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#1: Silly Bradford Pear Tree

Posted on 2006-07-22 16:19:05 by windswept

He's an ornamental, not supposed to bear fruit, 15 ft. tall and skinny
because he doesn't get sufficient light. So this year, there are 13
good-sized pears.

Meanwhile, the 50-ft., bushy Bartlett pear tree I grew from seed in
1979, doesn't have many more pears, if any more, as far as I can tell,
from ground level.

Who can figure silly flora.

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#2: Re: Silly Bradford Pear Tree

Posted on 2006-07-22 16:56:47 by George Shirley

Jack W wrote:
> He's an ornamental, not supposed to bear fruit, 15 ft. tall and skinny
> because he doesn't get sufficient light. So this year, there are 13
> good-sized pears.
>
> Meanwhile, the 50-ft., bushy Bartlett pear tree I grew from seed in
> 1979, doesn't have many more pears, if any more, as far as I can tell,
> from ground level.
>
> Who can figure silly flora.
>
>

Shortly after Hurricane Rita hit our area last year all of my fruit
trees bloomed for the second time and then set fruit. None of it matured
of course. The local MacDonald's has Bradford pears planted all around
it for decoration and they all bloomed last fall and set fruit and then
it all dropped. Made the owner mad with all that fruit on the ground,
making a mess, so he had them all cut down. Flora and fauna act
strangely when stressed.

George

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#3: Re: Silly Bradford Pear Tree

Posted on 2006-07-22 20:11:00 by windswept

> The local MacDonald's has Bradford pears planted all around
>it for decoration and they all bloomed last fall and set fruit and then
>it all dropped. Made the owner mad with all that fruit on the ground,
>making a mess, so he had them all cut down.

The Bradford was the ornamental tree of the future, developed just a
few miles south of here. It was supposedly disease/insect resistant,
no messy fruit, nice compact shape ...

However, as time has gone by, residents here have found that it is for
the most part brittle in wind.

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#4: Re: Silly Bradford Pear Tree

Posted on 2006-07-22 22:50:47 by George Shirley

Jack W wrote:

>>The local MacDonald's has Bradford pears planted all around
>>it for decoration and they all bloomed last fall and set fruit and then
>>it all dropped. Made the owner mad with all that fruit on the ground,
>>making a mess, so he had them all cut down.
>
>
> The Bradford was the ornamental tree of the future, developed just a
> few miles south of here. It was supposedly disease/insect resistant,
> no messy fruit, nice compact shape ...
>
> However, as time has gone by, residents here have found that it is for
> the most part brittle in wind.

That's why we don't have any. We often get winds up to 50 mph and the
Bradfords generally just snap off. Same with the ornamental plums people
plant around here. Got enough trouble with the pine trees snapping off
about 40 feet up and falling during hurricanes. Even oaks are brittle
around here, no tap roots. Only trees that didn't blow over during Rita
were those useless sweet gums.

George

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#5: Re: Silly Bradford Pear Tree

Posted on 2006-07-23 00:24:59 by Phisherman

On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 15:50:47 -0500, George Shirley
&lt;<a href="mailto:gshirl&#64;bellsouth.net" target="_blank">gshirl&#64;bellsouth.net</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;Jack W wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;The local MacDonald's has Bradford pears planted all around
&gt;&gt;&gt;it for decoration and they all bloomed last fall and set fruit and then
&gt;&gt;&gt;it all dropped. Made the owner mad with all that fruit on the ground,
&gt;&gt;&gt;making a mess, so he had them all cut down.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; The Bradford was the ornamental tree of the future, developed just a
&gt;&gt; few miles south of here. It was supposedly disease/insect resistant,
&gt;&gt; no messy fruit, nice compact shape ...
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; However, as time has gone by, residents here have found that it is for
&gt;&gt; the most part brittle in wind.
&gt;
&gt;That's why we don't have any. We often get winds up to 50 mph and the
&gt;Bradfords generally just snap off. Same with the ornamental plums people
&gt;plant around here. Got enough trouble with the pine trees snapping off
&gt;about 40 feet up and falling during hurricanes. Even oaks are brittle
&gt;around here, no tap roots. Only trees that didn't blow over during Rita
&gt;were those useless sweet gums.
&gt;
&gt;George

I dislike the Bradford pear trees and that tree is the most popular
tree planted in my town. They grow fast, spread, and easily break
during storms. In bloom they look nice from a distance but the odor
is horrible. I have a 60-foot sweet gum tree next to my house--gives
shade, stops erosion, very strong, and virtually disease free. The
&quot;sweet gum balls&quot; can be annoying because their are thousands of them,
but I use the prickly balls in the flowerbeds on top of the
mulch--cats avoid my flower beds!

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#6: Re: Silly Bradford Pear Tree

Posted on 2006-07-23 01:52:58 by treeman214

Lots of tree info here:

--
Please consider adding some links to your sites.

1. Techno Tree Biology Dictionary
<a href="http://www.treedictionary.com" target="_blank">http://www.treedictionary.com</a> . Look up &quot;logging&quot;.

2. Articles written by DR. ALEX L. SHIGO, one of the foremost authorities
worldwide on tree systems today online at
<a href="http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/index.html</a>

3. Literature Available by Dr. Shigo is here:
<a href="http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/treeinfo.html" target="_blank">http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/treeinfo.html</a>

4. Hard to get Documents
<a href="http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/hardtoget/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/hardtoget/index.html</a>


If you have any suggestions please let me know. 610-864-5251

John A. Keslick, Jr.
Tree Biologist
<a href="http://mercury.ccil.org/~treeman/" target="_blank">http://mercury.ccil.org/~treeman/</a>
Beware of so-called TREE EXPERTS who do not understand TREE BIOLOGY!
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.

&quot;Jack W&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:windswept&#64;home.net" target="_blank">windswept&#64;home.net</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt; He's an ornamental, not supposed to bear fruit, 15 ft. tall and skinny
&gt; because he doesn't get sufficient light. So this year, there are 13
&gt; good-sized pears.
&gt;
&gt; Meanwhile, the 50-ft., bushy Bartlett pear tree I grew from seed in
&gt; 1979, doesn't have many more pears, if any more, as far as I can tell,
&gt; from ground level.
&gt;
&gt; Who can figure silly flora.
&gt;
&gt;

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#7: Re: Silly Bradford Pear Tree

Posted on 2006-07-23 14:43:56 by windswept

&gt;The
&gt;&quot;sweet gum balls&quot; can be annoying because their are thousands of them,
&gt;but I use the prickly balls in the flowerbeds on top of the
&gt;mulch--cats avoid my flower beds!

Oh man, I haven't seen a sweet gum ball since 1959. Friend's family
owned a shore in the midst of a sweet gum &quot;forest&quot; on the Patapsco.
Sweet gums apparently like moist soil. That's the only place I've
ever seen them.

Naturally, we spent the days in bathing suits and no shoes.

OUCH! Painful but pleasant memories from the distant past.

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#8: Re: Silly Bradford Pear Tree

Posted on 2006-07-23 14:44:01 by windswept

&gt;Lots of tree info here:

&gt;--
&gt;Please consider adding some links to your sites.

&gt;Dr. Alex Shigo

I have a book by Shigo as well as Pirone et al. and they were very
helpful in the choosing, planting, and maintaining of trees. Planted
about 1,000 over an eight-year-period, mostly west and northwest for a
multi-rowed windbreak.

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#9: Re: Silly Bradford Pear Tree

Posted on 2006-07-23 15:37:50 by George Shirley

Jack W wrote:
&gt;&gt;The
&gt;&gt;&quot;sweet gum balls&quot; can be annoying because their are thousands of them,
&gt;&gt;but I use the prickly balls in the flowerbeds on top of the
&gt;&gt;mulch--cats avoid my flower beds!
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Oh man, I haven't seen a sweet gum ball since 1959. Friend's family
&gt; owned a shore in the midst of a sweet gum &quot;forest&quot; on the Patapsco.
&gt; Sweet gums apparently like moist soil. That's the only place I've
&gt; ever seen them.
&gt;
&gt; Naturally, we spent the days in bathing suits and no shoes.
&gt;
&gt; OUCH! Painful but pleasant memories from the distant past.

You can have the one that grows in my neighbors yard and drops it's
&quot;fruit&quot; in my yard if you'll come and get it. Alternatively I can
arrange to send you a big box of the spiked balls next time I rake them.
Even the dog dislikes the damned things. &lt;BSEG&gt;

George

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