#1: [IBC] Defoliation & Repotting
Posted on 2005-06-28 03:51:44 by OneBonsaiBabe
I just defoliated a ficus nerifolia. As I was working I realized the tree
is no doubt in need of repotting. Can this be done at the same time or do I
need to wait after defoliation? If so, how long....until new leaves emerge?
Thanks,
Carol in Ft. Lauderdale, Zone 10
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#2: Re: [IBC] Defoliation & Repotting
Posted on 2005-06-28 08:52:11 by GOPHERHILL
In a message dated 6/27/2005 9:57:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
OneBonsaiBabe@AOL.COM writes:
> I just defoliated a Ficus nerifolia. As I was working I realized the tree
>
> is no doubt in need of repotting. Can this be done at the same time or do
> I
> need to wait after defoliation? If so, how long....until new leaves
> emerge?
> Thanks,
> Carol in Ft. Lauderdale, Zone 10
Repot now. Where you live you can do just about anything to F. nerifolia at
anytime.
Are you aware that the State Bonsai Conf. is this Friday, Saturday and Sunday
in Cape Canaveral about 2 1/2 hours north of you?
Billy on the Florida Space Coast
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#3: Re: [IBC] Defoliation & Repotting
Posted on 2005-06-28 14:24:02 by jklewis
OneBonsaiBabe@AOL.COM wrote:
> I just defoliated a ficus nerifolia. As I was working I realized the tree
> is no doubt in need of repotting. Can this be done at the same time or do I
> need to wait after defoliation? If so, how long....until new leaves emerge?
> Thanks,
> Carol in Ft. Lauderdale, Zone 10
>
I don't know that much about Ficus, but I never repot and
defoliate in the same year.
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#4: Re: [IBC] Defoliation & Repotting
Posted on 2005-06-28 17:46:15 by jharwood
At 08:51 PM 6/27/2005, OneBonsaiBabe@AOL.COM wrote:
>I just defoliated a ficus nerifolia. As I was working I realized the tree
>is no doubt in need of repotting. Can this be done at the same time or do I
>need to wait after defoliation? If so, how long....until new leaves emerge?
Carol,
No problem and this is a great time to do it
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#5: Re: [IBC] Rooting a Cutting from Fukien Tea
Posted on 2005-06-28 19:32:03 by macgyver1968
Hi all,
I have taken a small cutting from a Fukien Tea
(Carmona microphylla). Will cuttings of Fukien Tea's
root? If so, what suggestions on getting a successful
rooting would you suggest?
Keith
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#6: Bonsai philosophy
Posted on 2005-06-28 23:13:19 by GK
I was at a garden supply store the other day and asked if there were any
"bonsai clubs" in the area. I was told no, not to their knowledge,
although they gave me names of other garden centers that might have
information.
However, I was also told, "The problem with bonsais is, a bonsai is a
plant. And plants like to grow, and do not like small pots."
So, it sounded like there was something inherently wrong in keeping a
bonsai.
I have one bonsai currently. A Fukien Tea.
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#7: Re: [IBC] Bonsai philosophy
Posted on 2005-06-29 00:01:51 by pauline
If you give us a place, we can probably come up with the closest club.
There is NOTHING inherently wrong with bonsai...you just need to educate
yourself.
Here on the IBC and at local clubs and with ABS and BCI and lots of
people...we can help
Pauline Muth
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Subject: [IBC] Bonsai philosophy
I was at a garden supply store the other day and asked if there were any
"bonsai clubs" in the area. I was told no, not to their knowledge,
although they gave me names of other garden centers that might have
information.
However, I was also told, "The problem with bonsais is, a bonsai is a
plant. And plants like to grow, and do not like small pots."
So, it sounded like there was something inherently wrong in keeping a
bonsai.
I have one bonsai currently. A Fukien Tea.
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#8: Re: [IBC] Bonsai philosophy
Posted on 2005-06-29 00:42:38 by jklewis
GK wrote:
> I was at a garden supply store the other day and asked if there were any
> "bonsai clubs" in the area. I was told no, not to their knowledge,
> although they gave me names of other garden centers that might have
> information.
>
> However, I was also told, "The problem with bonsais is, a bonsai is a
> plant. And plants like to grow, and do not like small pots."
>
> So, it sounded like there was something inherently wrong in keeping a
> bonsai.
>
> I have one bonsai currently. A Fukien Tea.
That's not allowed.
You _must_ have more than one! It's the law!
That nursery seems like a great candidate for the bonsiests'
favorite trick: Go in, buy big, 6-foot tree with great
base, pay for it. Pull out Felco clippers, chop off top 5
feet. Leave with base in pot. :)
Jim Lewis - jklewis@nettally.com - Tallahassee, FL - People,
when Columbus discovered this country, it was plum full of
nuts and berries. And I'm right here to tell you (that) the
berries are just about all gone. -- Uncle Dave Macon, musician
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#9: Re: [IBC] Bonsai philosophy
Posted on 2005-06-29 00:50:26 by ccowing
On Jun 28, 2005, at 6:40 PM, Jim Lewis wrote:
> GK wrote:
>> I was at a garden supply store the other day and asked if there were
>> any "bonsai clubs" in the area. I was told no, not to their
>> knowledge, although they gave me names of other garden centers that
>> might have information.
>> However, I was also told, "The problem with bonsais is, a bonsai is a
>> plant. And plants like to grow, and do not like small pots."
>> So, it sounded like there was something inherently wrong in keeping a
>> bonsai.
>> I have one bonsai currently. A Fukien Tea.
>
> That's not allowed.
>
> You _must_ have more than one! It's the law!
>
> That nursery seems like a great candidate for the bonsiests' favorite
> trick: Go in, buy big, 6-foot tree with great base, pay for it. Pull
> out Felco clippers, chop off top 5 feet. Leave with base in pot. :)
>
> Jim Lewis - jklewis@nettally.com - Tallahassee, FL - People, when
> Columbus discovered this country, it was plum full of nuts and
> berries. And I'm right here to tell you (that) the berries are just
> about all gone. -- Uncle Dave Macon, musician
>
I think that's an excellent idea. Be sure the owner is watching. Leave
a little more than a foot--maybe 2 ft.
Craig Cowing
NY
Zone 5b/6a sunset 37
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#10: Re: [IBC] Bonsai philosophy
Posted on 2005-06-29 00:55:35 by jklewis
Craig Cowing wrote:
>
> On Jun 28, 2005, at 6:40 PM, Jim Lewis wrote:
>
>> GK wrote:
>>
>>> I was at a garden supply store the other day and asked if there were
>>> any "bonsai clubs" in the area. I was told no, not to their
>>> knowledge, although they gave me names of other garden centers that
>>> might have information.
>>> However, I was also told, "The problem with bonsais is, a bonsai is a
>>> plant. And plants like to grow, and do not like small pots."
>>> So, it sounded like there was something inherently wrong in keeping a
>>> bonsai.
>>> I have one bonsai currently. A Fukien Tea.
>>
>>
>> That's not allowed.
>>
>> You _must_ have more than one! It's the law!
>>
>> That nursery seems like a great candidate for the bonsiests' favorite
>> trick: Go in, buy big, 6-foot tree with great base, pay for it. Pull
>> out Felco clippers, chop off top 5 feet. Leave with base in pot. :)
>>
>> Jim Lewis - jklewis@nettally.com - Tallahassee, FL - People, when
>> Columbus discovered this country, it was plum full of nuts and
>> berries. And I'm right here to tell you (that) the berries are just
>> about all gone. -- Uncle Dave Macon, musician
>>
>
> I think that's an excellent idea. Be sure the owner is watching. Leave a
> little more than a foot--maybe 2 ft.
>
>
>
Too big, Craig.
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#11: Re: [IBC] Bonsai philosophy
Posted on 2005-06-29 01:27:47 by kits
I have done this! 10' olive in a 15 gal can. I had a
Triumph Spitfire at the time. It's a really nice
bonsai.
Kits
--- Jim Lewis <jklewis@NETTALLY.COM> wrote:
> Craig Cowing wrote:
> >
> > On Jun 28, 2005, at 6:40 PM, Jim Lewis wrote:
> >
> >> GK wrote:
> >>
> >>> I was at a garden supply store the other day and
> asked if there were
> >>> any "bonsai clubs" in the area. I was told
> no, not to their
> >>> knowledge, although they gave me names of other
> garden centers that
> >>> might have information.
> >>> However, I was also told, "The problem with
> bonsais is, a bonsai is a
> >>> plant. And plants like to grow, and do not like
> small pots."
> >>> So, it sounded like there was something
> inherently wrong in keeping a
> >>> bonsai.
> >>> I have one bonsai currently. A Fukien Tea.
> >>
> >>
> >> That's not allowed.
> >>
> >> You _must_ have more than one! It's the law!
> >>
> >> That nursery seems like a great candidate for the
> bonsiests' favorite
> >> trick: Go in, buy big, 6-foot tree with great
> base, pay for it. Pull
> >> out Felco clippers, chop off top 5 feet. Leave
> with base in pot. :)
> >>
> >> Jim Lewis - jklewis@nettally.com - Tallahassee,
> FL - People, when
> >> Columbus discovered this country, it was plum
> full of nuts and
> >> berries. And I'm right here to tell you (that)
> the berries are just
> >> about all gone. -- Uncle Dave Macon, musician
> >>
> >
> > I think that's an excellent idea. Be sure the
> owner is watching. Leave a
> > little more than a foot--maybe 2 ft.
> >
> >
> >
> Too big, Craig.
>
> Jim Lewis - jklewis@nettally.com - Hit THINK before
> you hit SEND
>
>
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#12: Re: [IBC] Bonsai philosophy
Posted on 2005-06-29 02:46:53 by SteveWachs
If he was xorrect there would be no Bonsai. Obvioulsy a tree will adjust to it's environment, with assistance
SteveW
Long Island NY
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Subject: [IBC] Bonsai philosophy
I was at a garden supply store the other day and asked if there were any
"bonsai clubs" in the area. I was told no, not to their knowledge,
although they gave me names of other garden centers that might have
information.
However, I was also told, "The problem with bonsais is, a bonsai is a
plant. And plants like to grow, and do not like small pots."
So, it sounded like there was something inherently wrong in keeping a
bonsai.
I have one bonsai currently. A Fukien Tea.
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#13: Re: [IBC] Bonsai philosophy
Posted on 2005-06-29 03:39:01 by awbonsai
Yeah, you need more than one bonsai. Otherwise, you're at
high risk of loving your bonsai to death.
As for bonsai not "liking" small pots, I know of no
convincing evidence that plants are sentient and "like" or
"dislike" anything. They do respond to their environment,
however, and container culture requires some horticultural skills
to be successful. I doubt that the nursery where you heard that
comment had any plants which were not growing in containers.
Bonsai isn't for the lazy; that is true. Bonsai is a
responsibility, but less work or skill is involved than
maintaining a pet. It's not hard or mystical. There is a logic to
the care and design of bonsai. Some people seem to have innate
talents, both artistic and horticultural, but it's not rocket
science. Anyone can learn how to create and maintain bonsai with
a little commitment.
If you'll share where you live, we can point you to the
nearest bonsai club(s).
Alan Walker
http://bonsai-bci.com http://LCBSBonsai.org
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I was at a garden supply store the other day and asked if
there were any "bonsai clubs" in the area. I was told no, not to
their knowledge, although they gave me names of other garden
centers that might have information.
However, I was also told, "The problem with bonsais is, a
bonsai is a plant. And plants like to grow, and do not like
small pots." So, it sounded like there was something inherently
wrong in keeping a
bonsai.
I have one bonsai currently. A Fukien Tea.
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#14: Re: [IBC] Rooting a Cutting from Fukien Tea
Posted on 2005-06-29 03:40:09 by jharwood
At 12:32 PM 6/28/2005, K S wrote:
>I have taken a small cutting from a Fukien Tea
>(Carmona microphylla). Will cuttings of Fukien Tea's
>root? If so, what suggestions on getting a successful
>rooting would you suggest?
>
>Keith,
Fukien Tea root very easily with minimal care. I dip the bottom in
"Rootone" or equivalent and insert in a mix of equal parts perlite and
vermiculite, water and sit in my greenhouse out of direct sun. I seldom
have a failure.
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#15: Re: [IBC] Bonsai philosophy
Posted on 2005-06-29 03:55:41 by ccowing
On Jun 28, 2005, at 6:53 PM, Jim Lewis wrote:
> Craig Cowing wrote:
>>>
>> I think that's an excellent idea. Be sure the owner is watching.
>> Leave a little more than a foot--maybe 2 ft.
> Too big, Craig.
>
> Jim Lewis - jklewis@nettally.com - Hit THINK before you hit SEND
>
Fooey and fiddlesticks!! ;0)
Craig Cowing
NY
Zone 5b/6a
Sunset 37
>
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#16: Re: [IBC] Bonsai philosophy
Posted on 2005-06-29 14:05:32 by GK
Alan Walker wrote:
> Yeah, you need more than one bonsai. Otherwise, you're at
> high risk of loving your bonsai to death.
> As for bonsai not "liking" small pots, I know of no
> convincing evidence that plants are sentient and "like" or
> "dislike" anything. They do respond to their environment,
> however, and container culture requires some horticultural skills
> to be successful. I doubt that the nursery where you heard that
> comment had any plants which were not growing in containers.
> Bonsai isn't for the lazy; that is true. Bonsai is a
> responsibility, but less work or skill is involved than
> maintaining a pet. It's not hard or mystical. There is a logic to
> the care and design of bonsai. Some people seem to have innate
> talents, both artistic and horticultural, but it's not rocket
> science. Anyone can learn how to create and maintain bonsai with
> a little commitment.
> If you'll share where you live, we can point you to the
> nearest bonsai club(s).
> Alan Walker
> http://bonsai-bci.com http://LCBSBonsai.org
>
> -----Original Message-----
> I was at a garden supply store the other day and asked if
> there were any "bonsai clubs" in the area. I was told no, not to
> their knowledge, although they gave me names of other garden
> centers that might have information.
> However, I was also told, "The problem with bonsais is, a
> bonsai is a plant. And plants like to grow, and do not like
> small pots." So, it sounded like there was something inherently
> wrong in keeping a
> bonsai.
> I have one bonsai currently. A Fukien Tea.
>
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Thank you for the replies. I'm really tempted to go in and get that 6
ft. tree. :)
I live in Park Forest, IL, 60466, USA. If anyone can find a club closer
than what I've been able to find - ca. 30+ miles away from me, I'd
appreciate it.
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address, it is "munged" to cut down on spambots. Just remove "nospm."
Many people do that. Maybe you should too.
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#17: Re: [IBC] Bonsai philosophy
Posted on 2005-06-29 17:51:04 by kits
My isp provides a spam filter. I understnd there are
other types of spam filters out there as well.
Kits
--- GK <frodo@AMERINOSPMTECH.NET> wrote:
> To my wonderfully patient friend who was not able to
> figure out my email
> address, it is "munged" to cut down on spambots.
> Just remove "nospm."
> Many people do that. Maybe you should too.
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#18: Re: [IBC] Bonsai philosophy
Posted on 2005-06-29 21:29:29 by jklewis
Kitsune Miko wrote:
> My isp provides a spam filter. I understnd there are
> other types of spam filters out there as well.
>
> Kits
>
> --- GK <frodo@AMERINOSPMTECH.NET> wrote:
>
>
>>To my wonderfully patient friend who was not able to
>>figure out my email
>>address, it is "munged" to cut down on spambots.
>>Just remove "nospm."
>>Many people do that. Maybe you should too.
>
>
>
And the best of them are free. In fact, the commercial
products (Mcaffee, Norton, et. al. consistently do poorly in
tests.
I too don't bother to unscramble addresses. Especially if
someone writes the list asking for my assistance. It's just
damn pooor manners.
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#19: Re: Bonsai philosophy
Posted on 2005-06-30 08:22:31 by Tiziano
GK wrote:
> However, I was also told, "The problem with bonsais is, a bonsai is a
> plant. And plants like to grow, and do not like small pots."
>
> So, it sounded like there was something inherently wrong in keeping a
> bonsai.
>
> I have one bonsai currently. A Fukien Tea.
some people that knows nothing about bonsai assume that we
are tourturing them in fact we apply the laws af nature in
the best moments
the result is that very often a tree lives far beyond his
natural span of life ..in a pot
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