#1: Cucumber beetles continued

Posted on 2006-07-01 09:26:01 by Matthew Reed

These pests are devestating my cukes, squash, and are nibbling on my beans
and sunflowers. I don't want to use the chemicals because the plants are
starting to produce - my zuccinnis are exploding, cukes are blooming, etc.
What works with these things, but won't render the fruit of the plants
inedible?

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#2: Re: Cucumber beetles continued

Posted on 2006-07-01 16:41:17 by Lar

In article <Q6udnc4ona3ZvzvZnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@giganews.com>, "Matthew
Reed" <nospam at zootal dot com nospam> says...
:) These pests are devestating my cukes, squash, and are nibbling on my beans
:) and sunflowers. I don't want to use the chemicals because the plants are
:) starting to produce - my zuccinnis are exploding, cukes are blooming, etc.
:) What works with these things, but won't render the fruit of the plants
:) inedible?
:)
:)
:)

-- There are BT strains for beetles, but not sure if I have ever seen it
on the consumer market yet....pyrethrum spray has no residual so a
spraying at night should help a lot and not bother your harvest time.
Lar

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#3: Re: Cucumber beetles continued

Posted on 2006-07-01 17:33:49 by Mindful

"Lar" <larflu@comcastBUGS.net> wrote in message
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> In article <Q6udnc4ona3ZvzvZnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@giganews.com>, "Matthew
> Reed" <nospam at zootal dot com nospam> says...
> :) These pests are devestating my cukes, squash, and are nibbling on my
> beans
> :) and sunflowers. I don't want to use the chemicals because the plants
> are
> :) starting to produce - my zuccinnis are exploding, cukes are blooming,
> etc.
> :) What works with these things, but won't render the fruit of the plants
> :) inedible?
> :)
> :)
> :)
>
> -- There are BT strains for beetles, but not sure if I have ever seen it
> on the consumer market yet....pyrethrum spray has no residual so a
> spraying at night should help a lot and not bother your harvest time.
> Lar

In my experience Pyrethrum has little effect on these beetles and the damage
they do.

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#4: Re: Cucumber beetles continued

Posted on 2006-07-01 18:28:54 by Jim Carlock

"Matthew Reed" stated:
> Cucumber beetles are devestating my cukes, squash,
> and are nibbling on my beans and sunflowers. I
> don't want to use the chemicals because the plants are
> starting to produce - my zuccinnis are exploding, cukes
> are blooming, etc.
> What works with these things, but won't render the fruit
> of the plants inedible?

Try planting some radish seeds in your cuke hills. Don't
pull the radish. Let the radish go to seed. Radish should
benefit the cucumber and repell the cucumber beetles.
Some helpfule links:

http://www.ghorganics.com/CucumberBeetles.htm
http://www.ommas-aarden.net/comp_plant.htm
http://www.minifarmhomestead.com/gardening/companionplant.ht m
http://plantfairnursery.com/new_page_2.htm

The above links were found by searching Yahoo for:
+"cucumber beetle" +radish

I initially looked "cucumber beetle" up in the index of a
book, which mentioned interplanting two or three radish
and letting them go to seed to help protect against these
beetles. Tansy is supposed to protect against cucumber
beetle as well, but I don't see it recommended as a
"companion plant" for cucumbers.

The book also suggests filling a small container 3/4 full
with water and adding some cooking oil to it to act as
a trap for cucumber beetles.

Hope this helps.

--
Jim Carlock
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#5: Re: Cucumber beetles continued

Posted on 2006-07-01 18:45:21 by Lar

In article <e864c6$lka$1@nntp.aioe.org>, spamtrap@spamfree.com says...
:)
:) "Lar" <larflu@comcastBUGS.net> wrote in message
:) news:MPG.1f104573428045c49898fc@netnews.comcast.net...
:) > In article <Q6udnc4ona3ZvzvZnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@giganews.com>, "Matthew
:) > Reed" <nospam at zootal dot com nospam> says...
:) > :) These pests are devestating my cukes, squash, and are nibbling on my
:) > beans
:) > :) and sunflowers. I don't want to use the chemicals because the plants
:) > are
:) > :) starting to produce - my zuccinnis are exploding, cukes are blooming,
:) > etc.
:) > :) What works with these things, but won't render the fruit of the plants
:) > :) inedible?
:) > :)
:) > :)
:) > :)
:) >
:) > -- There are BT strains for beetles, but not sure if I have ever seen it
:) > on the consumer market yet....pyrethrum spray has no residual so a
:) > spraying at night should help a lot and not bother your harvest time.
:) > Lar
:)
:) In my experience Pyrethrum has little effect on these beetles and the damage
:) they do.
:)
:)

Pyrethrum is a continual use product for population reduction. Many feel
a spray or two and they should have results they want. It only kills
what it contacts so the next few days a new population can make their
way to the crops and look to have done no good at all. A nightly
application for one to two weeks will show results and then start again
as needed.
--
Lar

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#6: Re: Cucumber beetles continued

Posted on 2006-07-01 21:39:43 by Mindful

"Jim Carlock" <anonymous@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:apxpg.39331$7G2.34640@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
> "Matthew Reed" stated:
>> Cucumber beetles are devestating my cukes, squash,
>> and are nibbling on my beans and sunflowers. I
>> don't want to use the chemicals because the plants are
>> starting to produce - my zuccinnis are exploding, cukes
>> are blooming, etc.
>> What works with these things, but won't render the fruit
>> of the plants inedible?
>
> Try planting some radish seeds in your cuke hills. Don't
> pull the radish. Let the radish go to seed. Radish should
> benefit the cucumber and repell the cucumber beetles.
> Some helpfule links:
>
> http://www.ghorganics.com/CucumberBeetles.htm
> http://www.ommas-aarden.net/comp_plant.htm
> http://www.minifarmhomestead.com/gardening/companionplant.ht m
> http://plantfairnursery.com/new_page_2.htm
>
> The above links were found by searching Yahoo for:
> +"cucumber beetle" +radish
>
> I initially looked "cucumber beetle" up in the index of a
> book, which mentioned interplanting two or three radish
> and letting them go to seed to help protect against these
> beetles. Tansy is supposed to protect against cucumber
> beetle as well, but I don't see it recommended as a
> "companion plant" for cucumbers.
>
> The book also suggests filling a small container 3/4 full
> with water and adding some cooking oil to it to act as
> a trap for cucumber beetles.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> --
> Jim Carlock
> Post replies to the group.

Thanks. It's too late to find seed for sale now. Someone else recommended
marigolds but they didn't repel the beetles and themselves became infested
with some kind of tiny insects.

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#7: Re: Cucumber beetles continued

Posted on 2006-07-01 21:42:52 by Mindful

"Lar" <larflu@comcastBUGS.net> wrote in message
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> In article <e864c6$lka$1@nntp.aioe.org>, spamtrap@spamfree.com says...
> :)
> :) "Lar" <larflu@comcastBUGS.net> wrote in message
> :) news:MPG.1f104573428045c49898fc@netnews.comcast.net...
> :) > In article <Q6udnc4ona3ZvzvZnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@giganews.com>, "Matthew
> :) > Reed" <nospam at zootal dot com nospam> says...
> :) > :) These pests are devestating my cukes, squash, and are nibbling
> on my
> :) > beans
> :) > :) and sunflowers. I don't want to use the chemicals because the
> plants
> :) > are
> :) > :) starting to produce - my zuccinnis are exploding, cukes are
> blooming,
> :) > etc.
> :) > :) What works with these things, but won't render the fruit of the
> plants
> :) > :) inedible?
> :) > :)
> :) > :)
> :) > :)
> :) >
> :) > -- There are BT strains for beetles, but not sure if I have ever
> seen it
> :) > on the consumer market yet....pyrethrum spray has no residual so a
> :) > spraying at night should help a lot and not bother your harvest
> time.
> :) > Lar
> :)
> :) In my experience Pyrethrum has little effect on these beetles and the
> damage
> :) they do.
> :)
> :)
>
> Pyrethrum is a continual use product for population reduction. Many feel
> a spray or two and they should have results they want. It only kills
> what it contacts so the next few days a new population can make their
> way to the crops and look to have done no good at all. A nightly
> application for one to two weeks will show results and then start again
> as needed.
> --
> Lar

They spray was dripping off the beetles. When I went back in a few hours to
check they were all still there. I didn't appear to have killed any. They
decimated the crape myrtle and cannas last summer.

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#8: Re: Cucumber beetles continued

Posted on 2006-07-01 23:27:27 by sockiescat

Mindful Wrote:
> "Lar" larflu@comcastBUGS.net wrote in message
> news:MPG.1f10628f8ad92c8c9898fd@netnews.comcast.net...
> In article e864c6$lka$1@nntp.aioe.org, spamtrap@spamfree.com says...
>
> "Lar" larflu@comcastBUGS.net wrote in message
> news:MPG.1f104573428045c49898fc@netnews.comcast.net...
> In article Q6udnc4ona3ZvzvZnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@giganews.com, "Matthew
> Reed" nospam at zootal dot com nospam says...
> These pests are devestating my cukes, squash, and are nibbling
> on my beans and sunflowers. I don't want to use the chemicals because
> the
> plants are starting to produce - my zuccinnis are exploding, cukes
> are
> blooming, etc.
> What works with these things, but won't render the fruit of the
> plants inedible?
> There are BT strains for beetles, but not sure if I have ever
> seen it on the consumer market yet....pyrethrum spray has no residual
> so a
> spraying at night should help a lot and not bother your harvest time.
> Lar
>
> In my experience Pyrethrum has little effect on these beetles and the
> damage they do.
>
> Pyrethrum is a continual use product for population reduction. Many
> feel
> a spray or two and they should have results they want. It only kills
> what it contacts so the next few days a new population can make their
> way to the crops and look to have done no good at all. A nightly
> application for one to two weeks will show results and then start
> again
> as needed.
> --
> Lar
>
> They spray was dripping off the beetles. When I went back in a few
> hours to
> check they were all still there. I didn't appear to have killed any.
> They
> decimated the crape myrtle and cannas last summer.

i dont know if this would help or not but maybe try using cayenne
pepper just sprinkle it around and see what happens. i dont think the
bugs will like that taste much once they decide to take a munch.
it shouldnt hurt your plants and from the sounds of things its well
worth the try anyways cause otherwise u might end up getting your
garden chewed right up :(. good luck, sockiescat


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#9: Re: Cucumber beetles continued

Posted on 2006-07-02 21:22:46 by Matthew Reed

"Lar" <larflu@comcastBUGS.net> wrote in message
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> In article <e864c6$lka$1@nntp.aioe.org>, spamtrap@spamfree.com says...
> :)
> :) "Lar" <larflu@comcastBUGS.net> wrote in message
> :) news:MPG.1f104573428045c49898fc@netnews.comcast.net...
> :) > In article <Q6udnc4ona3ZvzvZnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@giganews.com>, "Matthew
> :) > Reed" <nospam at zootal dot com nospam> says...
> :) > :) These pests are devestating my cukes, squash, and are nibbling
> on my
> :) > beans
> :) > :) and sunflowers. I don't want to use the chemicals because the
> plants
> :) > are
> :) > :) starting to produce - my zuccinnis are exploding, cukes are
> blooming,
> :) > etc.
> :) > :) What works with these things, but won't render the fruit of the
> plants
> :) > :) inedible?
> :) > :)
> :) > :)
> :) > :)
> :) >
> :) > -- There are BT strains for beetles, but not sure if I have ever
> seen it
> :) > on the consumer market yet....pyrethrum spray has no residual so a
> :) > spraying at night should help a lot and not bother your harvest
> time.
> :) > Lar
> :)
> :) In my experience Pyrethrum has little effect on these beetles and the
> damage
> :) they do.
> :)
> :)
>
> Pyrethrum is a continual use product for population reduction. Many feel
> a spray or two and they should have results they want. It only kills
> what it contacts so the next few days a new population can make their
> way to the crops and look to have done no good at all. A nightly
> application for one to two weeks will show results and then start again
> as needed.
> --
> Lar

What about pyrethrum with piperonly butoxide? The bottle says you can use it
on the same day as harvest.

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#10: Re: Cucumber beetles continued

Posted on 2006-07-02 21:33:10 by Lar

In article <zrKdnTZJQaNchjXZnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@giganews.com>, "Matthew
Reed" <nospam at zootal dot com nospam> says...
:)
:) "Lar" <larflu@comcastBUGS.net> wrote in message
:) news:MPG.1f10628f8ad92c8c9898fd@netnews.comcast.net...
:) > In article <e864c6$lka$1@nntp.aioe.org>, spamtrap@spamfree.com says...
:) > :)
:) > :) "Lar" <larflu@comcastBUGS.net> wrote in message
:) > :) news:MPG.1f104573428045c49898fc@netnews.comcast.net...
:) > :) > In article <Q6udnc4ona3ZvzvZnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@giganews.com>, "Matthew
:) > :) > Reed" <nospam at zootal dot com nospam> says...
:) > :) > :) These pests are devestating my cukes, squash, and are nibbling
:) > on my
:) > :) > beans
:) > :) > :) and sunflowers. I don't want to use the chemicals because the
:) > plants
:) > :) > are
:) > :) > :) starting to produce - my zuccinnis are exploding, cukes are
:) > blooming,
:) > :) > etc.
:) > :) > :) What works with these things, but won't render the fruit of the
:) > plants
:) > :) > :) inedible?
:) > :) > :)
:) > :) > :)
:) > :) > :)
:) > :) >
:) > :) > -- There are BT strains for beetles, but not sure if I have ever
:) > seen it
:) > :) > on the consumer market yet....pyrethrum spray has no residual so a
:) > :) > spraying at night should help a lot and not bother your harvest
:) > time.
:) > :) > Lar
:) > :)
:) > :) In my experience Pyrethrum has little effect on these beetles and the
:) > damage
:) > :) they do.
:) > :)
:) > :)
:) >
:) > Pyrethrum is a continual use product for population reduction. Many feel
:) > a spray or two and they should have results they want. It only kills
:) > what it contacts so the next few days a new population can make their
:) > way to the crops and look to have done no good at all. A nightly
:) > application for one to two weeks will show results and then start again
:) > as needed.
:) > --
:) > Lar
:)
:) What about pyrethrum with piperonly butoxide? The bottle says you can use it
:) on the same day as harvest.
:)

It's the piperonly butoxide that makes pyrethrum effective...think
(thought) all pyrethrin/um products contained it.
--
Lar

It is said that the early bird gets the worm,
but it is the second mouse that gets the cheese.

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#11: Re: Cucumber beetles continued

Posted on 2006-07-06 16:53:17 by Alan Sung

"sockiescat" <sockiescat.2aapk0@gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote in message
news:sockiescat.2aapk0@gardenbanter.co.uk...
> i dont know if this would help or not but maybe try using cayenne
> pepper just sprinkle it around and see what happens. i dont think the
> bugs will like that taste much once they decide to take a munch.
> it shouldnt hurt your plants and from the sounds of things its well
> worth the try anyways cause otherwise u might end up getting your
> garden chewed right up :(. good luck, sockiescat
>
> sockiescat

Cayenne pepper does not work against cucumber beetles. Besides most cucumber
beetles will be on the underside of the leaves so sprinkling anything on the
leaves has little affect. I've planted the recommended companion plants
(marigolds) and they had no effect either. The closest thing that worked was
using a physical barrier. It's a spun polyester fabric called Remay that
covers the plant. They still managed to get to some plants by either
burrowing through the soil or finding small openings in the covering. You
also need to remove the covering at some point for polination of the flowers
which could allow the beetles in.

-al sung
Rapid Realm Technology, Inc.
Hopkinton, MA
Zone 6a

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