#1: Re: Help! My new lawn is dying!
Posted on 2006-06-26 17:51:25 by Steve
wardk <wardk.pwfna@gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote in
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> Hi Guys,
>
> I laid a brand new lawn about two months ago, using turf from a
> reputable dealer.
>
> I cleared and levelled the ground, and laid the turf on top. I
> carefully watered it every couple of days. Within a few weeks bare
> patches started to appear, and now the bare patches are about equal
> with what grass is left. I laid a similar lawn on much worse ground a
> few years ago with perfect results, so I don't understand what I've
> done wrong.
>
> Help!
>
> Thanks.
>
>
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I was always told when you get turf, you have to water it much more then
seed. Soaking it twice a day for the first 2 weeks or so until it
establishes itself.
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#2: Re: Help! My new lawn is dying!
Posted on 2006-06-26 18:56:27 by Tom The Great
On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:51:25 -0500, Steve <scheadley@co.ha.md.us>
wrote:
>wardk <wardk.pwfna@gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote in
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>
>>
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> I laid a brand new lawn about two months ago, using turf from a
>> reputable dealer.
>>
>> I cleared and levelled the ground, and laid the turf on top. I
>> carefully watered it every couple of days. Within a few weeks bare
>> patches started to appear, and now the bare patches are about equal
>> with what grass is left. I laid a similar lawn on much worse ground a
>> few years ago with perfect results, so I don't understand what I've
>> done wrong.
>>
>> Help!
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> --
>> wardk
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>
>I was always told when you get turf, you have to water it much more then
>seed. Soaking it twice a day for the first 2 weeks or so until it
>establishes itself.
I heard the same thing, since the roots are short, and the top layer
of soil drys quickly, frequent watering was required.
later,
tom @ www.FindMeShelter.com
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#3: Re: Help! My new lawn is dying!
Posted on 2006-06-27 02:24:33 by Kyle Boatright
"Tom The Great" <Post@here.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:51:25 -0500, Steve <scheadley@co.ha.md.us>
> wrote:
>
>>wardk <wardk.pwfna@gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote in
>>news:wardk.pwfna@gardenbanter.co.uk:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Guys,
>>>
>>> I laid a brand new lawn about two months ago, using turf from a
>>> reputable dealer.
>>>
>>> I cleared and levelled the ground, and laid the turf on top. I
>>> carefully watered it every couple of days. Within a few weeks bare
>>> patches started to appear, and now the bare patches are about equal
>>> with what grass is left. I laid a similar lawn on much worse ground a
>>> few years ago with perfect results, so I don't understand what I've
>>> done wrong.
>>>
>>> Help!
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> wardk
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ -----------
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>>>
>>>
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>>
>>I was always told when you get turf, you have to water it much more then
>>seed. Soaking it twice a day for the first 2 weeks or so until it
>>establishes itself.
>
>
> I heard the same thing, since the roots are short, and the top layer
> of soil drys quickly, frequent watering was required.
>
> later,
>
> tom @ www.FindMeShelter.com
There is a very fine line to walk when irrigating new sod. You don't want to
soak new sod until it is soggy. If the grass is too wet, the abundance of
water tells the grass "don't bother to grow roots, there is plenty of
water", or something to that effect. I laid 4,500 sf of zoysia exactly 2
weeks ago (to go with the other 7,500 sf I've already got). I watered
moderately 2x a day - once before dawn, and the other time just before noon.
This kept the soil moist during the day, but allowed it to dry out somewhat
overnight, which encourages the roots to grow, so they can find moisture.
The sod is surprisingly well rooted now, and I am cutting back on the
watering. In the past, I tended to over water and the sod took twice as
long to root well.
KB
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#4: Re: Help! My new lawn is dying!
Posted on 2006-06-27 14:55:36 by trader4
Kyle Boatright wrote:
> "Tom The Great" <Post@here.com> wrote in message
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> > On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:51:25 -0500, Steve <scheadley@co.ha.md.us>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>wardk <wardk.pwfna@gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote in
> >>news:wardk.pwfna@gardenbanter.co.uk:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Hi Guys,
> >>>
> >>> I laid a brand new lawn about two months ago, using turf from a
> >>> reputable dealer.
> >>>
> >>> I cleared and levelled the ground, and laid the turf on top. I
> >>> carefully watered it every couple of days. Within a few weeks bare
> >>> patches started to appear, and now the bare patches are about equal
> >>> with what grass is left. I laid a similar lawn on much worse ground a
> >>> few years ago with perfect results, so I don't understand what I've
> >>> done wrong.
> >>>
> >>> Help!
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> wardk
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> >>>
> >>>
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> >>
> >>I was always told when you get turf, you have to water it much more then
> >>seed. Soaking it twice a day for the first 2 weeks or so until it
> >>establishes itself.
> >
> >
> > I heard the same thing, since the roots are short, and the top layer
> > of soil drys quickly, frequent watering was required.
> >
> > later,
> >
> > tom @ www.FindMeShelter.com
>
> There is a very fine line to walk when irrigating new sod. You don't want to
> soak new sod until it is soggy. If the grass is too wet, the abundance of
> water tells the grass "don't bother to grow roots, there is plenty of
> water", or something to that effect. I laid 4,500 sf of zoysia exactly 2
> weeks ago (to go with the other 7,500 sf I've already got). I watered
> moderately 2x a day - once before dawn, and the other time just before noon.
> This kept the soil moist during the day, but allowed it to dry out somewhat
> overnight, which encourages the roots to grow, so they can find moisture.
>
> The sod is surprisingly well rooted now, and I am cutting back on the
> watering. In the past, I tended to over water and the sod took twice as
> long to root well.
>
> KB
Sounds right to me. You want to keep it moist at all times for about
the first month, but not soggy and drenched. If it's Spring/Fall,
that's probably 2X a day. If it's hotter and sunny, then more
frequently. Sounds like the OP was not watering enough.
Also, hard to tell from "clearing" what soil prep work was done.
The OP should get a hold of the sod supplier and also a local ag
extension agent, if available.
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#5: Re: Help! My new lawn is dying!
Posted on 2006-06-28 04:13:22 by Tom The Great
On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:24:33 -0400, "Kyle Boatright"
<kboatright1@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>"Tom The Great" <Post@here.com> wrote in message
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>> On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:51:25 -0500, Steve <scheadley@co.ha.md.us>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>wardk <wardk.pwfna@gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote in
>>>news:wardk.pwfna@gardenbanter.co.uk:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>>
>>>> I laid a brand new lawn about two months ago, using turf from a
>>>> reputable dealer.
>>>>
>>>> I cleared and levelled the ground, and laid the turf on top. I
>>>> carefully watered it every couple of days. Within a few weeks bare
>>>> patches started to appear, and now the bare patches are about equal
>>>> with what grass is left. I laid a similar lawn on much worse ground a
>>>> few years ago with perfect results, so I don't understand what I've
>>>> done wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Help!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> wardk
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ -----------
>>>> - posted via www.GardenBanter.co.uk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>I was always told when you get turf, you have to water it much more then
>>>seed. Soaking it twice a day for the first 2 weeks or so until it
>>>establishes itself.
>>
>>
>> I heard the same thing, since the roots are short, and the top layer
>> of soil drys quickly, frequent watering was required.
>>
>> later,
>>
>> tom @ www.FindMeShelter.com
>
>There is a very fine line to walk when irrigating new sod. You don't want to
>soak new sod until it is soggy. If the grass is too wet, the abundance of
>water tells the grass "don't bother to grow roots, there is plenty of
>water", or something to that effect. I laid 4,500 sf of zoysia exactly 2
>weeks ago (to go with the other 7,500 sf I've already got). I watered
>moderately 2x a day - once before dawn, and the other time just before noon.
>This kept the soil moist during the day, but allowed it to dry out somewhat
>overnight, which encourages the roots to grow, so they can find moisture.
>
>The sod is surprisingly well rooted now, and I am cutting back on the
>watering. In the past, I tended to over water and the sod took twice as
>long to root well.
>
>KB
>
>
Good point about watering, you don't want a swamp.
Just thinking about it, wouldn't you feed the yard with a fertilizer
that promots root growth to speed up the process?
later,
tom
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#6: Re: Help! My new lawn is dying!
Posted on 2006-06-28 04:33:00 by Jonny
"Kyle Boatright" <kboatright1@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "Tom The Great" <Post@here.com> wrote in message
> news:ic40a2hl6chvvhqtm08h09l16hep2nd6dk@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:51:25 -0500, Steve <scheadley@co.ha.md.us>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>wardk <wardk.pwfna@gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote in
>>>news:wardk.pwfna@gardenbanter.co.uk:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>>
>>>> I laid a brand new lawn about two months ago, using turf from a
>>>> reputable dealer.
>>>>
>>>> I cleared and levelled the ground, and laid the turf on top. I
>>>> carefully watered it every couple of days. Within a few weeks bare
>>>> patches started to appear, and now the bare patches are about equal
>>>> with what grass is left. I laid a similar lawn on much worse ground a
>>>> few years ago with perfect results, so I don't understand what I've
>>>> done wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Help!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> wardk
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ -----------
>>>> - posted via www.GardenBanter.co.uk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>I was always told when you get turf, you have to water it much more then
>>>seed. Soaking it twice a day for the first 2 weeks or so until it
>>>establishes itself.
>>
>>
>> I heard the same thing, since the roots are short, and the top layer
>> of soil drys quickly, frequent watering was required.
>>
>> later,
>>
>> tom @ www.FindMeShelter.com
>
> There is a very fine line to walk when irrigating new sod. You don't want
> to soak new sod until it is soggy. If the grass is too wet, the abundance
> of water tells the grass "don't bother to grow roots, there is plenty of
> water", or something to that effect. I laid 4,500 sf of zoysia exactly 2
> weeks ago (to go with the other 7,500 sf I've already got). I watered
> moderately 2x a day - once before dawn, and the other time just before
> noon. This kept the soil moist during the day, but allowed it to dry out
> somewhat overnight, which encourages the roots to grow, so they can find
> moisture.
>
> The sod is surprisingly well rooted now, and I am cutting back on the
> watering. In the past, I tended to over water and the sod took twice as
> long to root well.
>
> KB
>
>
>
And we can all analyze this to death. Until some minute details and
observation of those of watering, how much irrigation and how often, dry
periods if any from mother nature, elevations, fertilizers in relation to
soil analysis, soil layers, underlying dead growth, actual soil analysis,
insect/mold/etc.; we're reaching in the dark. And that would be at best a
guess.
A brief look and feel would probably get a better guess of it.
--
Jonny
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