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#1: water butts and rain savers

Posted on 2006-07-23 16:40:49 by unknown

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#2: Re: water butts and rain savers

Posted on 2006-07-23 17:05:08 by uce

In message &lt;<a href="mailto:ne27c2lptm8k0gt2ocdf1lvfqacqk8k2b4&#64;4ax.com" target="_blank">ne27c2lptm8k0gt2ocdf1lvfqacqk8k2b4&#64;4ax.com</a>&gt;,
<a href="mailto:nospam&#64;nospam.org" target="_blank">nospam&#64;nospam.org</a> writes
&gt;
&gt;Are these rain water diverters that attach your water butt to a drain
&gt;pipe any good?
&gt;

Mine works now that I've refitted it in the right place.

The diverter needs to be level with the highest water surface you want
in the butt, not 18&quot; above the butt where most people seem to put them!
They have an extra virtue: they don't require a hole in the cover over
your butt, so you don't get mosquitoes breeding in the water.

&gt;I can see they would be good in light rain, but wouldn't they get
&gt;overwhelmed in heavy rain?

Unless you've got a large roof area feeding a chain of several butts,
this is not a problem. A storm heavy enough to overwhelm the diverter
will fill one butt to overflowing anyaway.
&gt;
&gt;Also, what if there is a junction in the drain pipe above? Would the
&gt;water fall from the junction at an angle and free fall rather than go
&gt;down the side of the pipe into the rain saver?
&gt;
A production engineer tells me that if you've found a way to get liquids
to fall down a pipe without touching the sides you should contact her
immediately and not talk about it in the meantime.
(ie, in practice this is not a problem)

--
Sue ];(:)

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#3: Re: water butts and rain savers

Posted on 2006-07-23 17:09:42 by Mary Fisher

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&gt; Hello,
&gt;
&gt; Are these rain water diverters that attach your water butt to a drain
&gt; pipe any good?

They are excellent.
&gt;
&gt; I can see they would be good in light rain, but wouldn't they get
&gt; overwhelmed in heavy rain?

Not until the butt is full. The answer is to have two or more butts attached
to each other.
&gt;
&gt; Also, what if there is a junction in the drain pipe above? Would the
&gt; water fall from the junction at an angle and free fall rather than go
&gt; down the side of the pipe into the rain saver?

I don't understand that.

Mary

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#4: Re: water butts and rain savers

Posted on 2006-07-23 18:29:44 by Eleni

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&gt; Not until the butt is full. The answer is to have two or more butts
&gt; attached to each other.
&gt;
&gt; Mary

I'm thinking of attaching a second butt, but at what level should the
connecting pipe be? Forgive me if it's a stupid question!

Thanks, Eleni.

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#5: Re: water butts and rain savers

Posted on 2006-07-23 19:43:06 by Jeanne Stockdale

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&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Not until the butt is full. The answer is to have two or more butts
&gt;&gt; attached to each other.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Mary
&gt;
&gt; I'm thinking of attaching a second butt, but at what level should the
&gt; connecting pipe be? Forgive me if it's a stupid question!
&gt;
&gt; Thanks, Eleni.
I have a battery of three and they connect at the bottom so the water is at
the same level in all three.
Water can either be drawn off from the singe tap at the bottom or be dipping
a can into any butt.
Connecting at any other position will cause problems.

Pete
www.thecanalshop.com

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#6: Re: water butts and rain savers

Posted on 2006-07-23 19:48:19 by Jeanne Stockdale

singe tap - corr - sb single
p

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#7: Re: water butts and rain savers

Posted on 2006-07-23 20:56:55 by Mary Fisher

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&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Not until the butt is full. The answer is to have two or more butts
&gt;&gt; attached to each other.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Mary
&gt;
&gt; I'm thinking of attaching a second butt, but at what level should the
&gt; connecting pipe be? Forgive me if it's a stupid question!
&gt;
&gt; Thanks, Eleni.

The instructions come with the butt. Ours is at the top, they might be
different in different designs.

Mary
&gt;
&gt;

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#8: Re: water butts and rain savers

Posted on 2006-07-23 22:14:13 by Jeanne Stockdale

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&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Not until the butt is full. The answer is to have two or more butts
&gt;&gt;&gt; attached to each other.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Mary
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; I'm thinking of attaching a second butt, but at what level should the
&gt;&gt; connecting pipe be? Forgive me if it's a stupid question!
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Thanks, Eleni.
&gt;
&gt; The instructions come with the butt. Ours is at the top, they might be
&gt; different in different designs.
&gt;
&gt; Mary


A butt is a butt - I cannot see how there can be different designs
affecting different connection positions.

Pete
www.thecanalshop.com

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#9: Re: water butts and rain savers

Posted on 2006-07-23 22:18:19 by Mary Fisher

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&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; The instructions come with the butt. Ours is at the top, they might be
&gt;&gt; different in different designs.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Mary
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; A butt is a butt - I cannot see how there can be different designs
&gt; affecting different connection positions.

It depends what you want. Our second butt stays full when the first is
empty - they have individual taps. It's very convenient to have independent
butts.

Mary

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#10: Re: water butts and rain savers

Posted on 2006-07-23 23:05:20 by Rolyata

Mary Fisher &lt;<a href="mailto:mary.fisher&#64;zetnet.co.uk" target="_blank">mary.fisher&#64;zetnet.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:

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&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; The instructions come with the butt. Ours is at the top, they might be
&gt; &gt;&gt; different in different designs.
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; Mary
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; A butt is a butt - I cannot see how there can be different designs
&gt; &gt; affecting different connection positions.
&gt;
&gt; It depends what you want. Our second butt stays full when the first is
&gt; empty - they have individual taps. It's very convenient to have independent
&gt; butts.
&gt;

I prefer that the common connection is at the high level rather than the
low level.

Most of the time they work the same and there's no difference, but if
somebody leaves the tap running and forgets to turn it off, you only
lose one butt full of water instead of the whoile lot.

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