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#1: Request for the group...

Posted on 2006-07-21 03:35:16 by Ray

....and maybe a bit anal, but...

Please configure your newsgroup client to add your response ABOVE the quoted
message.

When I have been following a thread, it's a PITA to have to scroll down
through tons of quoted info to find your response. I already know what's
been going on, and I want to know YOUR response, and not have to drill down
through what I've already read.

If I'm new to the thread, I'll be happy to dig a bit more.

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#2: Re: Request for the group...

Posted on 2006-07-21 04:04:03 by wendy7

Ray, Would you mean we should "Top Post"??

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Ray &lt;<a href="mailto:raybark&#64;firstrays.com" target="_blank">raybark&#64;firstrays.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; ...and maybe a bit anal, but...
&gt;
&gt; Please configure your newsgroup client to add your response ABOVE the
&gt; quoted message.
&gt;
&gt; When I have been following a thread, it's a PITA to have to scroll
&gt; down through tons of quoted info to find your response. I already
&gt; know what's been going on, and I want to know YOUR response, and not
&gt; have to drill down through what I've already read.
&gt;
&gt; If I'm new to the thread, I'll be happy to dig a bit more.

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#3: Re: Request for the group...

Posted on 2006-07-21 04:40:21 by pakrat

On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 21:35:16 -0400 in &lt;<a href="mailto:J9-dnREpMMHEsl3ZnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d&#64;comcast.com" target="_blank">J9-dnREpMMHEsl3ZnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d&#64;comcast.com</a>&gt; Ray &lt;<a href="mailto:raybark&#64;firstrays.com" target="_blank">raybark&#64;firstrays.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; ...and maybe a bit anal, but...
&gt;
&gt; Please configure your newsgroup client to add your response ABOVE the quoted
&gt; message.

Alas, that runs counter to the &quot;netiquette&quot; RFC.
If top posting is the preferred method, it should have been
in or added to the charter referenced at newsgroup creation.
On the other hand...

[Complaint Sneeped]
&gt;
&gt; If I'm new to the thread, I'll be happy to dig a bit more.
Well if folks would trim, which is also suggested in the RFC,
it wouldn't be as onerous.
Better newsreaders also tend to have keystrokes to jump
past quoted text.

To be fair, I haven't been anal enough to find the newgroup message
nor see if there is a related charter.
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#4: Re: Request for the group...

Posted on 2006-07-21 04:42:40 by pakrat

On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 19:04:03 -0700 in &lt;yCWvg.112070$<a href="mailto:TK1.44208&#64;fed1read06" target="_blank">TK1.44208&#64;fed1read06</a>&gt; wendy7 &lt;<a href="mailto:nospam&#64;this.com" target="_blank">nospam&#64;this.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; Ray, Would you mean we should &quot;Top Post&quot;??
&gt;

You know,
top posting works out pretty good when the magic
signature delimiter comes before the quoted material.


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#5: Re: Request for the group...

Posted on 2006-07-21 05:58:03 by K Barrett

Yeah, I know its not nettiquette, and I've been reamed for top posting on
other newsgroups, but sheesh. I like top posting for the same reasons why
Ray does. I know what you've said and am looking for your response. But
then, I have no life and the newsgroup is my entire world, so I remember
what goes on here. If I had a life, with people and friends, I may not
remember what anyone said due to real life's interference. So I could
understand why some folks might like to be reminded of what other people
said by scrolling past previous comments and then post my comment to the
end.

Perhaps its more healthy to be a bottom poster. At the very least it would
indicate that you have a life, or can at least pretend you do, or maybe that
you can move away from the computer for enough connected hours in a period
of time to forget what goes on here.

Who the posting cop should be I have no idea. Just don't let it be Mick..
He already is the picture police.

I think Wendy should be top post cop. Wendy would rule with a polite, light
hand.

Yeah, that's the ticket!

K Barrett

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&gt; Ray, Would you mean we should &quot;Top Post&quot;??
&gt;
&gt; --
&gt; Cheers Wendy
&gt;
&gt; No Spam Email Address Invalid
&gt;
&gt; Ray &lt;<a href="mailto:raybark&#64;firstrays.com" target="_blank">raybark&#64;firstrays.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt; ...and maybe a bit anal, but...
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Please configure your newsgroup client to add your response ABOVE the
&gt;&gt; quoted message.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; When I have been following a thread, it's a PITA to have to scroll
&gt;&gt; down through tons of quoted info to find your response. I already
&gt;&gt; know what's been going on, and I want to know YOUR response, and not
&gt;&gt; have to drill down through what I've already read.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; If I'm new to the thread, I'll be happy to dig a bit more.
&gt;
&gt;

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#6: Re: Request for the group...

Posted on 2006-07-21 06:05:11 by Mick Fournier

Kathy,

I have always top posted. I didn't know bottom posting was a problem here.
I don't read bottom posters so I wouldn't even know they were here spreading
their disgusting filthy drivel on RGO. So you see, I wouldn't even be able
to catch them to reprimand their errant misguided ancient ways.

Mick

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&gt; Yeah, I know its not nettiquette, and I've been reamed for top posting on
&gt; other newsgroups, but sheesh. I like top posting for the same reasons why
&gt; Ray does. I know what you've said and am looking for your response. But
&gt; then, I have no life and the newsgroup is my entire world, so I remember
&gt; what goes on here. If I had a life, with people and friends, I may not
&gt; remember what anyone said due to real life's interference. So I could
&gt; understand why some folks might like to be reminded of what other people
&gt; said by scrolling past previous comments and then post my comment to the
&gt; end.
&gt;
&gt; Perhaps its more healthy to be a bottom poster. At the very least it
&gt; would indicate that you have a life, or can at least pretend you do, or
&gt; maybe that you can move away from the computer for enough connected hours
&gt; in a period of time to forget what goes on here.
&gt;
&gt; Who the posting cop should be I have no idea. Just don't let it be Mick..
&gt; He already is the picture police.
&gt;
&gt; I think Wendy should be top post cop. Wendy would rule with a polite,
&gt; light hand.
&gt;
&gt; Yeah, that's the ticket!
&gt;
&gt; K Barrett
&gt;
&gt; &quot;wendy7&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:nospam&#64;this.com" target="_blank">nospam&#64;this.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt; news:yCWvg.112070$<a href="mailto:TK1.44208&#64;fed1read06..." target="_blank">TK1.44208&#64;fed1read06...</a>
&gt;&gt; Ray, Would you mean we should &quot;Top Post&quot;??
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; --
&gt;&gt; Cheers Wendy
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; No Spam Email Address Invalid
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Ray &lt;<a href="mailto:raybark&#64;firstrays.com" target="_blank">raybark&#64;firstrays.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt; ...and maybe a bit anal, but...
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Please configure your newsgroup client to add your response ABOVE the
&gt;&gt;&gt; quoted message.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; When I have been following a thread, it's a PITA to have to scroll
&gt;&gt;&gt; down through tons of quoted info to find your response. I already
&gt;&gt;&gt; know what's been going on, and I want to know YOUR response, and not
&gt;&gt;&gt; have to drill down through what I've already read.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; If I'm new to the thread, I'll be happy to dig a bit more.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;

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#7: Re: Request for the group...

Posted on 2006-07-21 06:13:29 by Steve

Ray,
I'm with you as far as finding it much easier when the new message is at
the top. However, I've visited other newsgroups, usually briefly when I
needed to find something out. I've seen posters seriously flamed for top
posting. I've been a little leery of top posting since seeing how angry
it makes some people.
Here, in RGO and in the other orchid and gardening groups I read all the
time, I might do either. If I'm 3rd or 4th in line, I'll certainly
follow the trend in that thread. In other words, if a reply has already
been added to the bottom, my post will be below that one.
Oh, one other thing. I'm big on quoting the one part that I have a
comment about and snipping out all other parts. It shows what my comment
relates to and nothing else. I've seen people flamed for doing that too
and I find it hard to understand why.

Steve



Ray wrote:

&gt; ...and maybe a bit anal, but...
&gt;
&gt; Please configure your newsgroup client to add your response ABOVE the quoted
&gt; message.
&gt;
&gt; When I have been following a thread, it's a PITA to have to scroll down
&gt; through tons of quoted info to find your response. I already know what's
&gt; been going on, and I want to know YOUR response, and not have to drill down
&gt; through what I've already read.
&gt;
&gt; If I'm new to the thread, I'll be happy to dig a bit more.
&gt;

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#8: Re: Request for the group...

Posted on 2006-07-21 09:08:02 by Mick Fournier

Diana,

Have another contest, that's the solution... BTW, the cookies were yummy.

Mick

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&gt; &quot;To which you wish to reply&quot;........What a mess that was!
&gt;
&gt; Diana
&gt;

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#9: Re: Request for the group...

Posted on 2006-07-21 11:32:58 by Ray

Top-posting is bad??? I've never heard that bit of &quot;netiquette&quot;, but then
again, here and abpo are the only groups I frequent.

If we're stuck with that, may I modify my request and suggest that folk take
a second and remove the 3rd- through 99th generations of quoted messages
before they post? It is a waste of time to scroll through 3 pages of quotes
to end up finding the gem of &quot;I guess you're right, Fred. I'll try that.&quot;
or &quot;Good one&quot;, so I end up NOT reading those messages at all, and probably
miss some good stuff.

Oh well. My bad. I guess I'll have to live with it...

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#10: Re: Request for the group...

Posted on 2006-07-21 14:57:03 by Rob

Ray wrote:
&gt; Top-posting is bad??? I've never heard that bit of &quot;netiquette&quot;, but then
&gt; again, here and abpo are the only groups I frequent.
&gt;
&gt; If we're stuck with that, may I modify my request and suggest that folk take
&gt; a second and remove the 3rd- through 99th generations of quoted messages
&gt; before they post? It is a waste of time to scroll through 3 pages of quotes
&gt; to end up finding the gem of &quot;I guess you're right, Fred. I'll try that.&quot;
&gt; or &quot;Good one&quot;, so I end up NOT reading those messages at all, and probably
&gt; miss some good stuff.
&gt;

I always (almost always) post after the quoted message. I don't know
why, but I suspect I've been doing it for 15 years or so... I don't
think I have the mental agility to change now. Of course I always trim
as much as possible from the original message.

I too do not read messages that are a mess of quotations within
quotations. No time or patience for that. *grin*

Rob

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1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a) See rule 1
3) When one has insufficient credit to obtain more
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#11: Re: Request for the group...

Posted on 2006-07-21 15:31:25 by Steve

Rob wrote:
&gt;........
&gt; .........
&gt; I too do not read messages that are a mess of quotations within
&gt; quotations. No time or patience for that. *grin*
&gt;
&gt; Rob


That reminds me of another little pet peeve. I sometimes I look at a
post with layers of quoted posts and I actually can't find where the
sender added anything. Sometimes I swear they forgot to write anything
but usually it's because they didn't bother to tap the enter key once or
twice to make a little space between the quote and what they wrote.

Steve

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#12: Re: Request for the group...

Posted on 2006-07-21 16:29:48 by wendy7

Thanks, but no thanks Kathy!
I have always top posted &amp; probably always will as I like to keep things simple.

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K Barrett &lt;<a href="mailto:mormodes&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">mormodes&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; Yeah, I know its not nettiquette, and I've been reamed for top
&gt; posting on other newsgroups, but sheesh. I like top posting for the
&gt; same reasons why Ray does. I know what you've said and am looking
&gt; for your response. But then, I have no life and the newsgroup is my
&gt; entire world, so I remember what goes on here. If I had a life, with
&gt; people and friends, I may not remember what anyone said due to real
&gt; life's interference. So I could understand why some folks might like
&gt; to be reminded of what other people said by scrolling past previous
&gt; comments and then post my comment to the end.
&gt;
&gt; Perhaps its more healthy to be a bottom poster. At the very least it
&gt; would indicate that you have a life, or can at least pretend you do,
&gt; or maybe that you can move away from the computer for enough
&gt; connected hours in a period of time to forget what goes on here.
&gt;
&gt; Who the posting cop should be I have no idea. Just don't let it be
&gt; Mick.. He already is the picture police.
&gt;
&gt; I think Wendy should be top post cop. Wendy would rule with a
&gt; polite, light hand.
&gt;
&gt; Yeah, that's the ticket!
&gt;
&gt; K Barrett
&gt;

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#13: Re: Request for the group...

Posted on 2006-07-21 16:37:42 by pakrat

On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 05:32:58 -0400 in &lt;<a href="mailto:rvCdnRlC0OIeAl3ZnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d&#64;comcast.com" target="_blank">rvCdnRlC0OIeAl3ZnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d&#64;comcast.com</a>&gt; Ray &lt;<a href="mailto:raybark&#64;firstrays.com" target="_blank">raybark&#64;firstrays.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; Top-posting is bad??? I've never heard that bit of &quot;netiquette&quot;, but then
&gt; again, here and abpo are the only groups I frequent.

By default top-posting is bad unless there is something existing counter
to it.
Reasonable back when USENET was largely UUCP transported,
lower traffic, and less reliable.
&gt;
&gt; If we're stuck with that, may I modify my request and suggest that folk take
&gt; a second and remove the 3rd- through 99th generations of quoted messages
&gt; before they post? It is a waste of time to scroll through 3 pages of quotes

People are lazy selfish critters that can't be arsed to trim
which is the OTHER part of the RFC.
(Which is requisite when traffic is going over slow modem
links going frequently via long distance telephone).

&gt; Oh well. My bad. I guess I'll have to live with it...

Take to flaming and complaining to the ISP of folks that
don't trim :-).
&gt;


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#14: Re: Request for the group...

Posted on 2006-07-21 16:59:57 by Susan Erickson

On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 08:57:03 -0400, Rob &lt;<a href="mailto:rob&#64;littlefrogfarm.com" target="_blank">rob&#64;littlefrogfarm.com</a>&gt;
wrote:

&gt;I always (almost always) post after the quoted message. I don't know
&gt;why, but I suspect I've been doing it for 15 years or so... I don't
&gt;think I have the mental agility to change now. Of course I always trim
&gt;as much as possible from the original message.
&gt;
&gt;I too do not read messages that are a mess of quotations within
&gt;quotations. No time or patience for that. *grin*
&gt;
&gt;Rob

&gt; Rob's Rules: <a href="http://littlefrogfarm.com" target="_blank">http://littlefrogfarm.com</a>
&gt; 1) There is always room for one more orchid
&gt; 2) There is always room for two more orchids
&gt; 2a) See rule 1
&gt; 3) When one has insufficient credit to obtain more
&gt; orchids, obtain more credit


And Here I thought you did it because the rules were in a &quot;sig block&quot;
and would post at the bottom. That is why I don't top post.
I like to see my 'Sig Block' below my comment.
SuE
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#15: Re: Request for the group...

Posted on 2006-07-21 17:57:46 by JoeRex99z

Testing
Joe T

Ray wrote:
&gt; ...and maybe a bit anal, but...
&gt;
&gt; Please configure your newsgroup client to add your response ABOVE the quoted
&gt; message.
&gt;
&gt; When I have been following a thread, it's a PITA to have to scroll down
&gt; through tons of quoted info to find your response. I already know what's
&gt; been going on, and I want to know YOUR response, and not have to drill down
&gt; through what I've already read.
&gt;
&gt; If I'm new to the thread, I'll be happy to dig a bit more.
&gt;
&gt; --
&gt;
&gt; Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
&gt; Plants, Supplies, Artwork, Books and Lots of Free Info!

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#16: Re: Request for the group...

Posted on 2006-07-21 18:03:53 by JoeRex99z

Test
Joe T
Ray wrote:
&gt; ...and maybe a bit anal, but...
&gt;
&gt; Please configure your newsgroup client to add your response ABOVE the quoted
&gt; message.
&gt;
&gt; When I have been following a thread, it's a PITA to have to scroll down
&gt; through tons of quoted info to find your response. I already know what's
&gt; been going on, and I want to know YOUR response, and not have to drill down
&gt; through what I've already read.
&gt;
&gt; If I'm new to the thread, I'll be happy to dig a bit more.
&gt;
&gt; --
&gt;
&gt; Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
&gt; Plants, Supplies, Artwork, Books and Lots of Free Info!

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#17: Re: Request for the group...

Posted on 2006-07-21 18:37:08 by JoeRex99z

Joe T wrote:
&gt; Test
&gt; Joe T
&gt; Ray wrote:
&gt; &gt; ...and maybe a bit anal, but...
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Please configure your newsgroup client to add your response ABOVE the quoted
&gt; &gt; message.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; When I have been following a thread, it's a PITA to have to scroll down
&gt; &gt; through tons of quoted info to find your response. I already know what's
&gt; &gt; been going on, and I want to know YOUR response, and not have to drill down
&gt; &gt; through what I've already read.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; If I'm new to the thread, I'll be happy to dig a bit more.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; --
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
&gt; &gt; Plants, Supplies, Artwork, Books and Lots of Free Info!

Quoted from GOOGLE Help

&quot;How can I automatically quote the previous message when I post a
reply?

If you are replying to a post in a Usenet newsgroup, both the &quot;Reply&quot;
link at the bottom of the post and the one under &quot;show options&quot; at the
top of the post will quote the full text of the previous message in the
composition window.

If you are replying to a post in a Google Group, you can select either
the &quot;Reply with quote&quot; link at the bottom of the post or the &quot;Reply&quot;
link under &quot;show options&quot; at the top of the post. The full text of the
previous message is included in the composition box and marked with
angle brackets (&gt;) at the start of each line. You can place your
comments between lines of the quote or simply add your thoughts at the
bottom.&quot;

Clear as mud (not Aussie Gold&quot;) right. I come here through a GOOGLE
group, do not all of you? Maybe not. I don't know what you are seeing
when I post but I see my comment plus &quot;-see quoted text-&quot;. Seldom do I
post the text I am replying to unless it seems needed. At least I think
I do that ;-)). I am not a great reader of instructions.For instance, I
seldom Preview my posts, hell I just wrote it! So it goes.

Ray thanks for bringing up this topic, many may be hacked about it and
reluctant to speak.

Joe T

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#18: Re: Request for the group...

Posted on 2006-07-21 19:56:56 by Duncan V

Even better don't quote at all. Or at least edit the quote to the relevent
parts. Dont need to reread the same post 20 times in a thread.

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#19: Re: Request for the group...

Posted on 2006-07-21 20:48:35 by Diana Kulaga

I'm with Ray. If you are looking at a long post with several facets and it
contains one thing to which you wish to reply, then fine, reference just
that section of the post and delete the rest. Lately it has become very
unwieldy around here.

So:

&quot;&gt;Where do I cut the spike on my Phal?&lt;

Cut it at the third node from the bottom and pray.&quot;

That should be okay, but sometimes I, like some other responders in this
thread, can't find (or just give up trying) the latest response.

For personal emails, where I can change fonts to make things clearer, I will
sometimes respond in pieces to several items in the original. For example, a
couple of years ago I was doing some long distance counseling re: a
complicated relationship. There were multiple subjects within each email,
and they were all important. In order not to blur the advice, I addressed
each point separately, referencing each one. But here, there's no reason to
keep all the &quot;X wrote&quot;, &quot;Y wrote&quot;, etc.

Joe, I don't know about Google groups, but in Outlook Express I can cut,
paste, delete and insert to my heart's content.

Diana

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#20: Re: Request for the group...

Posted on 2006-07-21 21:04:40 by Diana Kulaga

&quot;To which you wish to reply&quot;........What a mess that was!

Diana

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#21: Re: Request for the group...

Posted on 2006-07-21 23:35:09 by jankey

Ray wrote:
&gt; ...and maybe a bit anal, but...
&gt;
&gt; Please configure your newsgroup client to add your response ABOVE the quoted
&gt; message.
&gt;
&gt;

you can configure the newsgroup that way? wow....... :o (really. i
didn't know that.)

but yeah, top posting will get you fried in some places. so will
bottom posting. so will posting at all. :)

i agree, trimming is best.

--j_a

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#22: Re: Request for the group...

Posted on 2006-07-22 01:52:10 by K Barrett

There ya go. The mystery group I read reams me from one orifice to another
about top posting. They hate it. They endlessly quote &quot;nettiquette&quot; to me
ad nauseum. (Like I care.) Perhaps they have frontal lobes the size of
Rhode Island (speaking in terms of geography)

K

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&gt; Kathy,
&gt;
&gt; I have always top posted. I didn't know bottom posting was a problem
&gt; here. I don't read bottom posters so I wouldn't even know they were here
&gt; spreading their disgusting filthy drivel on RGO. So you see, I wouldn't
&gt; even be able to catch them to reprimand their errant misguided ancient
&gt; ways.
&gt;
&gt; Mick
&gt;
&gt; ========================
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; &quot;K Barrett&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:mormodes&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">mormodes&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt;&gt; Yeah, I know its not nettiquette, and I've been reamed for top posting on
&gt;&gt; other newsgroups, but sheesh. I like top posting for the same reasons
&gt;&gt; why Ray does. I know what you've said and am looking for your response.
&gt;&gt; But then, I have no life and the newsgroup is my entire world, so I
&gt;&gt; remember what goes on here. If I had a life, with people and friends, I
&gt;&gt; may not remember what anyone said due to real life's interference. So I
&gt;&gt; could understand why some folks might like to be reminded of what other
&gt;&gt; people said by scrolling past previous comments and then post my comment
&gt;&gt; to the end.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Perhaps its more healthy to be a bottom poster. At the very least it
&gt;&gt; would indicate that you have a life, or can at least pretend you do, or
&gt;&gt; maybe that you can move away from the computer for enough connected hours
&gt;&gt; in a period of time to forget what goes on here.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Who the posting cop should be I have no idea. Just don't let it be
&gt;&gt; Mick.. He already is the picture police.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; I think Wendy should be top post cop. Wendy would rule with a polite,
&gt;&gt; light hand.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Yeah, that's the ticket!
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; K Barrett
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &quot;wendy7&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:nospam&#64;this.com" target="_blank">nospam&#64;this.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt;&gt; news:yCWvg.112070$<a href="mailto:TK1.44208&#64;fed1read06..." target="_blank">TK1.44208&#64;fed1read06...</a>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Ray, Would you mean we should &quot;Top Post&quot;??
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; --
&gt;&gt;&gt; Cheers Wendy
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; No Spam Email Address Invalid
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Ray &lt;<a href="mailto:raybark&#64;firstrays.com" target="_blank">raybark&#64;firstrays.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ...and maybe a bit anal, but...
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Please configure your newsgroup client to add your response ABOVE the
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; quoted message.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; When I have been following a thread, it's a PITA to have to scroll
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; down through tons of quoted info to find your response. I already
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; know what's been going on, and I want to know YOUR response, and not
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; have to drill down through what I've already read.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; If I'm new to the thread, I'll be happy to dig a bit more.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;

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#23: Re: Request for the group...

Posted on 2006-07-22 01:56:59 by K Barrett

&quot;Rob&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rob&#64;littlefrogfarm.com" target="_blank">rob&#64;littlefrogfarm.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
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[snip]&gt; I always (almost always) post after the quoted message. I don't
know
&gt; why, but I suspect I've been doing it for 15 years or so... [snip]&gt; Rob
&gt;
&gt; --
&gt; Rob's Rules: <a href="http://littlefrogfarm.com" target="_blank">http://littlefrogfarm.com</a>
&gt; 1) There is always room for one more orchid
&gt; 2) There is always room for two more orchids
&gt; 2a) See rule 1
&gt; 3) When one has insufficient credit to obtain more
&gt; orchids, obtain more credit
&gt;

I always thought it was so your sig file would show, LOL!!

K

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#24: Re: Request for the group...

Posted on 2006-07-22 01:58:21 by K Barrett

&quot;Ray&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:raybark&#64;firstrays.com" target="_blank">raybark&#64;firstrays.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt; Top-posting is bad??? I've never heard that bit of &quot;netiquette&quot;, but
&gt; then again, here and abpo are the only groups I frequent.
&gt; [snip]

Ah! You child! You should read rec.arts.marijuana and *really* meet some
paranoid types!!

K Barrett

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#25: Re: Request for the group...

Posted on 2006-07-22 03:40:30 by Mick Fournier

Kathy,

A Mozilla Firefox help-newsgroup really got on my case about top posting a
few months back. According to them I was the devil destroying their
newsgroup. Naively I thought everyone has top posted since 2002. It took
me a few letters to even figure out what they were bitching about. But once
I figured it out, I left the newsgroup immediately never to return like the
picture-posters should do on RGO.

I once had a girlfriend from Rhode Island. She had some real nice frontal
lobes... if you know what I mean.

Mick

========================


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&gt; There ya go. The mystery group I read reams me from one orifice to
&gt; another about top posting. They hate it. They endlessly quote
&gt; &quot;nettiquette&quot; to me ad nauseum. (Like I care.) Perhaps they have frontal
&gt; lobes the size of Rhode Island (speaking in terms of geography)
&gt;
&gt; K
&gt;
&gt; &quot;Mick Fournier&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:www.orchidflask.com&#64;removethis.net" target="_blank">www.orchidflask.com&#64;removethis.net</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt;&gt; Kathy,
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; I have always top posted. I didn't know bottom posting was a problem
&gt;&gt; here. I don't read bottom posters so I wouldn't even know they were here
&gt;&gt; spreading their disgusting filthy drivel on RGO. So you see, I wouldn't
&gt;&gt; even be able to catch them to reprimand their errant misguided ancient
&gt;&gt; ways.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Mick
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; ========================
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &quot;K Barrett&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:mormodes&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">mormodes&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt;&gt; news:<a href="mailto:KNydnWpqZ7xZzV3ZnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d&#64;comcast.com..." target="_blank">KNydnWpqZ7xZzV3ZnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d&#64;comcast.com...</a>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Yeah, I know its not nettiquette, and I've been reamed for top posting
&gt;&gt;&gt; on other newsgroups, but sheesh. I like top posting for the same
&gt;&gt;&gt; reasons why Ray does. I know what you've said and am looking for your
&gt;&gt;&gt; response. But then, I have no life and the newsgroup is my entire world,
&gt;&gt;&gt; so I remember what goes on here. If I had a life, with people and
&gt;&gt;&gt; friends, I may not remember what anyone said due to real life's
&gt;&gt;&gt; interference. So I could understand why some folks might like to be
&gt;&gt;&gt; reminded of what other people said by scrolling past previous comments
&gt;&gt;&gt; and then post my comment to the end.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Perhaps its more healthy to be a bottom poster. At the very least it
&gt;&gt;&gt; would indicate that you have a life, or can at least pretend you do, or
&gt;&gt;&gt; maybe that you can move away from the computer for enough connected
&gt;&gt;&gt; hours in a period of time to forget what goes on here.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Who the posting cop should be I have no idea. Just don't let it be
&gt;&gt;&gt; Mick.. He already is the picture police.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; I think Wendy should be top post cop. Wendy would rule with a polite,
&gt;&gt;&gt; light hand.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Yeah, that's the ticket!
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; K Barrett
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; &quot;wendy7&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:nospam&#64;this.com" target="_blank">nospam&#64;this.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt;&gt;&gt; news:yCWvg.112070$<a href="mailto:TK1.44208&#64;fed1read06..." target="_blank">TK1.44208&#64;fed1read06...</a>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Ray, Would you mean we should &quot;Top Post&quot;??
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; --
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Cheers Wendy
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; No Spam Email Address Invalid
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Ray &lt;<a href="mailto:raybark&#64;firstrays.com" target="_blank">raybark&#64;firstrays.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ...and maybe a bit anal, but...
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Please configure your newsgroup client to add your response ABOVE the
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; quoted message.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; When I have been following a thread, it's a PITA to have to scroll
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; down through tons of quoted info to find your response. I already
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; know what's been going on, and I want to know YOUR response, and not
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; have to drill down through what I've already read.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; If I'm new to the thread, I'll be happy to dig a bit more.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;

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#26: Re: Request for the group...

Posted on 2006-07-22 04:00:15 by pakrat

On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 00:05:11 -0400 in &lt;KVcwg.16074$<a href="mailto:ZH1.1884&#64;bignews4.bellsouth.net" target="_blank">ZH1.1884&#64;bignews4.bellsouth.net</a>&gt; Mick Fournier &lt;<a href="mailto:www.orchidflask.com&#64;removethis.net" target="_blank">www.orchidflask.com&#64;removethis.net</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; Kathy,
&gt;
&gt; I have always top posted. I didn't know bottom posting was a problem here.
&gt; I don't read bottom posters so I wouldn't even know they were here spreading
&gt; their disgusting filthy drivel on RGO. So you see, I wouldn't even be able
&gt; to catch them to reprimand their errant misguided ancient ways.

You mean if we bottom post, you won't notice if we slip in
a picture?

--
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&quot;The key to effective management is properly timed hovering.&quot;

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#27: Re: Request for the group...

Posted on 2006-07-22 11:12:28 by Dave Gillingham

Like Pamela Anderson? ;-)

On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 16:52:10 -0700, &quot;K Barrett&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:mormodes&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">mormodes&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:

Perhaps they have frontal lobes the size of
&gt;Rhode Island (speaking in terms of geography)
&gt;
&gt;K
Dave Gillingham
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#28: Re: Request for the group...

Posted on 2006-07-22 14:06:39 by Ray

Oh. Is she from Rhode Island?

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&gt; Like Pamela Anderson? ;-)
&gt;
&gt; On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 16:52:10 -0700, &quot;K Barrett&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:mormodes&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">mormodes&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt;
&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt; Perhaps they have frontal lobes the size of
&gt;&gt;Rhode Island (speaking in terms of geography)
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;K
&gt; Dave Gillingham
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#29: Re: Request for the group...

Posted on 2006-07-22 16:14:01 by K Barrett

More like Twiggy...

K Barrett

&quot;Dave Gillingham&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:dewg&#64;private.optusnet.com.au" target="_blank">dewg&#64;private.optusnet.com.au</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt; Like Pamela Anderson? ;-)
&gt;
&gt; On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 16:52:10 -0700, &quot;K Barrett&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:mormodes&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">mormodes&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt;
&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt; Perhaps they have frontal lobes the size of
&gt;&gt;Rhode Island (speaking in terms of geography)
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;K
&gt; Dave Gillingham
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#30: Re: Request for the group...

Posted on 2006-07-22 17:15:33 by Mick Fournier

Chris,

I never miss a picture. I am picture perfect.

Mick


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&gt; On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 00:05:11 -0400 in
&gt; &lt;KVcwg.16074$<a href="mailto:ZH1.1884&#64;bignews4.bellsouth.net" target="_blank">ZH1.1884&#64;bignews4.bellsouth.net</a>&gt; Mick Fournier
&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:www.orchidflask.com&#64;removethis.net" target="_blank">www.orchidflask.com&#64;removethis.net</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt; You mean if we bottom post, you won't notice if we slip in
&gt; a picture?
&gt;
&gt; --
&gt; Chris Dukes
&gt; &quot;The key to effective management is properly timed hovering.&quot;

&gt;&gt; Kathy,
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; I have always top posted. I didn't know bottom posting was a problem
&gt;&gt; here.
&gt;&gt; I don't read bottom posters so I wouldn't even know they were here
&gt;&gt; spreading
&gt;&gt; their disgusting filthy drivel on RGO. So you see, I wouldn't even be
&gt;&gt; able
&gt;&gt; to catch them to reprimand their errant misguided ancient ways.

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