#1: Re: [IBC] Organic feeding cakes
Posted on 2005-08-12 04:40:15 by iasnob
In a message dated 8/11/2005 2:57:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,
kits@PACBELL.NET writes:
If you grow pines for bonsai the book is a worthwhile investment.
Kits
John Dhom <dhominator@DHOM.NET> wrote:
thx info. I'll just use an alternative as I can't afford to buy a book just
for this receipe :(
Best,
John
John:
Please do not buy the book for a cake recipe: the recipe follows. However,
if you are seeking a solid reference work on how to develop Japanese white
and black pine, I would welcome the purchase. );-) Kitsune, I appreciate the
kind remark.
If you have any questions about the cakes, please contact me. Be certain to
use a FAST DRAINING SOIL. You will have remarkable root mass development,
so you will need to more frequently repot your trees. The cakes should be
applied to immature bonsai, bonsai that have yet to achieve their design
objectives. After developing sufficient growth to support your design, I would
suggest migrating to a liquid fertilizers.
Those of you who are using these cakes with pines should consider potting
you trees in Akadama. The results will be outstanding.
Superfeeding cake recipe:
* 3 parts cottonseed meal (acidic)
* 2 parts garden lime (alkaline)
* 1 part blood meal (nitrogen and iron)
* 1 part bone meal (phosphorus) *
* Mixing solution of full-strength Schultz 20-30-20 and water
* Fish emulsion-5 ounces for every 5 pounds of dry ingredients
* A splash of Sevin (for insecticidal purposes)
Procedure for making Superfeeding cakes:
1. Mix the first four ingredients
2. Add all of the liquids to the dry ingredients except the Sevin until
the consistency of cooked oatmeal is reached.
3. Wearing a pair of gloves, add the Sevin to the mixture.
4. Spread the fertilizer over an aluminum foil-covered wire rack or
flat tray, cut the fertilizer into 1.5-inch squares with the moistened length of
a paint stirrer, and set the scored rack in the sun to dry.
5. Once the cakes have completely dried, snap the squares away and
place them in a container for future use. The cakes will keep for many years if
they are kept dry.
Part = a dry cup measure
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#2: Re: [IBC] Organic feeding cakes
Posted on 2005-08-12 17:32:12 by dalecochoy
Mike,
I had a few comments/ideas.
I always wondered about using the full strength Shutz in the slow release
fertilizer cake recipe?? Seems, redundent and cross purpose?
I USED TO ad liquid kelp/seaweed ( the most expensive ingrediant) but now ad
KELP MEAL, costs a little less but gives more bulk which liquid doesn't.
5lb. meal means 5 lb. more cakes.
Also, I always liked adding that Alaske brand Upstart stuff w/B1 to the mix,
it's made from Molasses.
Also, as I mention in my recipe I published, I don't use the sevin. I never
really had a maggot problem ( they wouldn't hurt/bother me anyway) but My
DOGS just love the cakes! Ummm Good! So I'd be afraid to have it in them if
pets and reachable bonsai.
I pat mine out in old hospital cafeteria trays about 1/2" deep and use
saran wrap on the tray. Just spritz a fine mist on tray and lay wrap on it
and it sticks and won't move. I pull it off with first "Flip". And I use a
pizza cutter to quickly/easily cut them.
Another note, they dry too slow if done when rainy period and/or too humid
and can mold pretty quick ( which doesn't hurt them one bit but people
seemed bothered by the loks) so I make them when I have about 4 days knowing
it will be warm/hot, low humidity with no rain.
I dry mine in my unused greenhouse during summer. Had some trouble with
racoons getting in the 25 or so trays if I left the doors open. They LOVE
that fish emulsion.!!Found the cure for that, I put a radio out there and
let play all night low so neighbors don't hear. No more racoons.
Hope this helps folks,
Dale
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Persiano" <IASNOB@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: [IBC] Organic feeding cakes
> Superfeeding cake recipe:
>
> * 3 parts cottonseed meal (acidic)
> * 2 parts garden lime (alkaline)
> * 1 part blood meal (nitrogen and iron)
> * 1 part bone meal (phosphorus) *
> * Mixing solution of full-strength Schultz 20-30-20 and water
> * Fish emulsion-5 ounces for every 5 pounds of dry ingredients
> * A splash of Sevin (for insecticidal purposes)
> Procedure for making Superfeeding cakes:
> 1. Mix the first four ingredients
> 2. Add all of the liquids to the dry ingredients except the Sevin
until
> the consistency of cooked oatmeal is reached.
> 3. Wearing a pair of gloves, add the Sevin to the mixture.
> 4. Spread the fertilizer over an aluminum foil-covered wire rack or
> flat tray, cut the fertilizer into 1.5-inch squares with the moistened
length of
> a paint stirrer, and set the scored rack in the sun to dry.
> 5. Once the cakes have completely dried, snap the squares away and
> place them in a container for future use. The cakes will keep for many
years if
> they are kept dry.
> Part = a dry cup measure
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