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#1: Drooping buds

Posted on 2006-05-25 20:54:18 by Dutchboy

Hi all,

I have a new rose bush that have drooping buds. Once they get big, they
just droop over. Another bush nearby does not have that problem.
Another rose bush was in that spot for a number of years and had the
same problem. What could be causing this to two separate rose bushes?

Thanks,

Dutchboy

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#2: Re: Drooping buds

Posted on 2006-05-25 21:54:21 by Snooze

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&gt;
&gt; I have a new rose bush that have drooping buds. Once they get big, they
&gt; just droop over. Another bush nearby does not have that problem. Another
&gt; rose bush was in that spot for a number of years and had the same problem.
&gt; What could be causing this to two separate rose bushes?

Check the soil in that area, i suspect it's probably not getting enough
water. Look at the buds early in the morning. If they're upright, then droop
in the afternoon, it's probably lack of water. Consider adding a drip
irrigation system near that rose to help it get sufficient water.

Consider adding mulch or compost to help keep the soil moist.

-S

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#3: Re: Drooping buds

Posted on 2006-05-25 22:29:21 by Dutchboy

Snooze wrote:
&gt; &quot;Dutchboy&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:db&#64;nowhere.com" target="_blank">db&#64;nowhere.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt; news:<a href="mailto:1148583261.809366&#64;news1nwk..." target="_blank">1148583261.809366&#64;news1nwk...</a>
&gt;&gt; I have a new rose bush that have drooping buds. Once they get big, they
&gt;&gt; just droop over. Another bush nearby does not have that problem. Another
&gt;&gt; rose bush was in that spot for a number of years and had the same problem.
&gt;&gt; What could be causing this to two separate rose bushes?
&gt;
&gt; Check the soil in that area, i suspect it's probably not getting enough
&gt; water. Look at the buds early in the morning. If they're upright, then droop
&gt; in the afternoon, it's probably lack of water. Consider adding a drip
&gt; irrigation system near that rose to help it get sufficient water.
&gt;
&gt; Consider adding mulch or compost to help keep the soil moist.
&gt;
&gt; -S
&gt;
&gt;
Water's not the problem. There's a pop-up sprinkler next to it. The
buds droop when it has been raining or not. The ground is not water
logged. There is a tree bush 4 feet away and is fine. The only
difference is that there is a small tree near it (Chinese Elm I think).
It does not block the sun. I have added rose food. Someone at my
wife's work suggested coffee grounds, I'll try that tonight.

TiA,

-DB

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#4: Re: Drooping buds

Posted on 2006-05-26 01:25:26 by Boron Elgar

On Thu, 25 May 2006 13:29:21 -0700, Dutchboy &lt;<a href="mailto:db&#64;nowhere.com" target="_blank">db&#64;nowhere.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;Snooze wrote:
&gt;&gt; &quot;Dutchboy&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:db&#64;nowhere.com" target="_blank">db&#64;nowhere.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt;&gt; news:<a href="mailto:1148583261.809366&#64;news1nwk..." target="_blank">1148583261.809366&#64;news1nwk...</a>
&gt;&gt;&gt; I have a new rose bush that have drooping buds. Once they get big, they
&gt;&gt;&gt; just droop over. Another bush nearby does not have that problem. Another
&gt;&gt;&gt; rose bush was in that spot for a number of years and had the same problem.
&gt;&gt;&gt; What could be causing this to two separate rose bushes?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Check the soil in that area, i suspect it's probably not getting enough
&gt;&gt; water. Look at the buds early in the morning. If they're upright, then droop
&gt;&gt; in the afternoon, it's probably lack of water. Consider adding a drip
&gt;&gt; irrigation system near that rose to help it get sufficient water.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Consider adding mulch or compost to help keep the soil moist.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; -S
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;Water's not the problem. There's a pop-up sprinkler next to it. The
&gt;buds droop when it has been raining or not. The ground is not water
&gt;logged. There is a tree bush 4 feet away and is fine. The only
&gt;difference is that there is a small tree near it (Chinese Elm I think).
&gt; It does not block the sun. I have added rose food. Someone at my
&gt;wife's work suggested coffee grounds, I'll try that tonight.
&gt;
&gt;TiA,
&gt;
&gt;-DB


Check for aphids. They can be so small as to be unnoticeable. I walked
up to one of my bushed in full bud just this evening and noticed a
bent over, almost drooping bud. They have been treated.

Boron

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#5: Re: Drooping buds

Posted on 2006-05-27 14:59:27 by elsie

Hi Dutchboy, seeing you had another rose in the same spot for a number
of years with the same problem, and another bush nearby doesn't have
the problem, I'd suggest that it has something to do with the immediate
environment it's in. You say that it can't be a lack of water because
there's a pop-up sprinkler next to it, and it's not waterlogged -
you've definitely done a check that it wasn't waterlogged by digging
down at least a foot to check? Also while you were there, did you
notice any roots from the tree that is next to it, encroaching in this
rose's growing space? Roots of established trees have a tendency to
vigorously invade a new planting area and starve the new plant of
water/nutients at the expense of your rose - maybe that's what happened
to the other rose too. How big is the tree next to it (Elm) and how
close is it to the rose? That's one thing to think about. Here are a
few other things to ponder - when you planted it you applied firm
pressure to get rid of any air pockets, you planted at the correct
depth, you didn't add any manure at planting time, the roots didn't dry
out at planting time, drainage is adequate. Just a few things to think
about, though my bet is the roots of the tree are starving your rose.
Hope this helps, Regards Elsie

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#6: Re: Drooping buds

Posted on 2006-06-16 19:07:11 by Dutchboy

Boron Elgar wrote:
&gt; On Thu, 25 May 2006 13:29:21 -0700, Dutchboy &lt;<a href="mailto:db&#64;nowhere.com" target="_blank">db&#64;nowhere.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Snooze wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt; &quot;Dutchboy&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:db&#64;nowhere.com" target="_blank">db&#64;nowhere.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt;&gt;&gt; news:<a href="mailto:1148583261.809366&#64;news1nwk..." target="_blank">1148583261.809366&#64;news1nwk...</a>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I have a new rose bush that have drooping buds. Once they get big, they
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; just droop over. Another bush nearby does not have that problem. Another
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; rose bush was in that spot for a number of years and had the same problem.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; What could be causing this to two separate rose bushes?
&gt;&gt;&gt; Check the soil in that area, i suspect it's probably not getting enough
&gt;&gt;&gt; water. Look at the buds early in the morning. If they're upright, then droop
&gt;&gt;&gt; in the afternoon, it's probably lack of water. Consider adding a drip
&gt;&gt;&gt; irrigation system near that rose to help it get sufficient water.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Consider adding mulch or compost to help keep the soil moist.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; -S
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Water's not the problem. There's a pop-up sprinkler next to it. The
&gt;&gt; buds droop when it has been raining or not. The ground is not water
&gt;&gt; logged. There is a tree bush 4 feet away and is fine. The only
&gt;&gt; difference is that there is a small tree near it (Chinese Elm I think).
&gt;&gt; It does not block the sun. I have added rose food. Someone at my
&gt;&gt; wife's work suggested coffee grounds, I'll try that tonight.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; TiA,
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; -DB
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Check for aphids. They can be so small as to be unnoticeable. I walked
&gt; up to one of my bushed in full bud just this evening and noticed a
&gt; bent over, almost drooping bud. They have been treated.
&gt;
&gt; Boron

No aphids. A friend at work suggested coffee grounds. I stopped by my
local Starbucks on the way homw and picked up a bag of used coffee
grounds and spread about 2 cups around the base rose bush. That seemed
to perk it right up! There are a bunch of buds. None are too big right
now so we'll see if it really helped.

-DB

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