#1: Re: [IBC] Prunus Mume
Posted on 2005-08-20 13:22:14 by iasnob
In a message dated 8/19/2005 9:21:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, IrisCohen
writes:
<<The foliage can be managed during hot weather by both shading the tree and
pinching away damaged leaves.>>
Not around here. You are closer to the coast, where the humidity is higher.
In central NY, although we don't have quite as much heat, summer weather can
be extremely dry & windy. We are on the edge of the Continental climate. The
apricot did not have any undamaged leaves. By midsummer, the tree was a mess.
Besides, it never bloomed (it was seed-grown) and was subject to borers. I
sold it at the club auction & haven't seen it since. I haven't seen any Prunus
mume in the Rochester or Mid-Atlantic shows. Somebody in Rochester has a
gorgeous Hally Jolivette, & you occasionally see other flowering cherries, so we
are not deprived.
Iris
Iris:
No matter where the tree is grown, Prunue mume will be a challenge for the
most experienced of practitioners. The conspicuous absence of Prunus mume is
easily explained: they cannot be legal imported into the US, and they were
quite costly when entry was legal (many years ago).
For those who work with Prunus mume, a sustained feeding program will help
the tree to tolerate summer heat and Sahara-like winds. Shade and wind
shielding during these periods will mitigate leaf damage; however, the tree can be
completely defoliated in mid-to-late spring.
Cordially,
Michael Persiano
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#2: Re: [IBC] Prunus Mume
Posted on 2005-08-20 17:29:56 by kevbailey111
When I suggested Prunus mume, I was going on my experience, which admittedly
only takes in Japan and the UK. I have also read this though:
"Although a rare tree in the trade, Prunus mume is by no means impossible to
find. Several good cultivars are available. W.B. Clarke, an American
hybridizer, named three of the most readily available to American gardeners.
'Peggy Clarke' is a double-flowering cultivar with rose-pink petals crowned
with a bright red calyx. 'Rosemary Clarke', a particularly early
double-flowered bloomer, is white with a red calyx, and 'W.B. Clarke' is a
graceful weeping form with double pink flowers.
Particularly unusual and hard-to-find is the contorted form, Prunus mume
'Contorta'. Although there are many Japanese varieties in cultivation, in
this country 'Kobai', with deep red semi-double flowers, is probably the
least difficult to find. The species itself, with single flowers and a color
range from white to pink, is the most readily available in American
nurseries." In a very good article I found on the web from Plants & Gardens
News Volume 10, Number 4 | Winter 1995 by T. Meghan Ray
You can see the whole article here if you are interested.
http://www.bbg.org/gar2/topics/plants/1995wi_midwinter.html
I thought that if it is a recommended garden plant in the USA it should be
doable as bonsai, given the right treatment. It is certainly worth the
effort, in my estimation. I'll try to post some pics of flowering ones from
Japan last February on the gallery later.
Cheers
Kev Bailey
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#3: Re: [IBC] Prunus Mume
Posted on 2005-08-20 19:39:23 by Tiziano
Michael Persiano wrote:
> Not around here. You are closer to the coast, where the humidity is higher.
> In central NY, although we don't have quite as much heat, summer weather can
> be extremely dry & windy. We are on the edge of the Continental climate. The
> apricot did not have any undamaged leaves. By midsummer, the tree was a mess.
> Besides, it never bloomed (it was seed-grown) and was subject to borers. I
> sold it at the club auction & haven't seen it since. I haven't seen any Prunus
> mume in the Rochester or Mid-Atlantic shows. Somebody in Rochester has a
> gorgeous Hally Jolivette, & you occasionally see other flowering cherries, so we
> are not deprived.
> Iris
I agree with Michael
I have mine since 15 years about and is fine
and bloom every year
in between Xristmas to St Valentine
It needs a lot of vaporization on blossoms when
growing in december & not be taken inside
otherwise will wither
Mine has been severy damaged this last july
after defoliation ,when new leaves formed a and
hail detroyed the plum to 2/3
some little twig survived probably will have no
blossoms this winther
I live in zone 7
greetings
Tiziano
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