes for handles. I notice it has a crack
>> in the bottom which would let the water drain out. Maybe it would
>> work anyway or I could put duct tape on it. But it will have to be
>> satisfied with crabgrass and weeds and if I ever get rid of that, I
>> don't know what I'll put in there.
>
> I used to build bins and turn compost over like they all recommend but
> now I just make very big piles and let is sit for over a year without
> doing much to it. I do add garbage for a few months and pull out the
> largest weeds that grow in it - otherwise it's pretty much on it's
> own. But it sounds like you are a lot neater than I am so you might
> not be content with stuff that doesn't bother me.
I doubt I'm neater; I'm the scourge of the neighborhood. Everybody has
their lawns perfect, beautiful landscaping, houses with everything, if
not perfect, kept in good repair, and I struggle. I could handle a pile
somewhere so long as it doesn't get junk and broken glass mixed in like
that pile did. Setting that red plastic bucket out would be a eyesore
now that I am finally starting to get some flowers and beautification
projects going again. And if I didn't read usenet, I could burn my
garage down because I was going to get it going in a handy place where
the gas cans are (accessible in the mess in there) and I already knew
that it generated heat. I don't exactly see how, but maybe it could
with fumes. Stuff is packed in there, another mess, potter's wheel I
don't want to part with, son dumped his weights on me, the guy who did
my cement work wanted to store his lumber in there. I don't care until
unless it gets to be too long. I let the grandson of the people next
door store his motorcycle in there. He left a couple of huge containers
full of dirty oil. Finally I got fed up with that and sat out there and
funnelled it into pepsi bottles, and my son took it somewhere. It took
awhile to get all that oil in those bottles and capped. I think he took
it to the recycling center, but I wouldn't count on it. A guy wanted to
buy the bike from me, but no, I didn't have the papers, didn't know
where the kid was, didn't feel like calling his relatives.
One day after more than 5 years he shows up with trailer and wants his
motorcycle. Was I glad to get that out of there.
The reason I balk at any pile is I constantly have a pile of brush I
dump behind my tree from all the trees in my hard. I can cut it up with
a chainsaw, but almost cut my finger off once, so am not so quick to get
that out, still have to get rid of it. We can burn again on certain
days, but I have to stand out there for hours and watch it. So I want
until I can get somebody to haul it away cheap. Sometimes somebody goes
through the alley wanting to pick up a few bucks. $20 is about all I
want to pay. If I have them take it to the landfill, they charge
another $10 which would make it $30. If I chop it up small enough to
put in those bio bags, I have to buy a sticker which is $1.36? Can't
remember. Bah. I'm waiting for my granddaughter's boyfriend to come
pick it up and dump it behind his workplace where they burn, but he
hasn't showed up yet and I don't want him getting in trouble with his
employer over it. Last time it went to somebody's firepit. Doesn't
matter. As soon as it's gone, there will be another pile there. I'm
sick of piles :-).
Oh, and I've spent hours cutting the bigger pieces and tying it up in
regulation size bundles. Then they will take it for free.
Couple nice cherry logs I was saving for him because he said he wanted
them. Those I can burn in the fireplace.
My little rant for the day. You used to set it out by the garbage and
they just picked it up. But, no now we have to go hi tech. We have new
garbage cans that belong to the city and a truck with an arm will now
collect the trash. That will be a disaster in the winter because the
alley doesn't get plowed. Plus an extra $8 a month (what else is new?)
and you can only have one can, you still can put out old furniture,
wood, blah blah, but if you put out one extra bag of garbage, they
really sock it to you for that. It's maddening. I'm very neat about
the way I put out my garbage. Now I'll have to hose out a damn can
because it will get to stinking eventually.
>
>
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#12: Re: Leaf shreaders for home owners
Posted on 2006-06-09 01:14:03 by Steveo
"Srgnt Billko" <frrt@blipl.net> wrote:
>> That would be a small electric shredder. You must be spending many
>> hours
> breathing in that dust.
>
Sounds like the machine that washes my grease rags. I try to stay up-wind
of it if I can. (the dryer is worse)
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#13: Re: Leaf shreaders for home owners
Posted on 2006-06-09 02:54:18 by Srgnt Billko
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>>>>> "Danny" <dannol@si.rr.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>> Any reccomendations on Leaf shreaders for home owners?
>>>>>
>>>>> My new Toro self-propelled lawn mower mulches them. I love it. The
>>>>> only thing I have to worry about is a wind vortex makes a large pile
>>>>> in one spot, but we just bag those up.
>>>>>
>>>>> I love mulching the grass, too, doesn't leave a mess and don't have to
>>>>> bother with a bagger.
>>>>>
>>>>> If and when I get into composting, there's plenty of other stuff I can
>>>>> throw in that.
>>>>
>>>> The grass is good to include in the compost pile because it adds
>>>> nitrogen that helps the pile cook.
>>>
>>> I'm sure you're right about that. But I have nasty memories of when my
>>> son was a teenager and started cutting the grass for me (bless him for
>>> that). He dumped it in the back and I had a huge mess I finally cleaned
>>> up. We didn't know about composting then.
>>>
>>> Composting has its benefits but is just more work and I have plenty as
>>> it is. I was going to give it a try in a nice wide plastic bucket type
>>> thing I found with ropes for handles. I notice it has a crack in the
>>> bottom which would let the water drain out. Maybe it would work anyway
>>> or I could put duct tape on it. But it will have to be satisfied with
>>> crabgrass and weeds and if I ever get rid of that, I don't know what
>>> I'll put in there.
>>
>> I used to build bins and turn compost over like they all recommend but
>> now I just make very big piles and let is sit for over a year without
>> doing much to it. I do add garbage for a few months and pull out the
>> largest weeds that grow in it - otherwise it's pretty much on it's own.
>> But it sounds like you are a lot neater than I am so you might not be
>> content with stuff that doesn't bother me.
>
> I doubt I'm neater; I'm the scourge of the neighborhood. Everybody has
> their lawns perfect, beautiful landscaping, houses with everything, if not
> perfect, kept in good repair, and I struggle. I could handle a pile
> somewhere so long as it doesn't get junk and broken glass mixed in like
> that pile did. Setting that red plastic bucket out would be a eyesore now
> that I am finally starting to get some flowers and beautification projects
> going again. And if I didn't read usenet, I could burn my garage down
> because I was going to get it going in a handy place where the gas cans
> are (accessible in the mess in there) and I already knew that it generated
> heat. I don't exactly see how, but maybe it could with fumes. Stuff is
> packed in there, another mess, potter's wheel I don't want to part with,
> son dumped his weights on me, the guy who did my cement work wanted to
> store his lumber in there. I don't care until unless it gets to be too
> long. I let the grandson of the people next door store his motorcycle in
> there. He left a couple of huge containers full of dirty oil. Finally I
> got fed up with that and sat out there and funnelled it into pepsi
> bottles, and my son took it somewhere. It took awhile to get all that oil
> in those bottles and capped. I think he took it to the recycling center,
> but I wouldn't count on it. A guy wanted to buy the bike from me, but no,
> I didn't have the papers, didn't know where the kid was, didn't feel like
> calling his relatives.
>
> One day after more than 5 years he shows up with trailer and wants his
> motorcycle. Was I glad to get that out of there.
>
> The reason I balk at any pile is I constantly have a pile of brush I dump
> behind my tree from all the trees in my hard. I can cut it up with a
> chainsaw, but almost cut my finger off once, so am not so quick to get
> that out, still have to get rid of it. We can burn again on certain days,
> but I have to stand out there for hours and watch it. So I want until I
> can get somebody to haul it away cheap. Sometimes somebody goes through
> the alley wanting to pick up a few bucks. $20 is about all I want to pay.
> If I have them take it to the landfill, they charge another $10 which
> would make it $30. If I chop it up small enough to put in those bio bags,
> I have to buy a sticker which is $1.36? Can't remember. Bah. I'm
> waiting for my granddaughter's boyfriend to come pick it up and dump it
> behind his workplace where they burn, but he hasn't showed up yet and I
> don't want him getting in trouble with his employer over it. Last time it
> went to somebody's firepit. Doesn't matter. As soon as it's gone, there
> will be another pile there. I'm sick of piles :-).
>
> Oh, and I've spent hours cutting the bigger pieces and tying it up in
> regulation size bundles. Then they will take it for free.
>
> Couple nice cherry logs I was saving for him because he said he wanted
> them. Those I can burn in the fireplace.
>
> My little rant for the day. You used to set it out by the garbage and
> they just picked it up. But, no now we have to go hi tech. We have new
> garbage cans that belong to the city and a truck with an arm will now
> collect the trash. That will be a disaster in the winter because the
> alley doesn't get plowed. Plus an extra $8 a month (what else is new?)
> and you can only have one can, you still can put out old furniture, wood,
> blah blah, but if you put out one extra bag of garbage, they really sock
> it to you for that. It's maddening. I'm very neat about the way I put
> out my garbage. Now I'll have to hose out a damn can because it will get
> to stinking eventually.
>
Thanks for that little story - brought a smile to my face.
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#14: Re: Leaf shreaders for home owners
Posted on 2006-06-09 03:04:14 by Eggs Zachtly
I Love Lucy said:
> <snip>
ROFL Good read!
--
Eggs
-If you must choose between two evils, pick the one you've never tried
before.
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#15: Re: Leaf shreaders for home owners
Posted on 2006-06-09 03:20:01 by Steveo
eggsUNDERSCOREHEREzachtly@hotmail.com wrote:
> ROFL Good read!
>
Do you mulch or bag?
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#16: Re: Leaf shreaders for home owners
Posted on 2006-06-09 11:24:11 by Eggs Zachtly
Steveo said:
> eggsUNDERSCOREHEREzachtly@hotmail.com wrote:
>> ROFL Good read!
>>
> Do you mulch or bag?
I've never had a bagger. I think they're a pain in the ass. If the grass is
too tall to mulch, then I'll take the blocking plate off the discharge
chute, and rake the clippings. One or two times like that usually provides
enough grass clippings to stir into the leaves from the fall and gets my
compost going. =)
--
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-I went to school to become a wit, only got halfway through...
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#17: Re: Leaf shreaders for home owners
Posted on 2006-06-09 16:17:42 by jaykchan
Srgnt Billko wrote:
> "I Love Lucy" <nomore@monkey.biz> wrote in message
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> > "Srgnt Billko" <frrt@blipl.net> wrote in message
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> >>
> >> "I Love Lucy" <nomore@monkey.biz> wrote in message
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> >>>
> >>> "Danny" <dannol@si.rr.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:hZFhg.7109$ci.4107@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com...
> >>>> Any reccomendations on Leaf shreaders for home owners?
> >>>
> >>> My new Toro self-propelled lawn mower mulches them. I love it. The
> >>> only thing I have to worry about is a wind vortex makes a large pile in
> >>> one spot, but we just bag those up.
> >>>
> >>> I love mulching the grass, too, doesn't leave a mess and don't have to
> >>> bother with a bagger.
> >>>
> >>> If and when I get into composting, there's plenty of other stuff I can
> >>> throw in that.
> >>
> >> The grass is good to include in the compost pile because it adds nitrogen
> >> that helps the pile cook.
> >
> > I'm sure you're right about that. But I have nasty memories of when my
> > son was a teenager and started cutting the grass for me (bless him for
> > that). He dumped it in the back and I had a huge mess I finally cleaned
> > up. We didn't know about composting then.
> >
> > Composting has its benefits but is just more work and I have plenty as it
> > is. I was going to give it a try in a nice wide plastic bucket type thing
> > I found with ropes for handles. I notice it has a crack in the bottom
> > which would let the water drain out. Maybe it would work anyway or I
> > could put duct tape on it. But it will have to be satisfied with
> > crabgrass and weeds and if I ever get rid of that, I don't know what I'll
> > put in there.
>
> I used to build bins and turn compost over like they all recommend but now I
> just make very big piles and let is sit for over a year without doing much
> to it. I do add garbage for a few months and pull out the largest weeds
> that grow in it - otherwise it's pretty much on it's own. But it sounds
> like you are a lot neater than I am so you might not be content with stuff
> that doesn't bother me.
I also put the leaves and bagged grass clippings (grass is rarely
bagged) in piles -- no fancy bins and such. But I turn the piles
whenever I finish mowing the lawn (only takes 5 minutes). I find that
if I don't turn the piles at least once for a long while, many large
leaves simply won't decompose and stay there in layer (even after 6
months sitting there), and block water from reaching the bottom layer.
I guess this may have something to do with the fact that the tree
leaves are large and my garden vacuum doesn't do a good job shredding
the large leaves.
After the leaves and grass clippings staying in piles for one year,
they are done and I can use the finish products in my vegetable garden
or top dressing the lawn. After a couple years doing this, my
vegetable garden has turned from sandy to rich soil.
I am currently using a garden vacuum (look like a mower) to suck up the
leaves on the lawn and shred the leaves in pieces (not always in small
pieces). I would like it better if I had bought the self-propelled
model. I would only recommend people to use garden vacuum if they are
into composing. If people are not into composing, they are better off
using a gas-powered leaf blower or a rake.
Jay Chan
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#18: Re: Leaf shreaders for home owners
Posted on 2006-06-09 21:01:24 by I Love Lucy
"Eggs Zachtly" <re@d.thereplyto.header> wrote in message
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> Steveo said:
>
>> eggsUNDERSCOREHEREzachtly@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> ROFL Good read!
>>>
>> Do you mulch or bag?
>
> I've never had a bagger. I think they're a pain in the ass. If the
> grass is
> too tall to mulch, then I'll take the blocking plate off the discharge
> chute, and rake the clippings. One or two times like that usually
> provides
> enough grass clippings to stir into the leaves from the fall and gets
> my
> compost going. =)
Now there's a good compromise for me at least with the grass. Thanks
for the idea. I hate to buy more stuff, but I saw at the hardware store
that have some plastic barrels with handles you turn every so often. I
will *consider* getting one of those if I can't find an improvised
solution.
>
> --
> Eggs
>
> -I went to school to become a wit, only got halfway through...
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#19: Re: Leaf shreaders for home owners
Posted on 2006-06-09 23:06:01 by Eggs Zachtly
I Love Lucy said:
> "Eggs Zachtly" <re@d.thereplyto.header> wrote in message
> news:n68z5ef49szq$.dlg@sneupie.eingang.org...
>> Steveo said:
>>
>>> eggsUNDERSCOREHEREzachtly@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>> ROFL Good read!
>>>>
>>> Do you mulch or bag?
>>
>> I've never had a bagger. I think they're a pain in the ass. If the
>> grass is
>> too tall to mulch, then I'll take the blocking plate off the discharge
>> chute, and rake the clippings. One or two times like that usually
>> provides
>> enough grass clippings to stir into the leaves from the fall and gets
>> my
>> compost going. =)
>
> Now there's a good compromise for me at least with the grass. Thanks
> for the idea. I hate to buy more stuff, but I saw at the hardware store
> that have some plastic barrels with handles you turn every so often. I
> will *consider* getting one of those if I can't find an improvised
> solution.
>
I looked at those, and it seems a good solution for small-scale composting.
I opted to build my own a few years ago, and am glad that I did. It's three
bins, each 3x3x3 feet, with removable slats down the front, and 1/4" nylon
mesh on the remaining sides. It worked great, provided it was turned. This
year, I put my vegetable garden in raised beds, and filled them with a mix
of 50% river-bottom topsoil (screened thru a 3/8" screen), 25% composted
manure and 25% composted yard waste (both screened thru a 1/2" screen). I
won't be needing fresh compost for a few years, I don't think, so I've been
a bit lax in turning it. Too many other things to do right now, and no
hurry on that one.
As was stated earlier in the thread, you do need some grass clippings in
with the leaves (approx 20% grass should do fine), in order to move the
composting process along. It also helps to let the grass clippings dry out
a bit, before adding them to the compost. I'd spread mine out on a tarp on
the driveway until they'd start to brown a bit, and then add them. Looked a
bit strange to my neighbors, until they saw what I was doing with it. I
think I saw a tarp of them, on a driveway down the street, the other day.
=)
--
Eggs
Can a storm be officially designated as a tornado without touching down at
a trailer park?
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#20: Re: Leaf shreaders for home owners
Posted on 2006-06-09 23:38:27 by Srgnt Billko
"Eggs Zachtly" <re@d.thereplyto.header> wrote in message
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>I Love Lucy said:
>
>> "Eggs Zachtly" <re@d.thereplyto.header> wrote in message
>> news:n68z5ef49szq$.dlg@sneupie.eingang.org...
>>> Steveo said:
>>>
>>>> eggsUNDERSCOREHEREzachtly@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>> ROFL Good read!
>>>>>
>>>> Do you mulch or bag?
>>>
>>> I've never had a bagger. I think they're a pain in the ass. If the
>>> grass is
>>> too tall to mulch, then I'll take the blocking plate off the discharge
>>> chute, and rake the clippings. One or two times like that usually
>>> provides
>>> enough grass clippings to stir into the leaves from the fall and gets
>>> my
>>> compost going. =)
>>
>> Now there's a good compromise for me at least with the grass. Thanks
>> for the idea. I hate to buy more stuff, but I saw at the hardware store
>> that have some plastic barrels with handles you turn every so often. I
>> will *consider* getting one of those if I can't find an improvised
>> solution.
>>
>
> I looked at those, and it seems a good solution for small-scale
> composting.
> I opted to build my own a few years ago, and am glad that I did. It's
> three
> bins, each 3x3x3 feet, with removable slats down the front, and 1/4" nylon
> mesh on the remaining sides. It worked great, provided it was turned. This
> year, I put my vegetable garden in raised beds, and filled them with a mix
> of 50% river-bottom topsoil (screened thru a 3/8" screen), 25% composted
> manure and 25% composted yard waste (both screened thru a 1/2" screen). I
> won't be needing fresh compost for a few years, I don't think, so I've
> been
> a bit lax in turning it. Too many other things to do right now, and no
> hurry on that one.
>
> As was stated earlier in the thread, you do need some grass clippings in
> with the leaves (approx 20% grass should do fine), in order to move the
> composting process along. It also helps to let the grass clippings dry out
> a bit, before adding them to the compost. I'd spread mine out on a tarp on
> the driveway until they'd start to brown a bit, and then add them. Looked
> a
> bit strange to my neighbors, until they saw what I was doing with it. I
> think I saw a tarp of them, on a driveway down the street, the other day.
> Eggs
>
You can also add lawn fertilizer (high in nitrogen) to the compost to help
is cook. I buy a couple broken bags at the end of the year - they
practically give it away.
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#21: Re: Leaf shreaders for home owners
Posted on 2006-06-10 01:42:35 by Eggs Zachtly
Srgnt Billko said:
> "Eggs Zachtly" <re@d.thereplyto.header> wrote in message
> news:1mfmz7of6cav7$.dlg@sneupie.eingang.org...
>>I Love Lucy said:
>>
>>> "Eggs Zachtly" <re@d.thereplyto.header> wrote in message
>>> news:n68z5ef49szq$.dlg@sneupie.eingang.org...
>>>> Steveo said:
>>>>
>>>>> eggsUNDERSCOREHEREzachtly@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> ROFL Good read!
>>>>>>
>>>>> Do you mulch or bag?
>>>>
>>>> I've never had a bagger. I think they're a pain in the ass. If the
>>>> grass is
>>>> too tall to mulch, then I'll take the blocking plate off the discharge
>>>> chute, and rake the clippings. One or two times like that usually
>>>> provides
>>>> enough grass clippings to stir into the leaves from the fall and gets
>>>> my
>>>> compost going. =)
>>>
>>> Now there's a good compromise for me at least with the grass. Thanks
>>> for the idea. I hate to buy more stuff, but I saw at the hardware store
>>> that have some plastic barrels with handles you turn every so often. I
>>> will *consider* getting one of those if I can't find an improvised
>>> solution.
>>>
>>
>> I looked at those, and it seems a good solution for small-scale
>> composting.
>> I opted to build my own a few years ago, and am glad that I did. It's
>> three
>> bins, each 3x3x3 feet, with removable slats down the front, and 1/4" nylon
>> mesh on the remaining sides. It worked great, provided it was turned. This
>> year, I put my vegetable garden in raised beds, and filled them with a mix
>> of 50% river-bottom topsoil (screened thru a 3/8" screen), 25% composted
>> manure and 25% composted yard waste (both screened thru a 1/2" screen). I
>> won't be needing fresh compost for a few years, I don't think, so I've
>> been
>> a bit lax in turning it. Too many other things to do right now, and no
>> hurry on that one.
>>
>> As was stated earlier in the thread, you do need some grass clippings in
>> with the leaves (approx 20% grass should do fine), in order to move the
>> composting process along. It also helps to let the grass clippings dry out
>> a bit, before adding them to the compost. I'd spread mine out on a tarp on
>> the driveway until they'd start to brown a bit, and then add them. Looked
>> a
>> bit strange to my neighbors, until they saw what I was doing with it. I
>> think I saw a tarp of them, on a driveway down the street, the other day.
>> Eggs
>>
>
> You can also add lawn fertilizer (high in nitrogen) to the compost to help
> is cook. I buy a couple broken bags at the end of the year - they
> practically give it away.
I'll sometimes grab a couple extra containers of worms, when I'm goin'
fishin', and dump them in, also.
--
Eggs
-Eat well, stay fit, die anyway.
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#22: Re: Leaf shreaders for home owners
Posted on 2006-06-10 02:43:35 by Srgnt Billko
"Eggs Zachtly" <re@d.thereplyto.header> wrote in message
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> Srgnt Billko said:
>
>> "Eggs Zachtly" <re@d.thereplyto.header> wrote in message
>> news:1mfmz7of6cav7$.dlg@sneupie.eingang.org...
>>>I Love Lucy said:
>>>
>>>> "Eggs Zachtly" <re@d.thereplyto.header> wrote in message
>>>> news:n68z5ef49szq$.dlg@sneupie.eingang.org...
>>>>> Steveo said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> eggsUNDERSCOREHEREzachtly@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> ROFL Good read!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you mulch or bag?
>>>>>
>>>>> I've never had a bagger. I think they're a pain in the ass. If the
>>>>> grass is
>>>>> too tall to mulch, then I'll take the blocking plate off the discharge
>>>>> chute, and rake the clippings. One or two times like that usually
>>>>> provides
>>>>> enough grass clippings to stir into the leaves from the fall and gets
>>>>> my
>>>>> compost going. =)
>>>>
>>>> Now there's a good compromise for me at least with the grass. Thanks
>>>> for the idea. I hate to buy more stuff, but I saw at the hardware
>>>> store
>>>> that have some plastic barrels with handles you turn every so often. I
>>>> will *consider* getting one of those if I can't find an improvised
>>>> solution.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I looked at those, and it seems a good solution for small-scale
>>> composting.
>>> I opted to build my own a few years ago, and am glad that I did. It's
>>> three
>>> bins, each 3x3x3 feet, with removable slats down the front, and 1/4"
>>> nylon
>>> mesh on the remaining sides. It worked great, provided it was turned.
>>> This
>>> year, I put my vegetable garden in raised beds, and filled them with a
>>> mix
>>> of 50% river-bottom topsoil (screened thru a 3/8" screen), 25% composted
>>> manure and 25% composted yard waste (both screened thru a 1/2" screen).
>>> I
>>> won't be needing fresh compost for a few years, I don't think, so I've
>>> been
>>> a bit lax in turning it. Too many other things to do right now, and no
>>> hurry on that one.
>>>
>>> As was stated earlier in the thread, you do need some grass clippings in
>>> with the leaves (approx 20% grass should do fine), in order to move the
>>> composting process along. It also helps to let the grass clippings dry
>>> out
>>> a bit, before adding them to the compost. I'd spread mine out on a tarp
>>> on
>>> the driveway until they'd start to brown a bit, and then add them.
>>> Looked
>>> a
>>> bit strange to my neighbors, until they saw what I was doing with it. I
>>> think I saw a tarp of them, on a driveway down the street, the other
>>> day.
>>> Eggs
>>>
>>
>> You can also add lawn fertilizer (high in nitrogen) to the compost to
>> help
>> is cook. I buy a couple broken bags at the end of the year - they
>> practically give it away.
>
> I'll sometimes grab a couple extra containers of worms, when I'm goin'
> fishin', and dump them in, also.
>
> --
> Eggs
>
> -Eat well, stay fit, die anyway.
Our Dalmation loves to hunt for those big fat juicey worms when we are
digging in the compost pile. She thinks she's "eating well".
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#23: Re: Leaf shreaders for home owners
Posted on 2006-06-10 20:15:00 by I Love Lucy
"Eggs Zachtly" <re@d.thereplyto.header> wrote in message
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>I Love Lucy said:
>
>> "Eggs Zachtly" <re@d.thereplyto.header> wrote in message
>> news:n68z5ef49szq$.dlg@sneupie.eingang.org...
>>> Steveo said:
>>>
>>>> eggsUNDERSCOREHEREzachtly@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>> ROFL Good read!
>>>>>
>>>> Do you mulch or bag?
>>>
>>> I've never had a bagger. I think they're a pain in the ass. If the
>>> grass is
>>> too tall to mulch, then I'll take the blocking plate off the
>>> discharge
>>> chute, and rake the clippings. One or two times like that usually
>>> provides
>>> enough grass clippings to stir into the leaves from the fall and
>>> gets
>>> my
>>> compost going. =)
>>
>> Now there's a good compromise for me at least with the grass. Thanks
>> for the idea. I hate to buy more stuff, but I saw at the hardware
>> store
>> that have some plastic barrels with handles you turn every so often.
>> I
>> will *consider* getting one of those if I can't find an improvised
>> solution.
>>
>
> I looked at those, and it seems a good solution for small-scale
> composting.
> I opted to build my own a few years ago, and am glad that I did. It's
> three
> bins, each 3x3x3 feet, with removable slats down the front, and 1/4"
> nylon
> mesh on the remaining sides. It worked great, provided it was turned.
> This
> year, I put my vegetable garden in raised beds, and filled them with a
> mix
> of 50% river-bottom topsoil (screened thru a 3/8" screen), 25%
> composted
> manure and 25% composted yard waste (both screened thru a 1/2"
> screen). I
> won't be needing fresh compost for a few years, I don't think, so I've
> been
> a bit lax in turning it. Too many other things to do right now, and no
> hurry on that one.
>
> As was stated earlier in the thread, you do need some grass clippings
> in
> with the leaves (approx 20% grass should do fine), in order to move
> the
> composting process along. It also helps to let the grass clippings dry
> out
> a bit, before adding them to the compost. I'd spread mine out on a
> tarp on
> the driveway until they'd start to brown a bit, and then add them.
> Looked a
> bit strange to my neighbors, until they saw what I was doing with it.
> I
> think I saw a tarp of them, on a driveway down the street, the other
> day.
Well, I'm quite used to looking strange to my neighbors. That is funny.
20% grass is the key to that I guess. Maybe I'll rig something up. It
is 49 degrees here today and raining, so no gardening or much else
today. I'm determined not to turn up the heat.
That's funny about your neighbors. You are a trendsetter!
I'll give more thought to this composting. I know what I can do. Two
wastebasket type things from the dollar store as large as possible.
When it's time to turn it, stir it as best I can and dump it in the
other, stir a little more. Find a cover to fit. That ought to work.
> =)
>
> --
> Eggs
>
> Can a storm be officially designated as a tornado without touching
> down at
> a trailer park?
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#24: Re: Leaf shreaders for home owners
Posted on 2006-06-10 21:27:47 by Eggs Zachtly
I Love Lucy said:
> "Eggs Zachtly" <re@d.thereplyto.header> wrote in message
> news:1mfmz7of6cav7$.dlg@sneupie.eingang.org...
>>I Love Lucy said:
>>
>>> "Eggs Zachtly" <re@d.thereplyto.header> wrote in message
>>> news:n68z5ef49szq$.dlg@sneupie.eingang.org...
>>>> Steveo said:
>>>>
>>>>> eggsUNDERSCOREHEREzachtly@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> ROFL Good read!
>>>>>>
>>>>> Do you mulch or bag?
>>>>
>>>> I've never had a bagger. I think they're a pain in the ass. If the
>>>> grass is
>>>> too tall to mulch, then I'll take the blocking plate off the
>>>> discharge
>>>> chute, and rake the clippings. One or two times like that usually
>>>> provides
>>>> enough grass clippings to stir into the leaves from the fall and
>>>> gets
>>>> my
>>>> compost going. =)
>>>
>>> Now there's a good compromise for me at least with the grass. Thanks
>>> for the idea. I hate to buy more stuff, but I saw at the hardware
>>> store
>>> that have some plastic barrels with handles you turn every so often.
>>> I
>>> will *consider* getting one of those if I can't find an improvised
>>> solution.
>>>
>>
>> I looked at those, and it seems a good solution for small-scale
>> composting.
>> I opted to build my own a few years ago, and am glad that I did. It's
>> three
>> bins, each 3x3x3 feet, with removable slats down the front, and 1/4"
>> nylon
>> mesh on the remaining sides. It worked great, provided it was turned.
>> This
>> year, I put my vegetable garden in raised beds, and filled them with a
>> mix
>> of 50% river-bottom topsoil (screened thru a 3/8" screen), 25%
>> composted
>> manure and 25% composted yard waste (both screened thru a 1/2"
>> screen). I
>> won't be needing fresh compost for a few years, I don't think, so I've
>> been
>> a bit lax in turning it. Too many other things to do right now, and no
>> hurry on that one.
>>
>> As was stated earlier in the thread, you do need some grass clippings
>> in
>> with the leaves (approx 20% grass should do fine), in order to move
>> the
>> composting process along. It also helps to let the grass clippings dry
>> out
>> a bit, before adding them to the compost. I'd spread mine out on a
>> tarp on
>> the driveway until they'd start to brown a bit, and then add them.
>> Looked a
>> bit strange to my neighbors, until they saw what I was doing with it.
>> I
>> think I saw a tarp of them, on a driveway down the street, the other
>> day.
>
> Well, I'm quite used to looking strange to my neighbors. That is funny.
> 20% grass is the key to that I guess. Maybe I'll rig something up. It
> is 49 degrees here today and raining, so no gardening or much else
> today. I'm determined not to turn up the heat.
>
> That's funny about your neighbors. You are a trendsetter!
>
> I'll give more thought to this composting. I know what I can do. Two
> wastebasket type things from the dollar store as large as possible.
> When it's time to turn it, stir it as best I can and dump it in the
> other, stir a little more. Find a cover to fit. That ought to work.
Yup. As I said, I have three bays to my compost bin. One is nearly almost
always empty, and it's used for stirring the other two. One fork at a time
from each into the empty bin, usually it stirred quite well. Properly made,
it's probably the best thing you can add to garden soil, IMO.
--
Eggs
Do Lipton employees take coffee breaks?
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#25: Re: Leaf shreaders for home owners
Posted on 2006-06-11 17:05:02 by I Love Lucy
"I Love Lucy" <nomore@monkey.biz> wrote in message
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>
> "Eggs Zachtly" <re@d.thereplyto.header> wrote in message
> news:1mfmz7of6cav7$.dlg@sneupie.eingang.org...
>>I Love Lucy said:
>>
>>> "Eggs Zachtly" <re@d.thereplyto.header> wrote in message
>>> news:n68z5ef49szq$.dlg@sneupie.eingang.org...
>>>> Steveo said:
>>>>
>>>>> eggsUNDERSCOREHEREzachtly@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> ROFL Good read!
>>>>>>
>>>>> Do you mulch or bag?
>>>>
>>>> I've never had a bagger. I think they're a pain in the ass. If the
>>>> grass is
>>>> too tall to mulch, then I'll take the blocking plate off the
>>>> discharge
>>>> chute, and rake the clippings. One or two times like that usually
>>>> provides
>>>> enough grass clippings to stir into the leaves from the fall and
>>>> gets
>>>> my
>>>> compost going. =)
>>>
>>> Now there's a good compromise for me at least with the grass.
>>> Thanks
>>> for the idea. I hate to buy more stuff, but I saw at the hardware
>>> store
>>> that have some plastic barrels with handles you turn every so often.
>>> I
>>> will *consider* getting one of those if I can't find an improvised
>>> solution.
>>>
>>
>> I looked at those, and it seems a good solution for small-scale
>> composting.
>> I opted to build my own a few years ago, and am glad that I did. It's
>> three
>> bins, each 3x3x3 feet, with removable slats down the front, and 1/4"
>> nylon
>> mesh on the remaining sides. It worked great, provided it was turned.
>> This
>> year, I put my vegetable garden in raised beds, and filled them with
>> a mix
>> of 50% river-bottom topsoil (screened thru a 3/8" screen), 25%
>> composted
>> manure and 25% composted yard waste (both screened thru a 1/2"
>> screen). I
>> won't be needing fresh compost for a few years, I don't think, so
>> I've been
>> a bit lax in turning it. Too many other things to do right now, and
>> no
>> hurry on that one.
>>
>> As was stated earlier in the thread, you do need some grass clippings
>> in
>> with the leaves (approx 20% grass should do fine), in order to move
>> the
>> composting process along. It also helps to let the grass clippings
>> dry out
>> a bit, before adding them to the compost. I'd spread mine out on a
>> tarp on
>> the driveway until they'd start to brown a bit, and then add them.
>> Looked a
>> bit strange to my neighbors, until they saw what I was doing with it.
>> I
>> think I saw a tarp of them, on a driveway down the street, the other
>> day.
>
> Well, I'm quite used to looking strange to my neighbors. That is
> funny. 20% grass is the key to that I guess. Maybe I'll rig something
> up. It is 49 degrees here today and raining, so no gardening or much
> else today. I'm determined not to turn up the heat.
>
> That's funny about your neighbors. You are a trendsetter!
>
> I'll give more thought to this composting. I know what I can do. Two
> wastebasket type things from the dollar store as large as possible.
> When it's time to turn it, stir it as best I can and dump it in the
> other, stir a little more. Find a cover to fit. That ought to work.
>> =)
>>
>> --
>> Eggs
>>
>> Can a storm be officially designated as a tornado without touching
>> down at
>> a trailer park?
>
>
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#26: Re: Leaf shreaders for home owners
Posted on 2006-06-11 17:08:52 by I Love Lucy
"Eggs Zachtly" <re@d.thereplyto.header> wrote in message
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>
> Yup. As I said, I have three bays to my compost bin. One is nearly
> almost
> always empty, and it's used for stirring the other two. One fork at a
> time
> from each into the empty bin, usually it stirred quite well. Properly
> made,
> it's probably the best thing you can add to garden soil, IMO.
It might work magic on some of my trouble spots. I'll try to get
something going, probably in the fall, just throw the fall starter stuff
in there and put it in the garage over the winter..
In the meantime, you can FedEx me some of yours. Overnight please, you
pay :-).
>
> --
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> Do Lipton employees take coffee breaks?
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